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hat and beard 03.25.2007 05:54 PM

Meh, I like what I like。'Nuff said. Fortunately I don't have an understanding of art and music to get in the way of my enjoyment of it (music that is).

Glice 03.27.2007 01:20 PM

Hmm. So I got Nine for Victor at the weekend... and it's perhaps not the best of theirs. Which is a shame. Of course, personal opinion and all that jazz... but yes. The Kazuo Imai record I got, meanwhile, is awesomeness beyond belief. Still, I might grow to love the new NNCK and it can sit proudly with the other releases I have of theirs. Or something.

hat and beard 04.06.2007 04:55 PM

Oh wow wow wow. NNCK DVD!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=20165 51174
WOW!

Anyone know any more about this?

From Adam Mortimer website: THE NO NECK BLUES BAND: AT 6AM WE BECOME THE POLICE
DVD retrospective of 10 years of performances and videos from the NYC avant guarde band

fugazifan 04.06.2007 07:24 PM

as i already stated in another thread, i bought the NNCK and Embryo album today. fucking great. this band is one of my favorite musical discoveries as of late, so thank you guys...
too bad i probably bought the only official NNCk cd in the country, that means ill have to order from the states...

Iain 04.06.2007 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat and beard
Oh wow wow wow. NNCK DVD!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=20165 51174
WOW!

Anyone know any more about this?

From Adam Mortimer website: THE NO NECK BLUES BAND: AT 6AM WE BECOME THE POLICE
DVD retrospective of 10 years of performances and videos from the NYC avant guarde band


Hooray! I think news about this was posted here at the end of last year. Really looknig forward to it.

Also, the music clips on the myspace suggest that there might be new recordings perhaps....maybe...hope so.

Glice 04.07.2007 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Hmm. So I got Nine for Victor at the weekend... and it's perhaps not the best of theirs. Which is a shame. Of course, personal opinion and all that jazz... but yes. The Kazuo Imai record I got, meanwhile, is awesomeness beyond belief. Still, I might grow to love the new NNCK and it can sit proudly with the other releases I have of theirs. Or something.


I was being hasty. Well done me for being hasty. And wrong. It's actually very, very good. Again. Bastards.

DVD news has got me hard. Diamond-cutter hard.

Bunbury 04.07.2007 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat and beard
Oh wow wow wow. NNCK DVD!
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=20165 51174
WOW!

Anyone know any more about this?

From Adam Mortimer website: THE NO NECK BLUES BAND: AT 6AM WE BECOME THE POLICE
DVD retrospective of 10 years of performances and videos from the NYC avant guarde band


at 6 am we become the police.

awesome news, thanks!

pokkeherrie 04.08.2007 05:38 PM

That DVD does appear to be really neat.

Speaking of DVDs, does anyone know what the relation is between Vizusa and NNCK? Since they're selling a Vizusa DVD-R at the NNCK site at the moment...

edit: oh google, is there anything you don't know? seems that vizusa consists of ex-members of excepter, a band that had ex-members of nnck.

noumenal 04.09.2007 12:42 PM

I downloaded Qvaris a few weeks ago. I've been listening to it and I don't get what the big deal is. Pleasant sounds, but I have a hard time maintaining interest. I've been doing very close passive listening. I don't believe this music can be listened to actively. I have formal problems with it. It's organic, but meanders. I'm sceptical. Also, where's the Grundgestalt in the tunes? Sometimes I think that instead of saying something musical, they're saying something emotive, and that's a degradation in communication. That is, there's no reference, except for some odd, primal, sensationalism.

Convert me.

!@#$%! 04.09.2007 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by noumenal
Convert me.


would you like to sell flowers in airports? how about door too door fundraising as a "missionary"?

noumenal 04.09.2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
would you like to sell flowers in airports? how about door too door fundraising as a "missionary"?


hahaha If you've got the pamphlets, I've got the time. I'm a poor salesman, though.


 


"Have your heard of NNCK, Madame? No? Do you have a stereo and 20 minutes?"

Iain 04.09.2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noumenal
Sometimes I think that instead of saying something musical, they're saying something emotive, and that's a degradation in communication


God, your not one of these people who idolises Frank Zappa and says stuff like "oh he's making all these musical references, he's so witty". I know your sort!

fugazifan 04.09.2007 04:38 PM

whats wrong with frank zappa?

noumenal 04.09.2007 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain
God, your not one of these people who idolises Frank Zappa and says stuff like "oh he's making all these musical references, he's so witty". I know your sort!


No, you've misinterpreted what I was saying. I meant self-referential. Not referencing some outside thing like the Dies Irae or some shit. Zappa is OK - not a huge fan.

Glice 04.09.2007 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noumenal
I downloaded Qvaris a few weeks ago. I've been listening to it and I don't get what the big deal is. Pleasant sounds, but I have a hard time maintaining interest. I've been doing very close passive listening. I don't believe this music can be listened to actively. I have formal problems with it. It's organic, but meanders. I'm sceptical. Also, where's the Grundgestalt in the tunes? Sometimes I think that instead of saying something musical, they're saying something emotive, and that's a degradation in communication. That is, there's no reference, except for some odd, primal, sensationalism.

Convert me.


Qvaris probably wouldn't flip your switches. It is a bit meandering. I was completely sold by the time that record came out, but I might not have been so convinced if it was the only one I heard. Personally, Letters from the Earth is my favourite - they manage to pull that trick of improvising something that couldn't be composed without being a 'jam band'. I'm not saying it couldn't be composed, more that it wouldn't be composed. There's a lot of playing on the precipice of improvisational collapse... and it's that which interests me most about them, especially on LFTE, that they sound like an improv band sounds like when they're just about to lose grip on whatever 'groove' they had... except they often don't have the groove in the first place. There's also a lot of sounding like sections of the band are fighting against another section... there's a track on Nine for Victor where this Cello meanders forever with some twiddling otherwise... and then it suddenly finds the tonic and the rest of the twiddling falls into place.

I could probably say something a little less wishy-washy, but it's been an epic weekend.

demonrail666 04.09.2007 07:03 PM

NNCK have more in common with the sixties notion of the happening than anything more conventionally known as rock (or even improv). In that sense, the bands I liken them to most are the Velvets (in their live capacity), very early Amon Duul and, to a certain degree, Hawkwind.

NNCK are therefore important not just on a purely musical level but for tapping into an almost entirely lost tradition of more communal creative activity. The fact that they're one of my favourite 'bands' at the moment probably has a lot more to do with that, than anything found directly on the CDs themselves.

dnorsen 04.10.2007 11:33 AM

there is a longer blurb of the dvd here on adam's site: http://www.adammortimer.com/reel09.htm

hat and beard 04.10.2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dnorsen
there is a longer blurb of the dvd here on adam's site: http://www.adammortimer.com/reel09.htm


I'm sold!

Glice 04.10.2007 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Epic weekends or not, and I don't think you have that much to say on the matter, NNCk come more from the NYC tradition of playing on rooftops, something that is totally antagonistic to most musicians on here. A bit of a hippy idea, in its collective execution at least, and it still generates acceptably abstract music. I don't really understand why noumenal's ass gets kissed so much, when he severely lacks knowledge in many a strain of making music. Case closed, as far as I'm concerned.


Meh. I sympathise with your way of appreciating music, I sympathise with his. Quelle probleme?

tesla69 04.10.2007 04:33 PM

In case anyone cares I confirmed with Dave Nuss that there will NOT be an Orthodox Easter gig in the park this year 2007 - they're taking a break this year...

jon boy 04.11.2007 03:50 AM

qvaris was good but sticks and stones was better. well it was the first one i heard so...

something 04.11.2007 04:05 AM

what made you god was it yr ability to walk on water?

something 04.11.2007 04:11 AM

oh yea and yea the greatest band in the world theyre called SONIC YOUTH in case you didnt notice

jon boy 04.11.2007 04:18 AM

sy are definatley not the greatest band in the world.

she is god because she can walk on water and read peoples minds. also a good personal shopper.

something 04.11.2007 04:38 AM

sy are the greatest band in the world they are like miles davis meeting mudhoney while taking acid with kurt cobain whilst sorting coke with keith richards will driving a car for televison who crashes into cursive and mission of burma

jon boy 04.11.2007 04:39 AM

do you read the guardian?

SynthethicalY 04.11.2007 04:41 AM

Can we leave who is the greatest band, because that title is subjective to people's own ideas.

sonicl 04.11.2007 04:51 AM

It's called hyperbole.

I don't think that NNCK are the greatest band in the world, they irritated me hugely when I saw them (the same performance as many of the pro-NNCK posters on here), but I don't think that's the point of this thread.

something 04.11.2007 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
do you read the guardian?

NO I DONT ...I READ WHAT I WRITE AND I ENJOY IT ALTHOUGH IT IS SOME WHAT NEGATIVE

Toilet & Bowels 04.11.2007 07:59 AM

there's an arguement to be made for sonic youth being the best band in the world but it would be largely based on their past achievements and have little to do with anything they've done for the last 5 years.


anyway, my guess would be that guy reads the nme, not the guardian

pokkeherrie 04.11.2007 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnorsen
there is a longer blurb of the dvd here on adam's site: http://www.adammortimer.com/reel09.htm


Does anyone know who the saxophone guy in the trailer is? I remember that when I first saw NNCK about 3 years ago he played about 2-3 minutes before the start of their set and then left the stage. I haven't seen him play with them ever since and I've wondered a few times about who he was.


Anyway, for the record, I don't believe in a best band in the world.

Iain 04.11.2007 09:03 AM

No, I don't really believe in a best band in the world either but resorting to that sort of brash simplicity has lead to probably the most 'successful' of threads that I have started.

I think the sax guy might be Tamio Shiraishi. I think he's played with nnck before.

pokkeherrie 04.11.2007 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain
No, I don't really believe in a best band in the world either but resorting to that sort of brash simplicity has lead to probably the most 'successful' of threads that I have started.

I think the sax guy might be Tamio Shiraishi. I think he's played with nnck before.


I know what you meant, but a few people in this thread seem to fail to understand the figure of speech sonicl pointed out.

thanks for the info on the name; i know i should've just asked you before.

Savage Clone 04.11.2007 09:27 AM

Everything everybody says on here at all times is completely literal and one hundred percent serious. Always.

hat and beard 04.11.2007 01:15 PM

That is indeed Tamio Shiraishi in the video. He played alto sax on Letters from the Earth.

I assumed the 'best band in the world' thing was a reference to the famous Thurston Moore quote: "the greatest band ever in the history of the universe".

In reality they're the third greatest band in the history of the universe, but whateva.

Iain 04.11.2007 02:22 PM

Not directly, no. Fahey made a similar coment about them I think. Truly, I don't have an alltime favourite band let alone a current one really. It's always in flux baby.

Who are the top two greatest bands then?

sonicl 04.11.2007 02:30 PM

Surely The Fall is one of them?

hat and beard 04.11.2007 07:12 PM

Fushitsusha and the Sun Ra orchestra edge out NNCK.
But then again my No Neck obsession is relatively young compared to the other two. They may yet make the top spot.

I don't understand British enough to appreciate The Fall as much as I should, perhaps.

Toilet & Bowels 04.11.2007 08:16 PM

i rate the shadow ring over the fall, maybe.

jon boy 04.12.2007 03:52 AM

i like the sunburned hand of the man just over the nnck. today.


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