I laughed out loud. Fuck that's good.

And here I was thinking everybody wanted to be a singer like Lou Reed... Thanks for the mislead information Black Francis.

~Jeremy~

politics go so good with beer...

yea because i think the signature guitars should be super secret and only lou reed fans should pick it up. thats a good idea

any clue which issue of Filter magazine the zine will be included in? the whole thing should be going into the guitar/gear/tuning archive thingy i say!

i'll do my best! there may be some objection as it is a supplemental reward for purchasing a $1000+ guitar, but i'll definitely get as much of it incorporated as possible...

man, those axes look good!

okay, i see where the thread is going, T & L started off with cheap guitars and a heavy DIY ethic.. but they surely deserve the recognition for pioneering their own sound.. and this is exactly what this is: paying tribute..
my first guitar was a gift, and i smashed it because i didn't have patience to learn it.
my second guitar, i found it at my father's yard.. someone had just left it there and it was terribly messed up..
as i started playing i got my first "decent" guitar, which cost me somewhere around 250 dollars..
i don't know anything about modifications, but i do own 2 pairs of drumsticks - and guess where that idea came from?

so - the short story is, cheap guitars are always available.. having a cheap guitar should not ruin your fun.. if you got the money, you can spend it as you wish..
i'm planning to buy them both, once i get rich..
and i'll use the stickers on my other guitars and spray paint the crap out of them and hammer some nails into them or something..

in the meantime, i'll be envious of those guitars as i am of telecasters, and i'll be distorting the sound of my cheap and lovely guitar with random pedals and whatever i can get my hands on.....

My sentiments as well. I don't think it's a bad idea though, for either Fender of SY, but in general, finding your own sound is the idea. Aside from the projected response from SY fans/players, there's just as good a chance that these will get interest just for being great models as well.

I am happy for Thurston and Lee though and mega props for Fender to acknowledge them as iconic players. Of course there's so much more to their sound than guitars, but the last thing I'd want is a wave of bands attempting to sound like SY with new guitars.

J Mascis' sig. Jazzmaster sells for about $1270.00. So maybe the SY one's will sell for about that.

I noticed that Thurston was using his new signature model on the Fallon show performance. I don't remember Lee's, but it sticks out that Thurston was using his. I wonder if they'll play with those on this and all future shows / tours? Wonder if they're obligated too?

All and all though, for sure these are going to be some great sounding and playing guitars!

They started out with unfashionable, cheap guitars, which have now become cool and valuable... So like the Jazzmasters of the future will be, what, Yamaha Pacificas?

No, because the Jazzmasters of the 50s/60s/70s were well-built instruments made in the USA when Fender actually cared about quality, not cheap Asian superstrat knockoffs.

A few smaller builders have "economy" models in the sub-$1000 range, but for the most part, an American built guitar is going to be $1000+...I blame the unions...

ha ha fuck no please.

unsexy.

thanks for the tip esd.

i can't wait until 2014 when you guys are bidding grand$ on my pacifica auctions :)

not even kim could make a pacifica look cool!

http://maine.edu/~murph/SYCover.jpg

Hey GeneticKiss, care to elaborate on that?...

There was once a time where employers could get away with paying employees as little as they could and treat them like shit. So unions were formed to give employees a stronger voice in how things go.

Nowdays, there are laws and numerous organizations that make sure employees are paid well and treated fairly. But unions still exist, and they've gotten greedy. Whenever they don't feel like they're being paid enough (i.e. they just want more money), they go on strike. So to avoid this, employers pay them probably more than what they're worth, and the cost of labor keeps going higher and higher, and thus the price of goods goes higher and higher every year as well.

this pacifica

would make a better guitar than that pacifica. really.

here in europe they are 1890 EUR each. which is like $2700.

Holy shit that much?

unfortunately my messages get lost when i put links here. but, ... woodbrass . com offers those guitars. just search for thurston or ranaldo. ... there are some more online stores you can find via google. prices range between 1850 and 2000 Euros.

thats super expensive