you gave me bad reputation just because i don't like the eternal? i can see the connection now: those who say: "shut", "fuck", "rules" mostly like the new record. those who are more tolerant and able to write smth without bitching - they at least agree that the album isn't strong.

you are the only one who's bitching here. if you don't like the album, don't listen to it. as if sy don't have plenty more albums for you.

"ooh the yoof broke my little heart".. why don't you just go to the corner and cut yourself? loser.

:D :D :D

I always try not to come up with stuff like this but
what a fucking boring useless thread.

and your point is? sy released experimental in 1993, it wasnt great... they released rather ripped in 2006 and it wasnt great.... the eternal was released in 2009 and it is great...

mark e smith released bend sinister in 1984 and it wasnt great
he released imperial wax solvent in 2008 and it was great......

you dont have to love a band because of their age, you have to love the music because of what it is... the eternal IS a fucking excellent record and i am growing more in love with it on every listen...i fear it may even creep into my top 5 sy albums of all time..im loving it... sonic nurse is a pretty good album BTW (whatever you meant by that).

i find this thread kinda stupid really... i mean everyone berates the new sonic album because it hasnt been as rocking as say goo or whatever... ive been here for murray st, nurse, rr and now the eternal and the same complaints happen all the time and the few that love the album and are willing to give up their indie street cred snobbery get pointed and laughed at... its stupid..

ok you dont like the album, all i can say is you are not listening hard enough..ive been an avid sy supporter since i was 14/15, thats 20 fucking years and i have rarely felt the joy on hearing an album by sy as i have this one...its a classic sy album, sorry it will be.. now thats my opinion and my opinion is as valid as the next mans but personally i think it pisses on rather ripped, sonic nurse, ejstans, ...maybe even murray st and a thousand leaves(that one was just too short) and thats after sleeping with the album for the last 5 days..i cant enough of it at the moment....shit even all kims songs rule on it..... and that shouldnt be because they were younger when the other albums came out....btw

im not here to row with you, i just dont get your point...age is relative and a 50 year old aint gonna make an album as criminally brilliant as daydream or evol...because why....its out of context with life...its all relevent......

ha! yeah, ok....because you said that man, i agree with anything you say!
seriously.... i have no balls to break with you i just firmly believe this album is excellent...yknow maybe i believe it too much..... its a forum and we are all gonna have disagreements on simple uninportant shit like this but yknow... us sonic youth fans are an anal bunch....possibly the most anal bunch of anoraks any band has.....and thats cool too.......

...seriously tho...give it time....maybe..... who knows...... later!

I tend to see Sonic youth releases now as little more than interesting chapters in their ongoing story. For that reason I'll keep on buying their records; keen to know what they're doing, but with increasingly less expectations regarding their actual merits. Obviously I hope The Eternal is a great album but I'm honestly not that fussed either way. The Eternal will be a fascinating album regardless, simply because I find Sonic Youth a fascinating band.

So far, looking at setlists, they've only been playing a handful of tunes from Eternal at their recent shows. I hope for this summer tour they play ALL of them as they did for the last release, RR.

In 2006 when I saw them, they played ALL RR plus 5 other great tunes.

Fingers are crossed !

When I saw them in 2006 they played everything from RR except Sleepin' Around. Haha, they must have know how much that song blows.

I'm pretty much the same. I buy records most weeks. The Eternal will probably be one of them. And I'll probably try and like it twice, and then not bother again. And continuing posting on their forum, in spite of the fact there are lots of better things I could be doing.

Load of shit, innit?

i'm still mixed about The Eternal after several listens but a few things are very apparant as compared to almost any album they've done in the 2000's... the songs on this album are very immediate and tight, no real long forays into noise or weird sonic passages or at least they are kept to a minimum, where the focus is on song structure it is also sort of a weakness here, there are some songs that are just too bland and unengaging for me (ie Leaky Lifeboat) and others that are spotty with great moments meshed with some really off bland riff. I forget which song (i think Leaky Lifeboat again) has a riff thats lifted from that Helen Lundburg song or the other from that 7". The vocals are interesting and different, their sounds like a new guitar tuning on this album too. Definitely more of a heavier rock based sound on this album more like Dirty/Goo than Sonic Nurse or Rather Ripped. the song "What we Know" startf out to me sounding like a Pixies riff and then Thurston's guitar has a Polvo-esque whcked out chord too which is interesting... I dunno about the comparisons to the pre-DGC era i just don't hear much of that at all on this album.

this

And definitely this.

i'll listen to it again, undoubtedly! :D
but this time i will wait for better quality version.

oh yeah!!!!

lovely, now i know not to get this album.

thanks.

no, listen and make yr own judgement.

i havnt actually heard it yet but i am just hoping to god its nothing like the last few albums because they really are boring by the numbers predictable efforts. i will wait until its released and give it a listen before i comment further.

... and the bashing goes on. :-)

Haven't heard it yet, but something tells me it's going to be a great album.

i would like to think so.

Maybe you wouldn't hate it so much if the stream was at a higher bit rate!!

muhahahahaha

Don't worry, The Eternal is an awesome album!

Oh you <3

You only listen to what you have to say about a record, why worry about eternally tedious opinions, anyway?

This album probably, in all reality, isn't that great. But next to rather ripped it seems like a fucking MASTERPIECE so... THIS ALBUM RULES!

^ Yep

Well, 2 of them are not, but they get buried by the amount of greatness this record carries along with it. It accomplishes what Murray Street didn't really do (a SY record that feels like it was made by some 70's rock dinosaur), plus it throws all the poppy moves Rather Ripped is too lame at. And it adds to it.

Sacred Trickster is horrible.

I love Sacred Trickster! Thunderclap and Calming the Snake are my least favourites, and I still love them!

I'm about to go calm my snake right now.

hhahahahah

I think I'm going to go stick my poison arrow in a leaky lifeboat right now actually.

And it's not innovative. how better could it get?

@asp hahha, nice nice. It would take me days to think of one of those things.

Are you the son of retards?

Yes

just kidding, but I'm kind of stupid when it comes to things like that

You are the son of retards. Why worry about things like that?

No worries