it is relevant. humans created mathematics, the science of mathematics.

just like humans created geometry, another branch of mathematics.

and I do believe Math was orginally created by women.

do you mean to tell me that there's math.....in the kitchen???!

Can't believe this thread is still going! Well done I say.

I wish that I had some pie right now.

Sure..to make a good cake. It can be useful.

pie is so much better than cake.

I think it is too easy to discount the actual genetic source for males obsessions with whatever females they find attractive.
nature versus nurture sure, but in the case of many men's overwhelming lust it is probably purely genetic. society teaches specifics about the male/female relationship, and in patriarchal society young men are definitely taught to view women as objects, which further reinforces what the genes are already telling young boys.

there are not many species which diferentiate sexually who do not have a wild difference between the appearance of the male and the female. in some it is the male which is the predominant bearer of "beauty" to attract the female (peacocks for example), and in many it is the female that is the one bearing the "beauty" of the species. (of course beauty is a relative term when seen from human eyes)

In Humans the female is generally seen as more beautiful than the male, to both men and women. to many people a naked woman is a naked woman while a naked man is a naked ape.

I only experience overwhelming lust for women who I percieved to be as equal to or greater than myself (math).

it has nothing to do with physical appearance.

I'm a soul man.

oh, and PIE, please.

LOOK! I found my favorite pie on a site called "math for primates"!!!!

there's MATH in PIE!!!!!!

Yes, how to part a pie (or a cake) in 5 equal parts is rather tough.

Isn't the earth populated by more women than men? Rethorical question, I know.

I think a naked women is more beautiful than a naked man. In a "if you could have a naked statue of a man or a woman in your house, which would you choose?" sort of way.

you should try 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 1058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 82148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128 48111745028410270198521105559644622948954930381964 42881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914 56485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412737 24587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367 89259036001133053054882046652138414695194151160943 30572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185480 74462379962749567351885752724891227938183011949129 83367336244065664308602139494639522473719070217986 09437027705392171762931767523846748184676694051320 00568127145263560827785771342757789609173637178721 46844090122495343014654958537105079227968925892354 20199561121290219608640344181598136297747713099605 187072113499999983729780499510597317328160963185950244594553469083 02642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752 88658753320838142061717766914730359825349042875546 87311595628638823537875937519577818577805321712268 06613001927876611195909216420198938095257201065485 86327886593615338182796823030195203530185296899577 36225994138912497217752834791315155748572424541506 959 pieces.

what I have read worldwide is around 51% female 49% male, plus or minus

except in China where they are breeding baby boys at a prodigious rate.

This is geometry, not algebra, space.

You seem to be talking abou two different things. Human eyes can see the appeal of both types of bodies, and still feel like the animal instinct which pushes us towards a particular sex organ doesn't find the overall aesthetical merits of our least sexually preferred gender enough to warrant objectification of both, at least in the majority of cases. Sure, you can try anything out and perhaps even enjoy the experience, yet unless you regularly have intercourse with them, you can hardly claim preference as such.
@rob

Rob, did you ever find yourself in front of an obviously good looking dude and thought ''wow he's nice looking, still not enough for me to have sex with him''?

Nope. Ussually it is more like "I bet the ladies find this guy super handsome."

Well, not much different than admitting that you can recognize male beauty as well as female.

yo. rob just admitted that he checks out dudes.

GAY.

recognizing it and being irresistibly drawn to it are two separate issues. I think it is more about the latter when we talk about some men objectifying women.

wonder what femenist's think of Sex & the City 2 where Kim Catrall's character fellates a hookah in Abu Dhabi to "impress" an Arab guy?

I know many women who think this show caters to the worst stereotypes of women, and the same amount that say it is a parable of empowerment or some other such shit.


who can say?

Nobody was questioning rob's sexuality. As if there was any need to.

space is dreamin.

he cannot get over my natural latin heat.

yeah, that would be a dangerous line of thought to pursue, would it?

that's not what i meant, but i'd like to discuss it. discussing gender is almost as touchy as discussing race, but it needs to be done.

i just wanted to say hi, but i have to take a friend to the airport in a few minutes and i'll check back later. said friend is a woman and is smart and awesome by the way, ha ha ha. i don't objectify her :P (im joking, dammit!)

ok i gotta go but stick around later if you can. i don't get a chance to discuss this kind of stuff on the internet very often-- at least with people i like and in a thoughtful manner.

Has the big gay Rob gag come back again? Yay! That was one of my favourites, up there with gmku is the internet.

You do seem to become a little defensive when challenged, if I think of it.

we only have you to thank for that gag; well, and the fact that rob checks out dudes.

next up: BRADDERS.

What do you mean, next up Bradders? Bradders is clearly happy being an asexual worm of some sort. Unlike Big Gay cock lovin' Rob, who wouldn't mind a worm of a different sort, if you know what I mean.

gaying out with you guys is the greatest thing to ever happen to my heterosexual love life.

rob, when you find yrself looking at this picture, do you think "I wonder if I could fit them all inside my butt??"

bradders obviously hates being called bradders as much as rob clearly loves the cock.

Lars Von Trier-sian depictions of women are the most honest and accurate.

when rob ''instigator'' posts pics of himself my natural, human inclination can't help thinking YEEEAAAH CHECK DAT ASS!!

the question that would help shine light on this thread is

"Do gay men ever feel shame at the way they objectify other men?"

Do lesbian women objectify other women? Is it purely a male thing?

all the gay boys wanna tap this, but they all cry in rejection. ;)

Plenty of fish in the water and all that...
Of course some gay dudes and lesbians objectify as much as anyone. It's not less tedious when they make it the main topic of almost all conversations.