belle and sebastian are twee metal.

Because this thread is non-metal dudes in metal tees.

I don't really expect educated opinions about metal from the Sonic Youth forums, but some of this really is laughable.

wtf????????? is it because the word "heavy" qualifies it? they are so fucking metal.

those are pretty basic questions, atavist, lesbian or benighted don't make me want to dance or define metal, but they sure rule.

besides, i'm beginning to think sy fans don't listen to anything that's not on ecstatic peace, on pitchfork, named dropped by thurston or dinosaur jr.

Outside of the galaxy of metal subgenres, Sonic Youth is the band I probably listen to the most (or have the most releases from...) and enjoy quite a bit.

This board seems to pull from many different segments of the Sonic Youth lover spectrum, and that includes folks who don't know shit about metal, noise, skacore or whatfuckinever.

One thing that unites this board, regardless of chosen genres, is the broad musical snobbery that each and every one of us is guilty of, myself included.

So keep on about the arguments of whether or not Girlschool is metal or not.

It's entertaining.

I might have been a little redundant there.

Whoops.

The last time I felt guilty of musical snobbery , I bought a record of Placebo , then I decided to remain snob.

I stopped listening to metal once I discovered sonic youth in 1988, because 4 geeky looking artsy weirdos shredded their guitars and pummeled me with heavy rock and rocked me out with intensity heretofore never experienced by me, much much more than any metal act I was into at the time (slayer, megadeth, nuclear assault, sacred reich, exodus, metallica, anthrax, testament, etc.)

and swa(y), awesome color suck shit.
and I have seen them live.

I think also that it is prety bild not to notice that most people on this forum listen to EVERYTHING. my record collection ranges from 80's college rock, to punk, tro harcore, to metal, to indie, to every stage of jazz to classical music from baroque to contemporary, to funk, to all sorts of blues, from country to electric blues, etc

many people on here listen to the full spectrum of dance music (not me, but that is a personal preference) or to electronic music, as well as the far reaches of the avant garde in all genres.

and what ISN'T opn pitchfork these days? they cover evrything from folk bullshit to rap bullshit to whatever the fuck grimestep is.

hahahahha!

hell, half the stooges first record sucks ass! BORING!!!!!

There are no sacred cows!

diamond dave!

for real though man, I love me some stooges, but half that first album is BORING, turgid proto-guitar wankery.

half is perfect though.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rob Instigator again.

Like a lot of Gen-Xers, I stopped listening to new 'heavy metal' in the mid '80s when I realised it was no longer heavy metal. Metallica made some great albums, and Venom made some good scary-but-fun ones, but I never considered such bands to be heavy metal per se. Heavy metal, for those of us who grew up on the '70s bands, was more than just an extreme sound--it was also an attitude, and these new punk-influenced (punk-misinterpreted?), thrash-style bands simply didn't have any semblance of that attitude. They were more right-wing, violent and ignorant.

And I certainly never considered all those 'hard-rocking' commercial bands to be heavy metal; they were early '70s-style glam/glitter rock at best--and even then, closer to the sounds of Gary Glitter and The Bay City Rollers than those of Slade and T. Rex! Brighton Rock and Poison put me off so-called 'heavy metal' altogether.

so, deep purple: metal, not metal or "dinosaur jr!!!!!"?

You could listen to all them bands though. Ya know?

Haha. Yeah, I can see that.

I don't really like Awesome Color, but I don't think they're really all that bad. I mean, they really are a "one guitar string at a time Stooges rip-off," i.e., they play more single notes than chords, but I don't think it's too too shabby. Maybe just too shabby.

As for me and Ecstatic Peace, I have only bought 2 CDs from them, and I will probably buy many more, but I'm not really impressed with their portfolio. I mean... sweet. Pagoda... yeah... and Black Helicopter... sweet.

Haha.

To be honest I have always found Heavy Metal to be both highly amusing and totally ridiculous... what with all of the preposterous posturing and the laughable sword and sandal/occult lyrics... and have therefore never been able to take it seriously.

I know that there are exceptions to the rule out there... somewhere.

Can anyone recommend an interesting HM band that isn't riddled with cliche?

the only ones I listen to regularly at all are the first 3 metallica albums, Peace Sells by megadeth

I cannot stand exodus or anthrax or DRI anymore.....