The counter to that is that the pantheon of 'classic rock' albums are bloated artefacts of a time when access to different music was significantly limited by comparison to today. I agree with your sentiment (in part, with severe reservations), but not the implication.

on that note, i once bought an lp of chubby checker for 25 cents, and i detested it.

Feisty.

I have to admit, I'm not that big of a fan of Led Zeppelin. But, I can't deny the influence they've had on music. Whether good or bad (I could do without a lot of the (overthetop) metal bands they inspired though)

"Listen to the core reactor awesomeness of ‘Paper Cup Exit’ as it reduces such legends as Led Zeppelin and Yes to just so much British schoolboy whimpering."

who said that? (it's false, you know). :D

that quote is in the PR kit for Sonic Nurse.

Paper Cup Exit is a good song, but it's a hollow boast.
My feeling is that it's probably meant to be a bit over-the-top.

from here: http://www.sonicyouth.com/nurse/

It's a hilarious blurb for Nurse...

Wasn't that part of the promo for Nurse? I remember reading it on the opening page of the official site or something. I think they also mocked Justin Timberlake.

Right, that's what I remember.

Page's skiffle days were quite exhilerating, but he got a bit too laid back and conservative after that.

oh yes! ok... thruston is such a funny guy...

For instance, I imagine it was Thurston that penned the fake reviews in jest for Wylde Ratttz.

"Bigger Balls Than Charlie Manson" - Rolling Stone

"Hotter than God" -Billboard

Although I believe gmku would like II more than IV, I still maintain that Physical Graffiti, I, III, & Houses of the Holy are better than II. After that, it's more of a toss-up between, say, IV & II for me.

shit i love the opening of "the song remains the same"

atari just reminded me of that

oooh too much goodness

too much fucking rocking goodness polluted by the filthy hands of PR machines and the cadillac commercial

however---

it's still a fucking great band. yes yes. in spite of the troves of cheesy fans. in spite of cokehead radio djs. kinda like elvis.

The guitar solo from Celebration Day live (especially on the Madison Square Garden performance featured on The Song Remains the Same soundtrack album) cooks like nobody's business.

When they were a working band, Led Zeppelin gave the finger to the media in general & were roundly disliked & often panned because of it.

Live, my three favorite Led Zeppelin tunes are probably No Quarter, Trampled Under Foot & The Rain Song. Damn, I just can't leave out In My Time of Dying or Dazed & Confused. They really stretched out live like very few rock bands do or are even capable of doing.

If you really wanna see Jimmy shred:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=epXeC40P80o

Yeah, those are the good old days. What Led Zeppelin should have been. But those damn sciences, tempting kids with ideas of laboratories and inventions...They should stick to realistic goals, like rock stardom.

god!!! no quarter!!! now we are speaking!!!

my reaction towards gmku wasn't out of being defensive to led zeppelin, it was this whole hipster attitude of "i'm too good to like music" which i find offensive as a music fan. bottomline is, whether you like led zeppelin or not, the fact is these people went out, formed a band, wrote songs, recorded albums, went on tour, had a constant lineup and only stopped when their drummer died; they got (and get) shit from people everywhere and also, a lot of people think they are not that shabby, in fact, a lot of musicians like them a lot, which inspired them to grab guitars write songs and tour and do shit. that's DOING something, not just sitting on your ass in front of a screen having some pity delusion on a wasted life, thinking how much better they are than a band that existed and matter for so many people today and before; which is sad but mostly i don't care.

and i find it hilarious that people started bitching here about people liking "rock" bands on the forum of a rock band. that borders on the retarded.

can i go past the line and behave like a smartass hipster? perhaps you can see it that way; while i don't like music for the sake of liking music (whether is hip or not), sometimes i give that idea because i simply like discovering new stuff and i like a huge range, from poppy and singalong to abrasive and difficult. but one thing is for sure, i don't think i'm better than anyone who obviously has talent and dedication and i also would probably be sad and pathetic if all i did was bitch about bands i don't like on a message board, i do music, i do a podcast, i do a fanzine/blog, i try to be productive. everyone has an opinion and is entitled to voice it, but the weight that opinion carries relies on what the person is doing.

or in the immortal words of ian mackaye: "you tell me that i make no difference/at least i'm fucking trying...AND WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE?"

it's the music that counts, not the douncebags that listen to it.

sometimes it's harder to separate the two, but really, it shouldn't be dependent to each other

(and before you bitch and cry about me not knowing when to stop, i spotted this post when Glice first put it up but got carried away and couldn't actually acknowledge it)