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The Earl Of Slander 08.06.2008 02:44 PM

My feelings about My Bloody Valentine's output change depending on my mood, but generally I'd stand by them as one of my favourite bands. Anyway, the point of this post is to say that, in my opinion, I Can See It (But I Can't Feel It) is the best track on Isn't Anything. I fucking love it.

demonrail666 08.06.2008 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Aw, really? I think the vocals are the best part.

"You Made Me Realize" has some of the best vocals I've ever heard. Very melodic and harmonious... whoo!


I tend to think that because the music has this quite ethereal sense to it, that the vocals need to have more of an edge to them. It's the difference for me between them and say something like SY on 'Cotton Crown' which never sounds insipid, despite its more laidback guitar sound.

acousticrock87 08.06.2008 02:51 PM

Soft As Snow and Lose My Breath are my favorite MBV songs. Isn't Anything was the first thing I heard from them, so it kinda felt downhill after such a great opening. I hate Feed Me With Your Kiss.

atsonicpark 08.06.2008 02:53 PM

"Feed Me With Your Kiss" is awesome, it's so sludgey and grungey that it's ridiculous.

HECKLER SPRAY 08.06.2008 02:54 PM

I'm really surprised there're not more albums from the 90's.

Cantankerous 08.06.2008 02:55 PM

isn't anything > loveless

but loveless is still great

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 08.06.2008 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
I traded in my cd copy of Psychocandy yesterday.

i agree

acousticrock87 08.06.2008 03:05 PM

MBV is just one of those bands where I can appreciate the aesthetic qualities that people like, but I just don't enjoy it.

Like, To Here Knows When is a very interesting song, and it's refreshing for about 10 seconds. Then I just think, okay shut the fuck up already. You made your point.

atsonicpark 08.06.2008 03:08 PM

Yep.

Cantankerous 08.06.2008 03:11 PM

people think you're on crack or something if you say isn't anything is better.

demonrail666 08.06.2008 03:11 PM

I'm sort of surprised You're Living All Over Me didn't make the top five.

acousticrock87 08.06.2008 03:12 PM

I listened to both of them before I actually knew anyone who listened to MBV. When I found out Loveless was the popular album I was completely baffled.

Cantankerous 08.06.2008 03:13 PM

it's like the shoegaze dark side of the moon. except that dark side is 30 times better.

demonrail666 08.06.2008 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
people think you're on crack or something if you say isn't anything is better.


No, but they'd think you were if you said Lil John was better.

atsonicpark 08.06.2008 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
people think you're on crack or something if you say isn't anything is better.


Loveless bores me, Isn't Anything doesn't.

Actually, speaking in real life (!) for a second, I know 4 people who like MBV and they all think Isn't Anything is way better.

So, uhh... I dunno.

demonrail666 08.06.2008 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
it's like the shoegaze dark side of the moon. except that dark side is 30 times better.


Now speaking of overrated albums.

acousticrock87 08.06.2008 03:14 PM

Maybe it was all peer pressure, and Loveless is really the album everyone secretly likes less.

It's safe to come out, everyone!

Cantankerous 08.06.2008 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
Now speaking of overrated albums.

i don't really care, it's my favourite album of all time. the only album that's ever struck any kind of emotional chord with me, ever.

i have always admitted liking loveless less than isn't anything.

demonrail666 08.06.2008 03:18 PM

Liking Dark Side is nothing to be either ashamed or proud of, it's just an album that I've never understood the appeal of. The millions of people who absolutely love it clearly puts me in the minority though.

atsonicpark 08.06.2008 03:18 PM

 

Cantankerous 08.06.2008 03:19 PM

yeah. i don't hold anything against anyone who doesn't like it, though, i mean, there's things that other people love as much as i love dark side and i don't necessarily agree with them.

demonrail666 08.06.2008 03:23 PM

I must admit though, i could never really trust anyone who didn't like the first Ramones album at least a little bit.

HECKLER SPRAY 08.06.2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
yeah. i don't hold anything against anyone who doesn't like it, though, i mean, there's things that other people love as much as i love dark side and i don't necessarily agree with them.

...like Polvo.

Cantankerous 08.06.2008 03:36 PM

i hate them but liking polvo doesn't mean there's something wrong with you.

atsonicpark 08.06.2008 03:36 PM

"heh Heh! No Weapons Of Mass Destruction In Here!"

HECKLER SPRAY 08.06.2008 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i hate them but liking polvo doesn't mean there's something wrong with you.

All the better !!!

Sorry, I'm so disappointed they didn't reach the top 20, I thought more people on this board really enjoyed their albums. I'm probably the only one who put Today's Active Lifestyles at the 2nd place.

Cantankerous 08.06.2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
"heh Heh! No Weapons Of Mass Destruction In Here!"

that was probably the real george bush

HECKLER SPRAY 08.06.2008 03:57 PM

Oh, I'm mistaken, I put it at the 3rd place.

Rob Instigator 08.06.2008 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Loveless is an inventive album, and definitely influential, but it just wanders along too much for my ears. The whole things sounds vaguely unfinished. Like a series of sketches to be crafted into something coherent later.


dude, that is like saying van gogh or monet should have FINISHED their paintings, instead of leaving them so "impressionistic"

Rob Instigator 08.06.2008 04:11 PM

I sent in my top 5 and it was this,

1- beatles - beatles
2 - daydream nation - SY
3- yr living all over me - dinosaur
4- Are You Experienced? - Jimi
5- Hairway to steven - butthole surfers

my top 3 made it in

HECKLER SPRAY 08.06.2008 04:17 PM

Any Sebadoh album, Rob ?
I'm surprised.

Rob Instigator 08.06.2008 04:25 PM

nope. I picked my top 5 all time records

sebadoh's smash yr head on the punk rock would be top ten though for sure.

so would Polvo's Exploded Drawing and Unwound's Fake Train

HECKLER SPRAY 08.06.2008 04:30 PM

As you want.


Do you still listen to the Beatles ?

Rob Instigator 08.06.2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
As you want.


Do you still listen to the Beatles ?


hell to the fuck yeah. that shit's timeless.

I listen to the white album at least once a month, same with sgt pepers and ABBEY ROAD! plus I have around 10-13 beatles 7" singles.

me and my friends learned how to write music from the beatles when we were all age 13-16.

StevOK 08.06.2008 04:38 PM

My votes were:

1. Pinkerton - Weezer
2. OK Computer - Radiohead
3. Sister - Sonic Youth
4. Siamese Dream - Smashing Pumpkins
5. In Utero - Nirvana

I didn't put much time into thinking about it, it was just off the top of my head.

demonrail666 08.06.2008 04:41 PM

I've only heard Weezer's Buddy Holly. Is other stuff by them radically different from that?

Rob Instigator 08.06.2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevOK
My votes were:

1. Pinkerton - Weezer
2. OK Computer - Radiohead
3. Sister - Sonic Youth
4. Siamese Dream - Smashing Pumpkins
5. In Utero - Nirvana

I didn't put much time into thinking about it, it was just off the top of my head.


that's the way to do it, if you want to go for what touches you the most in your deep special dark place.....:)

HECKLER SPRAY 08.06.2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
hell to the fuck yeah. that shit's timeless.

I listen to the white album at least once a month, same with sgt pepers and ABBEY ROAD! plus I have around 10-13 beatles 7" singles.

me and my friends learned how to write music from the beatles when we were all age 13-16.


Ah, ok.

I don't have any problem with the Beatles, it 's just... not my generation. Sometimes I feel like a little dumbass for not liking the Classic rock (Beatles, Stones, ...). That's life.

acousticrock87 08.06.2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
I've only heard Weezer's Buddy Holly. Is other stuff by them radically different from that?

Nope.

atsonicpark 08.06.2008 04:47 PM

Haha yes it is. "Say It Ain't So", "Surf Wax America", "Only in Dreams", "Pink Triangle", "El Scorcho", etc...none of those sound anything like "Buddy Holly"! I wouldn't say it's a radical departure, I mean they all are just power pop songs, but they have a lot of varied stuff on those albums. Now when you get to the green album, that's when all the songs sound identical.

Weezer's first two albums are great.


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