Yeah.

Hey, have you ever seen this video of Alex Jones rants as a Bon Iver song? If you know anything about Bob Iver at all, this is pretty goddamn on point. I think I actually wept with laughter when I first watched:

https://youtu.be/uWd6XgBVIcg

:D

Hunter S Thompsonon ESPN on Sept. 12, 2001: The towers are gone now, reduced to bloody rubble, along with all hopes for Peace in Our Time, in the United States or any other country. Make no mistake about it: We are At War now — with somebody — and we will stay At War with that mysterious Enemy for the rest of our lives.

haven't, but i will today

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btw have been racking my brains since yesterday about the notion of fighting without violence. how the fuck does one ever do that? at some point anyone starts to get triggered. you see a threat, you attack-- yes?

but i promised when this whole shitfest started that i'd do my best to stay sane in spite of the evils unleashed. and so i did that by detaching a bit and trying to stay above the fray. but i've been listening to amy goodman too much and holy shit is this a nightmare. this thread was the last straw

anyway i gotta get to work now but uffffffff... these are heavy days for me

let me know if this is any good. found link but haven't had time to watch yet

https://www.ted.com/talks/scilla_elw...h_non_violence

I've been having an ongoing inner debate about the violence issue myself. I made the same decision you did, to stay above it as much as possible, but I've been having trouble with that lately. I'm not going to start participating or inciting anything violent — not yet anyway — but I agree, it's becoming more and more difficult to maintain a position of unwavering pacifism.

I don't have an answer. But I will check that video out.

(You should watch Alex Jones as Bon Iver though. it made me laugh like crazy, despite everything.)

I tried watching that a couple of times, I can't watch that guy, did you see the vid of the little guy who threw coffee on him and then stood there waiting for Jones to do something other than yell? He didn't and I guess the guy was a wrestler just waiting to fuck him up. I also saw a good one of a small young woman kicking a "Patriot Prayer" asshole right in the butt. I enjoy the shit out of that stuff, the righties have been intimidating those my side for too long. It's not my way to hit them, I don't want to get sued or go to jail, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy it.

im not talking about physical violence but verbal violence.

take for example the dude in the other page. i found his speech consistent with white supremacist discourse/propaganda and decided to call him names and tear him a new asshole.

did i convince him of his wrongs? of course not. now he can claim victim status (antigerman discrimination) and is probably more recalcitrant than ever in his position.

doesn't the alt-right portray themselves as victimized to justify their abuses? don't they claim that multiculturalism is "white genocide", etc.?

so-- the shit will continue indefinitely, the cycle of victim-bully perpetuated forever. and my aggression does not help, it just provides fodder for more shit. endlessly.

then again history celebrates churchill over chamberlain. doesn't help that we have such role models (or that outside of his ww2 role churchill was his own kind of asshole).

When I was at UNH in 1984 there was this guy who would come on campus in front of the library, dressed in white robes carrying a huge wooden cross on his back, he wouldn't say anything but people would gather and sometimes students would spit on him.

To me, the video of him in Seattle was embarrassing. I was embarrassed as a former Seattleite and I was embarrassed for current Seattleites. They made themselves look like assholes and children. They should have ignored him or had the balls to have a discussion. Flipping coffee in his face was stupid. Did NOT help to counter anything Jones says or stands for. Didn't even successfully make him act out any more than he usually does.

Fucking people man. Someone need to call him on the "literal goblin" bullshit. Someone needs to tell him on camera that they know he confessed to being a "character" when he was struggling to get custody of his daughter. They should have asked him about that. Not flipped coffee in his face with a "My friends are gonna think I'm sooooo cool" look on their dipshit faces.

#Antiprogress

that video was pretty great. the lady needed a glass of water though. but good content. i was impressed with some of her anecdotes. wanna watch it again. got a reference to this apparently important book/pamphlet:

"from dictatorship to democracy" by gene sharp

http://www.aeinstein.org/wp-content/...13/09/FDTD.pdf

^^ free pdf

we might need it soon! or not! who knows!?

Good call. Thanks for the link.

watch the ted talk first tho

if you think he has a rational discussion with anyone at any time, you haven't watched him at all:rolleyes:

Daaaaamn!!

Dipped into the MAGA pool. Folks are pissed!

First Trump "deals" on DACA.

Then he signs a resolution condemning white nationalists.

So he loves illegal immigration and hates the first amendment. If I was on the Trump train, I'd be pissed too.

But I'm not, so hahahahahahahahahahhaaha!!!!

EDIT: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuckers

i was reading about it on the paper this morning and thinking that this was the trump that i was *hoping for* -- like he could maybe after all be pragmatic and "business like" and maybe even favor business growth and be somewhat reasonable

but-- who knows! cuz he's being druggd up right? xD

Sadly, reality isn't logical nor is it rational.

No I don't think that. But wouldn't it be better to point out his ridiculous, nonsensical "arguments" about ghouls taking over AND the fact that he admitted his entire persona was an act than to just... Fucking throw coffee at him like a little bitch?

An opportunity to make him looks truly stupid, and he knew nobody would take it. He knew they'd all throw coffee or yell "Fuck you!" and run off, which only makes him look better and the people who hate him look worse. Especially to the morons watching him.

All around pathetic fucking display, from all sides. I'd absolutely LOVE to have an opportunity to ask him some pointed questions on camera. It would be so easy to be the bigger person in that scenario and yet nobody chose to do it, and his fans just LOVED that vid, and his critics just jizzed over someone acting like a seventh grader.

Way to stick it to the man, Seattle. Say noting and do stupid shit. Very Effective.

Pains me to say it because that's my fucking home, but Seattle screwed the pooch. Big time.

Gotta disagree. The guy would never rationally discuss anything with anybody ever. Fuck him over in any way. I wish someone would have tossed a bag of shit on him

LOOK, the fact is... I love tesla69. I love you, tesla. I want your body. Gimme your butt.

Give him soup first.

Dude that is NOT how it works.

Not surprising I don't know that, I've never actually watched Seinfeld.

ha ha i thought of american beauty when lester decides to give the cheerleader some soup instead of being a filthy creeper

Road to Perdition > American Beauty in my oh-so humble opinion.

American Beauty hasn't aged well. Road to Perdition was underrated from the start. Great film all around. Jude Law showed me he could act, like, for real. And he was terrifying. Nobody ever remembers Road to Perdition.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

W-w-whaaaaaa?

In what way? I watched it again recently and, yeah, it's obviously of its time, but not in any kind of limiting way, I'd say.

I haven't watched the american The Office either. Heresy, I know.

what does one have to do with the other? butts and soup there too??

i sure don't remember. i never saw it in the first place.

butt what does one have to do with the other and in which way?

what soup? and who's butt?

this i must know

i don't care for jude law's butt so better be a good one

eh. you might be missing on some cultural references but not a great experience as far as i'm concerned.

i found the main fucker mostly annoying. also annoying: people still saying "that's what she said" (please god take them now)

except for dwigth schrutte (sp?). that was a funny character.

Road to Perdition was the next movie Sam Mendes made after the huge success of American Beauty. It was really hyped up, because the guy had just won all these Oscars, and people were excited about what he would do next. It got really good reviews but did not perform well at the box office, and was snubbed at award time.

It's a period piece about an Irish mob enforcer in the late-'20s/early-'30s whose son witnesses a hit and compromises the family's security. The guy has to make a decision... fight the family, give up his son, or bring his son into the bloody family business.

His choice ... well, it's not easy.

Tom Hanks, Paul Newman, Jude Law, Daniel Craig. A goddamn excellent and beautiful movie that was much more evolved and well thought-out and challenging than its predecessor. It's actually based on an obscure black and white graphic novel, but I didn't know that until after I saw it, and that's not why I like it.

American Beauty had its moments, but its depiction of teenagers was hilariously out of touch. No teenager has ever talked the way ANY of the teenagers in that movie spoke to one another. Except the teenagers who were literally acting IN that movie. I guess they talked that way, while on the clock.

It was too much. It doesn't hold up for me at all. Kevin Spacey is good, and his plot is interesting, but it takes some really pretentious side-roads and detours to Point-ville.

Road to Perdition is a masterclass. Everything is better. Down to the color palette and score.

I liked the Andy character. He made me laugh the most. Went from pathetic bully to sensitive anger management issue guy to nicest dude in the world to boss to crazytown, and then I stopped watching. That dude from the Hangover. Ed something? Yeah, I liked him.

oh i'll reply to your message in the movie thread then

just here to ask again if there are soups and butts in road to perdition because that was never clarified

so, I keep getting pop ups from Norton about the Equifax data breach, trying to sell "Lifeline" data protection. Ends up, it's owned by Norton and uses Equifax data

http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...918-story.html

great quote from the article

''.... the consumers whose information is on file at Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion aren’t those firms’ customers—they’re the product."

trump angle? Rethugs are trying to deregulate the credit industry!

http://www.latimes.com/business/laza...919-story.html

great quote from the article

"As a dog owner, I know that you encourage good behavior with treats.

Nobody should get a Milk Bone for peeing on the floor."

american beauty sucked. it was pedo porn for the sickos in hollywood,

wrong thread rob

demasiada mota! xD

I wish. no hay suficiente mota!!!!!!

*does shakey-hand thing that basically means "ehhhh kinda" but in a way that is inoffensive to everyone*

Re: Equifax

FUCK! I forgot about that!

so, who's the Russian spy sitting behind Melanoma here?



why, holy fuck! It's ROSA KLEBB (from Russia with Love) The spy with the "shoe dagger"

After five months in jail, Dr. Jumana Nagarwala, the Detroit-area Muslim doctor accused of mutilating the genitalia of “countless” young girls, was released on a $4.5 million unsecured property bond Tuesday.

Despite the horrifying charges Dr Nagarwala faces, she has supporters - 17 of which have offered to put their own homes and assets on the line to free the doctor from jail until trial, a trial by the way – that is being watched closely all over the country.

“They have uncovered an underground network of human mutilators that are trafficking their children across state lines,” she says.

http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detr...?autoplay=true

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/u...m-cutting.html

^ yeah this was definitely a deeply unsettling thing, and I have no idea how to talk about it. But it’s certainly fucked up, and it’s the kind of story that makes me question the degree to which I actually understand how different cultures do/should interact. I’m not qualified to speak on this shit. But of course my (possibly naive) opinion is that it’s horrifying.

I’m not sure what this has to do with Donald Trump though.

ETA: WOW that WXYZ story is piss-poor!! Holy mother of Jesus, it’s just too bad for words. But, like, it IS words. Checkit:


So basically, A) WXYZ is saying the decision is “shocking” and the act is “horrifying,” and you know you’re reading a good unbiased source when you see value statements and modifiers all over the goddamn place instead of quotes. Right?
And B) she’s accused of “mutilating girls ... until trial.” That is a charge I have never come across myself. And a weird one at that. Not to be indelicate, but this story is its own kind of mutilation.

(There’s more crappy writing in the “article,” so take a look if ya want a larf.)

You've read a newspaper before, right?

And tbh, I don't know how you can be unbiased about FGM. Just other cultures do it doesn't mean you can't denounce it to hell and back. Cunts who do this shit should be strung up.

One of the worst excuses I ever hear anyone say is "oh, but that's their culture". As if that absolves anyone of this sort of thing. These people think they're being liberal and open-minded when actually they come across as total fucking morons.