If I had to go to the proverbial Desert Island with only 10 albums, the pop masterpiece Zombies - Odessey And Oracle would be one of them.

Beatles: Rock or Pop?

It's all fucking labels.

Fuck me! Give me some time and I'll compile a few Sonic Youth Pop Songs.

Dude, whatever, I'm sick of the fucking Beatles - Beatles this, Beatles that, they might be Beatles XCX for all I know or care, fuck 'em, Fang was better.

Sheesh! Talk about biting the hand that feeds ya!! 😂

I was born in England in 1962. I lived there until I was 10. The Beatles is part of my DNA. Hey Jude is still the greatest song ever. Deal with it.

***But I look up Fang***

Why, were you gonna send me records from your store or summat?

The coda alone makes me nauseous. McCartney has done better.

ETA: And why did Manchester City fans adopt a song by a buncha Liverpool yobs as their anthem? Not enough good music in Cottonopolis?

Not me. The Beatles.

The coda is monumental. Macca is possessed. He was never so invested.

If you can't tell the difference between 1960s pop in the form of The Beatles and 21st century pop in the form of lowest common denominator audio porn ringtone music written by 20 faceless droids behind the scenes then I don't know what to tell you

I must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Kuhb again.

You guys make me laugh. I thought we were all about not just limiting ourselves to the same old tired rock records?

This. Yes.

I thought I was too old to be progressively minded musically, but here people are in 2024 acting like pop isn’t a worthwhile genre and to that I say: Are you fucking serious? Also, are you 18? Is it 1989? Are you late for your 2 a.m. shift at the campus radio station?

The fuck, man.

Indigo De Souza? Let’s Eat Grandma? Caroline Polachek? Beyoncé? Katy Kirby? Róisín Murphy? HAIM? Guerilla Toss? Stella Donnelly? Robyn? SOPHIE? Alvvays? Fucking Kim Carnes?! Annie Lennox?! Kate Bush?! Prince?!!

The fuck are we even doing here? Pop has cast such a wide net that diminishing it ALL on principle seems — what’s the word — dumber than shit.

Hey Jude sucks but the Beatles are fucking great, we’re not doing this today. On God I will lose my shit if I have to defend the fucking Beatles of all fucking bands. Goddammit.

It's all good. Put on your Beyonce and Tay Tay if it helps you feel 'progressively minded'.

Yea man, screw the counterculture, what was that even about like?!

Oh my god. Lmao. I guess I should have asked if it was 1975, not 1989.

If there is a counterculture hidden somewhere in the monoculture that is today, said counterculture definitely listens to most of the artists I just listed.

The only people allowed to listen to pop-music are children, the mentally deficient, Kim Gordon, Glice, and Skuj (because if he doesn't manage to peddle the latest Dua Lipa to the cunting masses he will die). The rest of you lot want rounding up and executing.

Saying an entire macro-genre of music is bad because you’re addicted to your outsider mentality is some childish nonsense but go off I guess.

You can dislike the idea of the “mainstream” without pretending all popular music is the same and terrible.

Such is post post modern life, you can be accused of being closed minded for listening to the endless ocean of interesting, honest, ambitious, real music past and present at the expense of the algorithmically constructed, manufactured, co-co-co-co-co written slop we're told is music by virtue of its presence at the top of the charts/streams.

That's poptimism for you. You can't opt out of the pop. The pop must be embraced. The pop must be lauded lest you be cast out with the dads and dying.

Ah yes, Huey Lewis, famously the same exact thing as fucking SOPHIE. Lmao.

^Are ye alreet pet? Ye seem to be arguing with yourself.


Executing x

I must say, for members of a generation that doesn't use TikTok, you're all acting surprisingly similarly to the people on it. You've all felt a bit off for the last month, is there something in the water?

All I know is If one finds themselves thinking the opposite to whatever Severian's saying then one can be rest assured in their opinion.

Why are you using Tik-Tok anyway? are ye some sort of cunt? :rolleyes:;)

Of course, the correct opinion is to not know or learn about something because you think it might not be cool enough.

You’re kinda right

Remember, It's not about how something sounds, It is how cool it is perceived to be :cool:

I feel like that’s the argument YOU started making with the counterculture stuff but maybe I was wrong and if so I apologize.

To be clear, my position is that it doesn’t fucking matter one iota whether something’s considered cool. What matters is how it sounds. And a lot of the pop you hate sounds good to me.

3/10. Come on Dude. Try harder.

***Looks up Dua Lipa***

You and I need to sit down and listen to my fucking 6CD Vomir box.

Anyway, this is the 2024 thread.

This morning during my wakeup bath I blasted brat again....AND I LOVED IT!!!

And for all the Cool Police who laugh at me for that....GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!!

I must get that Reputation thing and take a truckload to dump onto Severian's driveway.

Yes, and he would put forward more insightful and entertaining arguments in defence of the sort of pop music that's been discussed on this thread. There have been so many threads about pop artists on this forum before, it's nothing new or exciting. You like Charli XCX? Fine, nobody really gives a shit or is stopping you from listening to her music if you enjoy it.

Likewise, it seems

There are like 10 examples of people shitting on pop music in the last page and a half of this thread but OK dude

And still both you and Skuj did not manage to give an interesting or insightful reply to any of them. Carry on.

“Be interesting and insightful!” he demanded about a topic he just insisted nobody cared about.

Also, nobody’s given an “interesting or insightful” reason why people SHOULDN’T like pop music. Lmao.

Anyway, keep, um, hating pop music or whatever. Important work.

Because not many people give as much of a shit as you do about that either.