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Ah, fuck it. Let's go bowling.
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How did I know you were going to post something similar to that pic. |
... and i just wanted to discuss new sy album
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Start discussing, then. Danny did, you didn't.
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Oh yeah, The Eternal is one of Sonic Youth's best albums. I have listened to it for an insane amount of times by now.
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Because you pay attention. |
Or I've been here a long time.
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You find yourself begging for thrills on the internet, it means you don't get any in your own pathetic existence.
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Just curious, because I missed a lot of posts in here and there's no point in reading everything, most likely... |
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Personally I find it's a better record than Washing Machine, NYCG&F, and A Thousand Leaves.
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Danny your criticism was constructive and had some valid points. You talk about the production in the matters where production is sound- you don't like the way the vocals were recorded.
Alex talks about the production like an A+R guy, about creative production. Sonic Youth are a punk fucking rock band. They don't need some guy with a Donald Trump haircut telling them they need more cowbell and then rewriting the bridge in a song. |
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I'm going to wait till the physical CD is warming my ears till I proclaim it the equal or superior of ATL, because I put that album on a pedestal,but...better than the other two, I have no problem saying that. I'm on listen 12 right now. |
It's also the best recorded Sonic Youth album, in the best possible way. This from a shitty stream rip. It has more licks and good songs on a single album than any of those three, save for Sacred Twister and Thunderclap.
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I disagree with that, Sonic Youth are a rock band on a par with U2 or The Rolling Stones now, without sharing the same ridiculous posture or shit records. Or sales, obviously. |
Even the Stones or U2 wouldn't cede creative control to a bigwig producer. Not now at least.
"I'm Keef fucking Richards and yr gonna tell me how to structure my song? Fuck you!" And obviously no producer tries to get Mick to sing better. |
Def. sy's best since murray street, maybe will proven to be even better than murray. Great album. Surprised by it.
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That's what makes them great in the first place. This is not a John Agnello record, he just helped out with the way it sounds. It's a very commercial Sonic Youth record, by their old standards, without them having to whore themselves.
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you are right, they are rockers. but: when you do a songwriting like this, a mistake is a mistake, and you can hear it. And: the noise in "mass history" seems not to be a part of the song, but an aid to hide something. listen to nycgf. thats one piece, perfect. but i think, they are on their way to something new, and this album is however quite good, again: o really like malibu station, poison arrow and leaky lifeboat. |
I like the "la la la la la la" on leaky lifeboat. There are some very "pop" parts on this album but it doesn't stink up the place like rather ripped did.
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One of my favorite moments of the whole album. They were very smart about indulging their pop urges this time 'round. |
Well, hopefully this record will finally get them out of the irony of 'indie' ghettos. They haven't been an underground band in years, about time the world embraces this as mainstream too.
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Murray Street vs The Eternal: Lee Songs: Karenology's a beautiful Lee piece- among my favorites, but the Lee pieces on The Eternal are growing on me. What We Know + Walkin Blues ??? Karenology Kim Rockers: Sacred Trickster + Calming the Snake > Plastic Girl Thurston Rockers: No Way and Thunderclap for Bobbi Pyn vs nothing. Some could say that it's a good thing that there are no Thurston rockers on Murray Street. I'm undecided. Compared to some other Thurston "rockers" like Sleepin' Around or Junkie's Promise, No Way and Thunderclap are pretty good, but Silver Rocket, 100%, or Teenage Riot they are not. No Way + Thunderclap for Bobby Pyn ??? no Thurston rockers. Thurston Songs: Radical Adults Lick Godhead Style is a favorite of mine, but I'd say that Antenna, Leaky Lifeboat are better than Empty Page, Rain on Tin, and Disconnection Notice, while I'd put Poison Arrow at the same level as them. Radical Adults Lick Godhead Style ??? Leaky Lifeboat + Antenna > Empty Page + Rain on Tin + Disconnection Notice = Poison Arrow Kim Songs: Sympathy For the Strawberry is also a favorite of mine off Murray Street, but Massaging the History's really beautiful too. Malibu Gas Station isn't as good, but it's still a good song. Sympathy for the Strawberry ??? Massaging the History > Malibu Station Looking at that I'd say they're probably equal, at least to my tastes. |
so is 'malibu gas station' about britney spears...?
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i am going to listen to it before bed again tonight and see what i can hear. interesting... i did not read this entire thread, so i apologize too if this has been discussed already... but are these the actual lyrics for sacred trickster? (see below) and according to the Kim interview Moshe just posted- the artist, Yves Klein, referred to himself as 'the sacred trickster' and that is how Kim wants to be remembered... i love it. I want you to levitate me Don't you love me yet? Press up against the amp Turn up the treble, don't forget Getting dizzy, sitting around Sacred trickster in another tight sound I wish I could be music on a tree Noise Nomads and me Levitating on the ground What's it like to be a girl in a band? I don't quite understand That's so quaint to hear I feel so faint my dear Doing nothing, sitting around Sacred trickster in another tight sound I wish I could be music on a tree Noise Nomads and me Levitating, spinning around |
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hmm, search for 'lindsay lohan malibu gas station' turns up, not a lot.. search for 'britney spears malibu gas station' turns up a whole shitload. i can't quote the lyrics at the moment but they seemed applicable to britney's incident...
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what was her incident?
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some of you go on and on about this album being nurse v.2.
i don't hear it. not at all... eternal is much more upbeat than nurse and not nearly as reflective. it's more straightforward rock song. nurse v.2 it ain't.... (loving the album by the way, but nurse is still better :) ) |
righto, i've listened to this album about 6 times now and it's starting to click. REALLY getting into it.
damn, my obsession with SY is starting all over again.... this band has been so consistently PHENOMENAL since murray street.... |
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steve's drumming... i'm drooling...
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Marc Spitz from Uncut magazine in article about SY's new album summarized it nicely:
"The Eternal certainly sounds like like a band enjoying new-found freedom (in connection quitting Geffen). It covers Sonic Youth net skilfully, with two-minute punk rave-ups ("Sacred Trickster"), oblique art treaties ("Anti-Orgasm") and Byzantine space jams (the nine-minute "Massage The History"). It feels like a Best Of..., but with all new songs." |
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I wouldn't say it is Nurse 2.0, but I think people mean more in terms of guitar tones. There are a lot of the same types of tones on The Eternal, but the songs are very different. |
Hello my friends
i need some time off some unnerving work here at home. I will use this time off to comment and rate (omfg i hate that but hey) this new Sonik Yooff album: First of all i have to say i'm totally MESMERIZED that they could create such a mindmelding grower. This is no WM or ATL. But i totally sucked it in and it's doing me good literally. 1) sacred trickster: wow. This rocks my cock. Wild dual gtr action here. Terribly addictive and to the point. At first i thought it lacked the usual skronk but i get it elsewhere so there. perfect start. >>> 8,5 2) anti orgasm: i'm sooooo into this. rebellious semi feministic ranting in there. The structure is kind of out there, which i really like. I like what i call the "fucking part" when they both go ha hu ha hu; sexy. The outro is gorgeous. Funky bass . merci mark Ibold. >>> 9 3) Leaky Lifeboat: gotta love the harmonics, the funky wah, the upbeatness. the lalalalas >>> 8 4) Antenna: oh well what can i say. Gorgeous chorus, nice new gtr tones courtesy of Lee. Very pretty drumming too. This one is a total win. >>> 9 5) What we know: classic Lee singing. Not a fan at first. This one grew on me relatively quick cuz it's got a weird power to it. It's funny cuz this bass is not SY. Nice track. >>> 7,5 6) Caming the snake: gotta like the skronk here. Like the Thurston break too. Bass is all dissonant. I like Kim's "aoaoaoao". Didn't like the live version, but i get it now. Raw and heavy.>>> 7,5 7) Poison Arrow: Weird gtr tones!! Weird Lou Reed feel!!!! Nice layers of static in the background. I like the way Kim and T.bone sing together in this song. Very nice song, very VU, yes; pretty: >>> 7,5 8) Malibu gas Station: I nearly cried like a sissy when i listened to the intro. Lee must have listened to some ATL beforehand. The rest is "Sunday"-ish. Me likey a lot. The way the song bounces and gets really catchy after a couple of minutes (instrumental part w/solo). I would have loved a come back of the intro as an outro and some light drumming, but maybe that was too obvious, o well amazing >>> 9,5!! 9) Thunderclap: very Psychic Hearts. Nice dual gtr halfway through. Efficient track>>> 8 10) No way: very Psychic also. This one goes pretty well with Thundeclap, Like the solo.>>>8 11) Walking Blue: at first i thought it didn't sound like an SY song at all. But that's because this song is already a fucking CLASSIC. Wow, what can i say? Outstanding songwriting and gtrs. >>> 9,5 12) Massage: whoever said this was TOTA-like was completely right. VERY nice outro to the LP. Very subtile. Nice layers>> 9 Once again, i'm sorry but NOT ONE BAND IN THE WORLD can put out an album THAT strong after 30 years of rock n roll. I'm totally in awe. there. |
Hello my friends
I need to time off grapeape |
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This is true i think. |
does anyone get remineded of einsturzende neubauten in the guitar parts of massage the history?
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fuck yeah, more love for leaky lifeboat. first time i listened to it, i couldn't stop. the intro is awesome and i love how upbeat it is. lee's guitar is completely perfect and fits so well |
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