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contrelefuckingsexisme 03.09.2007 02:53 AM

Korn Unplugged - I'm guessing this is supossed to be taboo....
 
Yesterday I wrote in my fotolog after watching Korn's unplugged, that I found it to be pretty decent and elaborated in quite an unexpected way.
The newspapers said that MTV was intending to make Korn's unplugged outstand from what Nirvana achieved with their, and I said I believed they had made it. Everyone seemed to freak out. Several persons just said they didn't like it, but there was this one asshole who went: You know nothing about life papapapa Kurt this and Kurt that.

I AM SICK OF SENTIMENTALISM. I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE WON'T JUST LISTEN TO THIS OR THAT FORGETTING WHAT THE NAME OF THE FUCKING BAND IS AND SAY "I THINK IT'S COOL" OR "I THINK THIS IS TOTALLY UNCOOL"
THEY THINK THAT WHEN SOMEONE SAYS THAT SOME BAND'S WORK HAS BEEN OUTSTANDED BY SOME OTHER BAND'S WORK, THEY NEED TO START BLAHBING ABOUT THIS AND THAT IN ORDER NOT TO BETRAY THEIR NUMBER ONE DEAD IDOL.

I DON'T KNOW. I know most of you are all huge Nirvana fans, but I seriously never had expected to watch and listen to Korn sound this way. With all those unusual instruments for a band like that. I believe Nirvana's unplugged was the most normal thing on fucking earth but people got totally crazy about it because Kurt Cobain is dead.

Ok, now you can start yelling.

contrelefuckingsexisme 03.09.2007 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
no..it had nothing to do with kurt being dead.

it demonstrated a much prettier kurt, and that performance is just magical.

and you, are fucking lame.


ok.
you are an asshole just like the other one asshole.

ALIEN ANAL 03.09.2007 03:26 AM

where can i see some korn not on the cob?

SynthethicalY 03.09.2007 03:52 AM

I was into Korn when I knew nothing about music.

ALIEN ANAL 03.09.2007 04:42 AM

i still enjoy listening to korns first cd thats it.

foxforce5 03.09.2007 04:54 AM

First Korn cd is okay when I eat off my bike repeatedly and need to feel like a faggot if I don't ride it out. I feel dirty after, though.

ALIEN ANAL 03.09.2007 04:59 AM

i dont find the need to have to make every song i listen to some deep and profound indie shit, i just want to enjoy some beats i like.

CHOUT 03.09.2007 05:03 AM

What? Korn still exists?

foxforce5 03.09.2007 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ALIEN ANAL
i dont find the need to have to make every song i listen to some deep and profound indie shit, i just want to enjoy some beats i like.


Exact-o-ly. Go work in some cabinet warehouse at 3 some morning and when a stragley-goatee-chainsmoker pops in some Korn LOUD - I enjoy it - and push my broom with a bit more gusto, a bit more pride.

Context means so much. Watching Dora or catching bugs by myself isn't great but around my nieces is.

ACDC "Thunderstruck" in my room? Never. Before a hockey game? Yes!

Waking up to Ace of Base is wonderfully hilarious.

Paper napkins? Nope. Linen napkins at fancypants restuarant? Like a fucking pro.

Toilet & Bowels 03.09.2007 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by contrelefuckingsexisme
I believe Nirvana's unplugged was the most normal thing on fucking earth but people got totally crazy about it because Kurt Cobain is dead.


i totally agree about it being normal, but people went crazy for it before he died, the reason people like that is that it's the most easy listening thing nirvana did, it might as well be the eagles or frank sinatra. the moral of this story: most people suck at listening to music.

i heard the reason kurt cobain killed himself was so that idiots would go and weep at his grave.

sonicl 03.09.2007 08:42 AM

Yes there is. Too many people will just listen to what they're told to, and dismiss what they're told to, without any thought to forming their own opinion.

sarramkrop 03.09.2007 08:45 AM

Contrelefuckingsexisme's post was the first one that i read this morning and one of the better long ones that i've read from someone of her age range on here in quite a while.This regardless of the bands that she might or might not have been talking about.

sonicl 03.09.2007 08:48 AM

Contre's a smart lass. A shining light.

Everyneurotic 03.09.2007 10:59 AM

korn unplugged=comedy record of the year.

i mean, it's so pretentious with so called "unusual" instruments, but instead of doing good interpretations of their songs, they sound like crappy, soundtrack to ethereal music/dead can dance rip off but so watered down and lame, it's funny, the first song i heard from this crap was freak on a leash with the fat chick from herbalessence or whatever that avril lavigne goth metal band is called, it was hysterical, how serious they tried to appear. plus, there's like only three guys from korn left, they have like a 30 piece band to play this shit and only three are people in the band...and what's with all the animal masks?

i really mean it, it's a fucking comedy record.

and yeah, well i still like their first two albums, i like issues too, last time i heard it like 8 years ago, mind you, but korn and life is peachy are awesome.

and then, they have the retardness to cover radiohead's creep.


re: unplugged standards/nirvana


first of all, the whole concept of unplugged anything was to create a smoother, softer product of grunge bands to sell to older generations as "adult/contemporary," it has little to no artistic merits and most of the time, they suck, the songs sound crappy because most bands who have attempted an unplugged rely too much on distortion and effects, so listening to them acoustically is like listening to a half assed version of a song...seems stupid to me, not that there's bands who have the songs and creativeness to pull it off good, but mostly, no. plus, i fucking hate the word "unplugged."

that nirvana show, yeah it's good, as good as nirvana is, which is just above ok; the best mtv unplugged show i've heard was the cure, they really got into it, played their songs with their original intent and with added instrumentation.

Rob Instigator 03.09.2007 11:09 AM

the original intent of "unplugged" was to get METAL bands to do acoustic songs, so they could show what great "songwriters" they were. This was before grunge crap. and you are right, it was to sell the shit to people with pussies for ears.

I laughed hard when Dee Snider was talking about this in VHI's "history of Metal"

he talked abou how the formula developed where a new band would release a rocking song then a ballad an dthat way would maximize their album sales to guys and ladies. then bads started doing unplugged shit (Dee says "Thanks Tesla" sarcastically as fuck) and every metal band released a shitty acoustic guitar ballad. Dee Snider then proceeds to say "What's so metal about that? I mean, come on! Extreme? Posion? Fuck YOu and Fuck You and Fuck You and Fuck You."

I thought that was hilarious!

Everyneurotic 03.09.2007 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
the original intent of "unplugged" was to get METAL bands to do acoustic songs, so they could show what great "songwriters" they were. This was before grunge crap. and you are right, it was to sell the shit to people with pussies for ears.

I laughed hard when Dee Snider was talking about this in VHI's "history of Metal"

he talked abou how the formula developed where a new band would release a rocking song then a ballad an dthat way would maximize their album sales to guys and ladies. then bads started doing unplugged shit (Dee says "Thanks Tesla" sarcastically as fuck) and every metal band released a shitty acoustic guitar ballad. Dee Snider then proceeds to say "What's so metal about that? I mean, come on! Extreme? Posion? Fuck YOu and Fuck You and Fuck You and Fuck You."

I thought that was hilarious!


yeah, that was funny, although i suspect dee is just sore because twisted sister didn't get invited. he's right though.

anyway, how many bands have pulled the acoustic versions thing succesfully?

hmmm...

the cure
radiohead
nirvana, i guess...

i'm blanking.

!@#$%! 03.09.2007 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
yeah, that was funny, although i suspect dee is just sore because twisted sister didn't get invited. he's right though.

anyway, how many bands have pulled the acoustic versions thing succesfully?

hmmm...

the cure
radiohead
nirvana, i guess...

i'm blanking.


i dont know about you but the led zeppelin unplugged show from their "no quarter" album (where they borrowed from moroccan music) was a lot of fun, like listening to mad leprechauns on coke. (i liked it).

Everyneurotic 03.09.2007 11:22 AM

yes!! !@#$%!, that show is pretty suit, i still have my tape, for some reason, i had to find the import tape because it was printed in cardboard paper instead of glossy paper. that show is sweet indeed.

and it was billed as jimmy page and robert plant because john paul jones was being held hostage by diamanda galas and they didn't find bonzo's number in rock n' roll heaven.

they toured that album and came here, with the egyptian and moroccan players, i missed the tour but actually met the band leader. mr.s page and plant, of course, were too busy being rockstars to talk to the fans.

sarramkrop 03.09.2007 11:26 AM

As interesting as some of the posts that came after the first one might be, i'm afraid they have little to do with the one that kickstarted it.

!@#$%! 03.09.2007 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
As interesting as some of the posts that came after the first one might be, i'm afraid they have little to do with the one that kickstarted it.


yes that is often the case. im afraid i didnt listen to korn or have mtv anymore. (do they still play music on mtv? last i checked it was a bunch of retard reality shows to vomit for). my marginal contribution only goes towards the prerequisite argument that some of these shows are actually worth listening (though i agree most aren't).

sarramkrop 03.09.2007 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
shut the fuck up. please.

shhhhh.

what did this post have to do with it?

seriusly...do you expect a bunch of sy fans to sit around and discuss korn and how great their unplugged performance was....????


do you????


fucking idiot.


Cup of camomille tea, sir?

sarramkrop 03.09.2007 11:40 AM

Good, sod off then.

!@#$%! 03.09.2007 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
yr so.....nice.


watchu mumblin'???

!@#$%! 03.09.2007 11:46 AM

oh.

Rob Instigator 03.09.2007 12:08 PM

korn unplugged is like getting limp bisquick unplugged or rage against the machine unplugged. acoustic shit still smells like shit.

zedius 03.09.2007 12:12 PM

I just think Korn's horrible. Horrible horrible horrible. I too liked them when I knew nothing about music. I am so bored of korn now I want to cry every time I hear it. I heard that freak on a leash with Amy Lee and I wanted them both to die so I wouldn't have to hear crap like that on the radio anymore. Meanwhile some asshole in a tight shirt in a big truck with a Dragon clothing sticker in his back window is fucking blown away by this mature updated version of his glory years.

Edit: Mind you, the Nirvana fans are ridiculous too. But fuck, I was a Nirvana fan, and I feel like I was at least given something to work with. Kids nowadays don't have shit.

contrelefuckingsexisme 03.09.2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
shut the fuck up. please.

shhhhh.

what did this post have to do with it?

seriusly...do you expect a bunch of sy fans to sit around and discuss korn and how great their unplugged performance was....????


do you????


fucking idiot.


why are you such a fucking asshole?

that's what i wanted to prove. people like you talk shit without even listening and defend kurt cobain and if you owed him something.
you are quite close minded. i've never liked korn in my fucking life. i didn't even have one album by them. and i have nirvana's. i am not trying to tell you korn is better than nirvana, I AM TRYING TO MAKE SOME PEOPLE GET OUT OF THEIR FUCKING ASSES AND listen to music for what it is and not for who they are.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

I CAN LISTEN TO JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE AND SAY THAT THE SONG IS GOOD
AND IT WON'T HAVE ANY FUCKING DISTORTED GUITARS BUT IT MAY SOUND GOOD ANYWAY.

try it.

Trasher02 03.09.2007 12:27 PM

I though that Korn unplugged was pretty bad. The girl from evanesence(?) was just over the top.
But what do I know I'm just a man with a bag over his head.

zedius 03.09.2007 12:30 PM

Justin Timberlake sings "hits", not "songs". There's more marketing involved than music, and I think it's an important distinction.

contrelefuckingsexisme 03.09.2007 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Contrelefuckingsexisme's post was the first one that i read this morning and one of the better long ones that i've read from someone of her age range on here in quite a while.This regardless of the bands that she might or might not have been talking about.


I am just trying to understand why people are so so sentimental when it comes to their favourite band or idol. The asshole who started blahbing on my flog said the things he said and I swear he didn't get shit of what I was trying to say.

They're just opinions. You cannot start arguing somebody else's opinions trying to be the one who's right. I've always liked Hole more than Nirvana and that seemed to make people go mad too.
Whenever I put a picture of Hole in my flog people would start defending Kurt Cobain but in other way.
I think they need to calm down with the Cobain devotion and listen to music for what it is.
Now, if their comments were: I like Nirvana better. There wouldn't be any problem. But the first thing they tell you is: "SHE'S A FUCKING KILLER. A BITCH . A PAPAPAPPA" and that's when I get mad. Because honestly, I don't care who killed who, or who's dead. They weren't my friends or relatives or anything. They are just a couple of musicians whose records I own.

The same happened with this. I mean, I can't say that a band that's not Nirvana's unplugged sounded good? It's a fucking opinion!

I feel like I can never say that something sounds better than Nirvana. Ever.
But wait, when I said that if Kurt Cobain listened to the Foo Fighters he would commit suicide 5 times more (or ask someone to kill him), people went mad too. And started defending Dave Grohl, which is weird since he's still alive.

swa(y) can go fuck himself.

sarramkrop 03.09.2007 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zedius
Justin Timberlake sings "hits", not "songs". There's more marketing involved than music, and I think it's an important distinction.

Oh really?Do you live in a cave then?

zedius 03.09.2007 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Oh really?Do you live in a cave then?



Do you mean to say that my statement is ignorant, or that the only way to get away from shit music and shallow culture is to live in cave? Because I think the latter might be true.

contrelefuckingsexisme 03.09.2007 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
shut up....nirvana went beyond the music...the man...kurt cobain..created that heart-felt beautiful chaos.

read more cock rapist.


read more cock rapist?

didn't get the meaning of that.

but i'll take your opinion. because i respect you.

end of my conversation with you . :)

screamingskull 03.09.2007 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by contrelefuckingsexisme
swa(y) can go fuck himself.


he's being an asshole today:p . But he's entitled to an opinion as are all of us. If you liked Korn's unplugged then great, i haven't seen it yet, but i did like some of the stuff they did when i was younger. and i do like Nirvana's unplugged and some foo fighters stuff.

nice to see you around. you must post more!:)

!@#$%! 03.09.2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by contrelefuckingsexisme
why are you such a fucking asshole?

that's what i wanted to prove. people like you talk shit without even listening and defend kurt cobain and if you owed him something.
you are quite close minded. i've never liked korn in my fucking life. i didn't even have one album by them. and i have nirvana's. i am not trying to tell you korn is better than nirvana, I AM TRYING TO MAKE SOME PEOPLE GET OUT OF THEIR FUCKING ASSES AND listen to music for what it is and not for who they are.

YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

I CAN LISTEN TO JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE AND SAY THAT THE SONG IS GOOD
AND IT WON'T HAVE ANY FUCKING DISTORTED GUITARS BUT IT MAY SOUND GOOD ANYWAY.

try it.


ZIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

:D:D:D

screamingskull 03.09.2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
shut up....nirvana went beyond the music...the man...kurt cobain..created that heart-felt beautiful chaos.

read more cock rapist.


HA HA HA

i just lost so much respect for you.

sarramkrop 03.09.2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
shut up....nirvana went beyond the music...the man...kurt cobain..created that heart-felt beautiful chaos.

read more cock rapist.

In that case , i am a better Nirvana fan than you are because i was there to witness the man in action before you were even born.Jesus!

contrelefuckingsexisme 03.09.2007 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trasher02
I though that Korn unplugged was pretty bad. The girl from evanesence(?) was just over the top.
But what do I know I'm just a man with a bag over his head.


i HATE evanescence
and I usually never cared for korn's albums

THAT's the point.

afterall i found the unplugged to be quite decent.

contrelefuckingsexisme 03.09.2007 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
In that case , i am a better Nirvana fan than you are because i was there to witness the man in action before you were even born.Jesus!


hahahahaha

!@#$%! 03.09.2007 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
shut up....nirvana went beyond the music...the man...kurt cobain..created that heart-felt beautiful chaos.

read more cock rapist.


by "cock rapist"-- do you mean that your manhood crumbled because a girl just slapped you silly on the internet?

that's gotta hurt! :D


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