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sarramkrop 03.19.2007 06:23 PM

What would you like the next Sonic Youth album to sound like?
 
Personally (and if i'll have enough patience for another one), it'd be interesting for them to do something less 'sonic' and more acoustic based, but not in the horrid tradition that this term has generally meant for bands suddenly switching from electric to more tamed atmospheres, causing the hidden limitions that high volume can sometimes hide to show. I have more in mind acoustic but in a twisted and subtle way, drony but with enough hooks that would demand repeated listenings.The fact that their side projects seem to work more than their more recent official albums in terms of showing a more refined texture in their sound could be a point of new start for them if applied to acoustic instruments.

Danny Himself 03.19.2007 06:29 PM

I've been thinking about this and I sorta agree with you on the acoustic front.

I'd like to hear some really nice Lee songs, acoustic and quite 60s pop in a way. Subtle drumwork from Steve, Kim and Thurston holding it down but all quite mellow.

I'd also like to hear a sonic first- and I say this in all seriousness- I want Steve to sing a song. I bet he has a wonderful singing voice. Kinda like the thing Moe Tucker did for V.U... cute, innocent, amazingly good.

Kim and Thurston should duet on a song, not too different from 'sweet shine'.

Mostly mellow acoustic pop from another dimension with clever electric parts. Thats what I want.

schizophrenicroom 03.19.2007 06:30 PM

i want a 90 minute cover of the human league's "don't you want me" complete with power drills ran through pedals in the background a la "burning spear".

i'm serious.

but i think an acoustic would be a new path. lee has always had a '60s vibe going (to me, at least) i think he needs to fully embrace.

sarramkrop 03.19.2007 06:37 PM

Probably what i mean to say here is that it would be interesting to hear them working in a more toned down mode. I generally think that something like that could be pulled by them if Lee Ranaldo was more at the reins of an entire Sonic Youth album but who knows?

clever name 03.19.2007 07:31 PM

The last album was a cross between Sister and Experimental Jet Set (bear with me here).

The next one should be a cross between Daydream Nation and Washing Machine. How stupendous would that be? Pull out the bass guitar, get really rocked up, and let the screechy sprawl just unravel!

Maybe that or a really great all-instrumental SYR-style record, but released as a major SY album and featuring a whole stable of their collaborators.

ohfuchsia 03.19.2007 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by schizophrenicroom
i want a 90 minute cover of the human league's "don't you want me" complete with power drills ran through pedals in the background a la "burning spear". .


that's fantastic!

Dead-Air 03.19.2007 09:53 PM

I think they've been moving in a consciously "accessible" direction long enough. I'd like them to make the sort of break they did when they put out Washing Machine, which was kind of a return to being Sonic Youth first after the attempts at success of Dirty and EJT&NS.

This is not to say I'm putting down the accessible records, as there is much I still love about them. However, I'm ready for them to pull out the stops again. I won't say how, because I don't think it's my place as a listener to decide that. I want them to surprise the fuck out of me.

Everyneurotic 03.19.2007 10:00 PM

i'd like them to play whatever they feel like doing.

that said, this last album was more about exploring vocal melodies, i think that, having touched that area, and taking into account that both thurston and lee are going to explore similar sounds on their forthcoming solo albums, they would get more into the music rather than the vocals, extending things up.

and, personally, i would like to see them explore something they have never done before. bring the experimental vibe on.

screamingskull 03.20.2007 05:46 AM

like Murray Street. Not as polished as they sound now.

sonicl 03.20.2007 05:52 AM

Something almost classical - One 80 minute instrumental piece, not improvised, moving through various phases and musical types to make a symphonic whole.

andrei 03.20.2007 06:06 AM

NYC Ghosts And Flowers drony, partial improvised w/ lyrics by lee and w/ Jim O'Rourke's power electronics.

atsonicpark 03.20.2007 09:21 AM

sonic o)))

silverfreepress (sdasher) 03.20.2007 09:29 AM

You've got the band rehersing Daydream Nation right now with that material so fresh+new pieces might work in sync with that album or maybe be a complete riot against such long pieces or no take at all. Hmmm sweet confusion.

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 10:40 AM

hm well mirror/dash played acoustic guitars when i saw them. so i think it's not farfetched. though it was mostly feedback.

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sonic o)))


ha ha that would be kinda cool

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Originally Posted by sonicl
Something almost classical - One 80 minute instrumental piece, not improvised, moving through various phases and musical types to make a symphonic whole.


i think they used to call that "emerson lake & palmer" :D

michael-ebers 03.20.2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
hm well mirror/dash played acoustic guitars when i saw them. so i think it's not farfetched. though it was mostly feedback.


ha ha that would be kinda cool


i think they used to call that "emerson lake & palmer" :D


More lee songs! like "genetic kiss" or "karen revisited", another "diamond sea" and some kim songs in the tradition of "the sprawl" or "dude ranch nurse". but actually, i love every album and i canīt believe that the would release a record that sucks!

screamingskull 03.20.2007 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by silverfreepress (sdasher)
You've got the band rehersing Daydream Nation right now with that material so fresh+new pieces might work in sync with that album or maybe be a complete riot against such long pieces or no take at all. Hmmm sweet confusion.


thats true, them re-touring that album might make the music they are currently writing more like DDN songs??? It might. :)

GrungeMonkey 03.20.2007 02:19 PM

It would be cool for them to do another album thats a continuous piece, like BMR, but with a more soundscapey sound like Murray Street/Daydream Nation... I also want more lee songs!!! He's not done enough recently. Also, much dirtier production than on Rather Ripped, more crunchy and fuzzy. And an increase in noise levels. But really I don't care cos they will make a brilliant album whatever happens.

SynthethicalY 03.20.2007 03:22 PM

Yeah, but he is doing other projects though. Thurston New Album is coming out too.

SynthethicalY 03.20.2007 03:31 PM

Yeah, I just need to get the SYR stuff and other crap. Yeah Lee is doing some crap, but don't know when he will be releasing his solo stuff.

ithinkimissyou 03.20.2007 03:48 PM

I'd just like them to try something different because I find Sonic Nurse & Rather Ripped, a little too similar.

Over the years, I always felt there was a definite leap in sound between any two back to back Sonic Youth albums; i.e. Sister & Daydream Nation, or, A Thousand Leaves & Murray Street.

Obviously those kind of leaps are damn hard for any band to sustain for a 25+ year period.

Really though, once they continue releasing quality new material I'm happy. Personally, I reckon the band going back through the Daydream Nation era recordings will have positive dividends for the next record....

We'll see

Trasher02 03.20.2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Personally (and if i'll have enough patience for another one), it'd be interesting for them to do something less 'sonic' and more acoustic based, but not in the horrid tradition that this term has generally meant for bands suddenly switching from electric to more tamed atmospheres, causing the hidden limitions that high volume can sometimes hide to show. I have more in mind acoustic but in a twisted and subtle way, drony but with enough hooks that would demand repeated listenings.The fact that their side projects seem to work more than their more recent official albums in terms of showing a more refined texture in their sound could be a point of new start for them if applied to acoustic instruments.

You know that does sound interesting.

I would like the album to sound like Sonic nurse again. Don't know why but the kind of music they made on that album was the kind of music they're supposed to make at this age.

drrrtyboots 03.20.2007 04:22 PM

Pure unadulterated sex.

something 03.20.2007 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by drrrtyboots
Pure unadulterated sex.

i second that

SynthethicalY 03.20.2007 05:52 PM

They all should get laptops and make noise out of that. Or they could record themselves conversing with strangers.

something 03.20.2007 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
They all should get laptops and make noise out of that. Or they could record themselves conversing with strangers.

it's already an album atleast the lap top part thom yorke -the eraser

SonicSam 03.20.2007 07:30 PM

Acoustic sonic youth would be fuckin boring.

sonicl 03.21.2007 01:52 AM

^
So you're suggesting that Sonic Youth are a one-trick ("noise") pony - Is that right?

greenlight 03.21.2007 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
and, personally, i would like to see them explore something they have never done before. bring the experimental vibe on.


exactly, hope that experimental vibe stay on every album. well, they love explore possibilities of guitar as an instrument.

sarramkrop 03.21.2007 05:45 AM

Whatever they do, it would be interesting for them to at a least incorporate other intruments other than guitars etc into their sound. It just gets a bit boring after a while.

sonicl 03.21.2007 05:46 AM

Moshe will support you on that one - he seems quite keen for Mats Gustaffson to join the band.

_slavo_ 03.21.2007 05:47 AM

I would appreciate them doing something like they did on NYC G&F. So, further away from "song" structures and more stretched-out soundscapes with high-quality poetic content.

That would satisfy me.

sarramkrop 03.21.2007 05:47 AM

Good choice! I'm sure he'd be fucking great on a SY album.

Dead-Air 03.21.2007 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by GrungeMonkey
It would be cool for them to do another album thats a continuous piece, like BMR, but with a more soundscapey sound like Murray Street/Daydream Nation... I also want more lee songs!!! He's not done enough recently. Also, much dirtier production than on Rather Ripped, more crunchy and fuzzy. And an increase in noise levels. But really I don't care cos they will make a brilliant album whatever happens.



Wait, Murray Street/Daydream nation are "more soundscapey" than Bad Moon Rising?? I think not.

fluxequalsrad 03.21.2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Personally (and if i'll have enough patience for another one),


you're arrogant

sonicl 03.21.2007 10:40 AM

Don't say stuff like that, you'll hurt his feelings.

noumenal 03.21.2007 10:47 AM

No singing, no drums, little noise.

sarramkrop 03.21.2007 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by fluxequalsrad
you're arrogant

Ouch, you bastard!! That really fucking hurt, maaaan!!

sonicl 03.21.2007 10:55 AM

Poor porky :(

 

hirsute_biped 03.21.2007 11:33 AM

i think leaving new york and going to nashville had some positive effect on washing machine. similar effects might be achieved with another relocation for recording.

hawaii?
thailand?
new orleans?

GrungeMonkey 03.21.2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Wait, Murray Stree/Daydream nation are "more soundscapey" than Bad Moon Rising?? I think not.


Ok, perhaps I mean that more in how it sounds than the sounscapey-ness of it... My bad.


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