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Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 09:03 AM

New Stooges Out today?
 
I read online that the new stooges album was/is scheduled for release today? Can anyone confirm? Mike Watt laying the phat bass?

tesla69 03.20.2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
...i recomend downloading it.


thats known as stealing

HairwayToSteven 03.20.2007 09:40 AM

Strange, I got my copy a couple weeks ago.

But yea, definitely save your money and download it. It's easily the worst album I've bought in a long time.

EDIT: More importantly, the new Low album comes out today.

gmku 03.20.2007 10:10 AM

I wonder if the local rock record store around the corner will treat this the same way they did the New York Dolls release last summer. About three weeks after the Dolls thing was out, I asked the owner if he was stocking it, got a blank look, then a surprised look, then "They have a new one? Well, I think we'll stay the hell away from that!"

And I've never ever seen it in his store.

I haven't seen the new Stooges thing either.

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 10:13 AM

today is the stated north american release date.
hmmm. may go give it a listen at the ol record store.

downloading is for suckas!

gmku 03.20.2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator


downloading is for suckas!


FO SHO!

sarramkrop 03.20.2007 10:25 AM

I've downloaded it and it's garbage as i expected it to be.

the ikara cult 03.20.2007 10:26 AM

I am yet to hear or read a single positive thing about this album

gmku 03.20.2007 10:27 AM

20 years from now it will be hailed as a lost classic and reissued on 280-gram vinyl.

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I've downloaded it and it's garbage as i expected it to be.


c'est vrai, porks? est-ce que tu veux partager?

even if it's crap i'm curious

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 10:50 AM

i too have heard it is straight up crap
then again, almost all of iggy's solo shit is CRAPPITY

cold metal (case in point)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVzcs9Ygb5Q

pokkeherrie 03.20.2007 10:55 AM

you can listen to the album streaming here, if you don't like downloading but don't want to waste your money either.
http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/luisterpaal/33641351
it's terrible.

sarramkrop 03.20.2007 11:00 AM

Are you trying to add insult to injury?

pokkeherrie 03.20.2007 11:02 AM

who?

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pokkeherrie
you can listen to the album streaming here, if you don't like downloading but don't want to waste your money either.
http://3voor12.vpro.nl/speler/luisterpaal/33641351
it's terrible.


thanks. i just started. sounds a little... bland.

has iggy gone the way of phil collins? :D

(no, cmon, not that bad!)

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
and poor people who shouldnt be denied art cause of lack of funds.


so you are calling the new stooges album "art?"
and MP3 LOW-quality caca is a proper medium for ART? I say nay! nay!

art costs money to make.

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 11:12 AM

i'm listening and it's not totally TERRIBLE.

iggy's voice is a bit way too fucked though. sounds like a 13 year old when his voice is changing almost. same songs w/ a different vocalist could have been lots better.

Moshe 03.20.2007 11:13 AM

Pitchfork gave it 1.0 rating!
Well, it is still better than NYG&F.

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Moshe
Pitchfork gave it 1.0 rating!
Well, it is still better than NYG&F.


ha ha, ha ha ha ha ha...!!

pokkeherrie 03.20.2007 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i'm listening and it's not totally TERRIBLE.

I think is is... the music's bland, his vocals are bland, the lyrics are bland. Like someone else mentioned in a different thread it sounds like a bad Iggy Pop album from the 90's. I had a great time watching them at ATP so I'm glad they got together again a few years ago, but this album really wasn't necessary in my opinion.

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pokkeherrie
I think is is... the music's bland, his vocals are bland, the lyrics are bland. Like someone else mentioned in a different thread it sounds like a bad Iggy Pop album from the 90's. I had a great time watching them at ATP so I'm glad they got together again a few years ago, but this album really wasn't necessary in my opinion.


yeah, as i progress through the rest of the tracks & find "free and freaky" i just feel bad for this outdated piece of rocknroll cliches.

sarramkrop 03.20.2007 11:24 AM

Even this horrendous thing could be deemed better than that:


 

sonicl 03.20.2007 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pokkeherrie
I think is is... the music's bland, his vocals are bland, the lyrics are bland. Like someone else mentioned in a different thread it sounds like a bad Iggy Pop album from the 90's. I had a great time watching them at ATP so I'm glad they got together again a few years ago, but this album really wasn't necessary in my opinion.

I haven't heard this new Stooges album, but I have heard "Telluric Chaos", which is a live recording of one of the reunion shows, and the new songs on that remind me more of something off "American Caesar" than they do of Stooges tracks.

hey alex 03.20.2007 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
i too have heard it is straight up crap
then again, almost all of iggy's solo shit is CRAPPITY

cold metal (case in point)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVzcs9Ygb5Q


this video is hillarious.


oh shit! First the dancing got me--- but then the giant brown thing flying on wires with the line "rust buckets in the sky" ohhhh shit

king_buzzo 03.20.2007 12:05 PM

i've seen it in the shop a week ago, but didn't buy it...

finding nobody 03.20.2007 12:29 PM

Damnit. Damnit. Damnit.
I downloaded it and it's way dissapointing.. (needless to say)
My hopes were high.
I mean, this is the same dudes that released Fun House!

Everyneurotic 03.20.2007 12:31 PM

the only good thing about that travesty known as the new stooges album is the drumming, scott asheton really kills if you listen closely; the drums are also the only part i reckon sounds like albini behind the board.

if this was released as "iggy pop featuring the asheton bros. plus mike watt" then it would be considered half bad with some ok moments, but it's a damn stooges album, are you telling me you are going to file this right next to funhouse and raw power?

it made me pray for kate pierson.

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 12:47 PM

well, that sucks ass. I was hoping the stooges were not too complacent and would show the kids how it is done. they may not have "it" anymore.
i was hoping the new breed would learn a thing or two cuz there is a LOT of mediocre sludge rock out there right now.

sarramkrop 03.20.2007 12:54 PM

But wouldn't 'the kids' learn better by listening to the original Stooges albums instead of listening to the dirge that they just put out? In their case i knew that it would turn out like an embarassing case of your favourite uncle trying to play rock n roll animal with his incontinence nappy on.

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 12:58 PM

very true porks, but a reunited stooges with a good album under their be,lts would rock the country and world and show them the real deal LIVE

sarramkrop 03.20.2007 01:07 PM

Funnily enough, i was talking to another poster a while ago about how Yow would get away with something like that easily (i think), and that is possibly because of my double standards. It's just that Pop is a little too old for that rock n roll thing now and from good grotesque it just feels like plain grotesque round here.I haven't seen them live in their reunited form but the same poster said that they were good, so there might still be hope for uncle Iggy & Co.

!@#$%! 03.20.2007 01:14 PM

i had to turn off that flash player with the album because it was annoying me. as a way of reparation i'll put funhouse in the turntable, because...

Everyneurotic 03.20.2007 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Funnily enough, i was talking to another poster a while ago about Yow would get away with something like that easily (i think) and that is possibly because of my double standards. It's just that Pop is a little too old for that rock n roll thing now and from good grotesque it just feels like plain grotesque round here.I haven't seen them live in their reunited form but the same poster said that they were good, so there might still be hope for uncle Iggy & Co.


it's not so much an age thing as much as it's about staying true to what they do, i mean, iggy's been out of it for like 30 years now, chasing trends and being told what to do, it's pretty hard to go back to that "don't give a fuck" attitude the stooges had when the bulk of his career is based on ill advices.

the proof that age has nothing to do is the reunion shows, everyone raves about them, they still can play and perform...they just can't be the stooges.

and the reason yow might come out and do his shit and get away with it again today is because yow hasn't done much of a musical career, let alone trying to stay relevant. in other words, he's still yow, whether iggy POP can't go back to being iggy stooge.

Rob Instigator 03.20.2007 01:38 PM

and Jake Johnasenn would never have been able to go back to NY Dolls (even if they HAD not all died) because of HOT HOT HOT Buster Poindexter!

sarramkrop 03.20.2007 01:38 PM

That' s very true but there's also the fact that Iggy Pop (more than anyone else in The Stooges) suffers from prolonged exposure in the annals of rock n roll, or simply that thin line from being popular enough to be known by a wider public but not popular enough to be overexposed in the media.The animal quality of rock n roll music has been attached to his image and records for such a long time and is something that helped sales of tickets for his gigs, records etc for so many years.Now that has lost any appeal because they are things that are generally expected by younger musicians who also rarely deliver like old Iggy was able to.Yow has generally inhabited a much more sheltered life, away from having his name and picture on so many musical and non- musical publications, therefore i assume that he would have much less pressure to cope with when he performs or makes music.


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