The way New York is marketed
 

Ive never been to New York, but one of the things that puts me off (apart from the fact i cant afford it) is the way its fetishised in adverts and stuff, its almost like the place is a tool with which to sell things. Whats you reckon?

well midtown is, and some of downtown in the wall street area

best bet is to ignore mainstream depictions of the city, it's a good idea to check out portrails of certain neighborhoods like the East Village with a strong boheimian past and much more fruitful then anything that Times Square can offer

Like London hasn't been fetishized to death in the same way? Or Paris?

It's kinda strange how many movies are set in Manhattan.

not at all, Manhattan has a population of over 1mil, and when you add the people who come into the city, it grows exponentially

but not only that, each neighborhood is like it's own city really, there are over 50 distict neighborhoods in Manhattan alone

But think about how many disaster movies are set in manhattan too. and blockbuster movies, it would be nice to see some set in another part of america for a change.

im not saying anything about those two places. Seeing as Sonic Youth are from New York, i feel that it is more relevent to this particular domain than London or Paris or anywhere else

Well, yes, it is used to market things coming out of that city, but my point was that I don't really see this happening with NYC any more than it happens with any other huge city known for being a center of style/fashion/music/art etc.

relative to other large places, no you are correct. My point is i find New York is the place that is used more than any other place in America, and seeing as we are on a Sonic Youth messageboard, New York is more relevant than any other place.

they should make movies in Texas.

well you know what they say, the bigger the building, the bigger the explosion

this conversation was overheard in the Fox Corporate offices

"thems building splode good there mr murdoch, can i get em greenbacks to make the new FOX feature?"

"well, if we can make people buy amercan idol, we can make people buy a jingoism, lets blow up harlem this time, USA, USA, USA"

"um Mr Murdoch, you're an Australian"

"Fuck you Larry, i'll make you cover the Democratic National Convention if you don't shut the fuck up"

"yes my liege"
:rolleyes:

chainsaw massacres, and shit? :p

Wasn't Thelma and Louise filmed in Texas?

naw partner, L.A. and Utah...um, what's the line?...

they's makin' a movie...Big Tuna-style...

What about Paris, Texas? I mean it has Texas in the title and everything.

and what about Arizona Dream?

ehhh? eeeeehhh???

Thought about that too (Paris, Texas)...promise.
but didn't write it.

I used to watch that one a bunch.

Outstanding performances....brilliant storytelling and realism...cinematography...my favorite Winders anyway.

And how about Misery, named after my home state.

ha ha ha ha

i do like verbal jokes. im one of those word persons.

New York is really an experiance, you should go.

+1

You shouldn't let NYs overexposure stop you from visiting one of the worlds great cities.

The "50 neighborhoods" in Manhattan kind of overstates it - cuz basically they're now just major subway stops with the same bunch of stores clustered around. I walked down by CB's yesterday and I had to look around, I felt lost for a minute, its hard to describe the transformation from a barren, empty stark area to sparkling new glass condos FOR BLOCKS around! Its not just one new building theres a half dozen. But the old is being replaced with the generic and cultureless. For instance, the old mainstay restaurant Kiev is being renovated into the "American Grill Bar" totally without any irony at all. Its the mall mentality come to the city: bland, unoffensive, unchallenging. Thankfully there are still some people who believe the way to success is to produce a quality product, not simply market a brand (unfortunately, these days the consumer responds more to a brand than quality). You have to go out to the boroughs to really find some neighborhoods.

What is the East Village / Lower-East Side like anyway?

Its funny that Sonic Youth are so closely associated with New York, for me their music evokes images of vast deserts and sprawling suburbs. Their new music certainly sounds 'New York' to me.

I've been to New York City twice and loved it both times, i would love to live there, not forever, but maybe 3 or 4 years. That would be amazing!

I went to NYC last February with school, it was mind numbing since all we did was the usual touristy shit (Empire state, statue of liberty, times square etc). It felt so strange when everyone else was screaming "OMG NYC!" when I was quite happy to stay in DC, seemed slightly more interesting.
Times Square really, really sucks.
I was actually a bit shocked to discover how indifferent I was to be in the places that are always on TV and seen as the centre of the universe, I did wish at the time to wander off and find some cool stuff, but the trip had no one cool on it...