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!@#$%! 04.11.2007 11:01 PM

Just heard news that Kurt Vonnegut died
 
fuck.
fuck fuck fuck.


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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/11/bo...-vonnegut.html

krastian 04.12.2007 12:01 AM

Sad indeed.....what a voice.

startur 04.12.2007 12:04 AM

i am so saddened by this news... i can't believe it. and it wasn't even from lung cancer

foxforce5 04.12.2007 12:08 AM

How is this sad - aside from him having to live for 84 years?

luxinterior 04.12.2007 12:12 AM

I am sad. Shocked, no. But very sad, especially when I think about all of the people I know who also love his writing.

!@#$%! 04.12.2007 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foxforce5
How is this sad - aside from him having to live for 84 years?


well, i owe the man some brilliant hours of bookish joy and for that he has my eternal gratitude and affection.

at 84 he was very lucid, and an outspoken and harsh critic of u.s. foreign policy. he died because he fell & suffered brain injuries-- it wasn't like he just faded away. he could have been around a bit longer.

so it's sad for me. sort of like a grandfather going-- i do love books and the people who write them.

SynthethicalY 04.12.2007 12:20 AM

I have yet to read any of his works. But I am sadden when a literary figure who has influenced the literary world dies. May his soul rest in peace.

!@#$%! 04.12.2007 12:21 AM

mumbles something..

alteredcourse 04.12.2007 12:51 AM

(from the posted article )

His last book concludes with a poem written by Mr. Vonnegut called “Requiem,” which has these closing lines:

When the last living thing
has died on account of us,
how poetical it would be
if Earth could say,
in a voice floating up
perhaps
from the floor
of the Grand Canyon,
“It is done.”
People did not like it here.



Heartbreaking loss . His writing is treasured .

hey alex 04.12.2007 01:40 AM

*_____*

oh no! For some reason I never expected Vonnegut to die- He seemed to a grasp beyond... but alas his mortality.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 04.12.2007 01:44 AM

you know whats really... weird...

earlier today i was googling that "everything was beautiful and nothing hurt" quote.

wow... r.i.p.

jon boy 04.12.2007 03:17 AM

very sad news, a sad day.

pao-lino 04.12.2007 06:25 AM

this is sad. he's my favourite writer ever. I read all of his book and he's kind of a guru for me.
I suggest, to remember him:
Sirens of Titan
Galapagos
Player Piano
TimeQuake.


He thought me really very much.
After reading galapagos me and some friends of mine put up a musical show based on the novel.
He died for brain injuries due to a domestic accident. I wonder what happened... A ridiculous death would greatly fit in his character.
He would laugh.

RdTv 04.12.2007 07:46 AM

I heard about it this morning early, when I was taking care of Vaughn....

I'd say my favorite two of his books are Galapagos and Sirens of Titan, loved the wit and satirical style he embodied.

atari 2600 04.12.2007 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegmama
SO IT GOES... Oh man, Robert (Instigator) is going to be totally bummed.
RIP Kurt V.


Well, on the bright side, today is David Letterman's birthday.

tesla69 04.12.2007 08:39 AM

I never liked his stuff enough to read it on my own, but the stuff they made us read in school was okay and should be read by anyone with half a brain. They don't make writers like him anymore.

floatingslowly 04.12.2007 08:49 AM

I will continue to eat my Breakfast of Champions in his honor.

:(

Quote:

BUTTHOLES LOOK LIKE THIS:
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Rob Instigator 04.12.2007 09:03 AM

This is the worst expected news. It was only a matter of time, but FUCK. My surrogate father is gone. The only hero I have ever had. I am severely sad about this. We have lost an american genius, a man who in these times we need more than ever.
Here is a link to an intervuiew he did in 2005 with PBS' show NOW

floatingslowly 04.12.2007 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
It was only a matter of time, but FUCK. My surrogate father is gone. The only hero I have ever had. I am severely sad about this.


I almost feel more bad for you than him...


right now he's about to start getting it on with the next batch of astral virgins. the first 99 are surely too sore to continue.

Rob Instigator 04.12.2007 09:44 AM

In 50 years I predict his work will be studied like Mark Twain is.
a true american original.
Now they are all dead. Bukowski, Vonnegut, Asimov, Hunter Thompson
all my favorite writers are dead. fuck I feel old.
from the NY Times Obit

He also shared with Twain a profound pessimism. “Mark Twain,” Mr. Vonnegut wrote in his 1991 book, “Fates Worse Than Death” “finally stopped laughing at his own agony and that of those around him. He denounced life on this planet as a crock. He died.”

Katy 04.12.2007 11:53 AM

As half the internet seems to be saying... so it goes.

Nice going, God!

LittlePuppetBoy 04.12.2007 01:06 PM

Damn. I was hoping he would live long enough to see my movie adaptation of Galapagos (in another 15-20 years............maybe)

Rob Instigator 04.12.2007 02:20 PM

On pages 9 and 10 of his book Bagombo Snuff Box: Uncollected Short Fiction, Vonnegut listed eight rules for writing a short story:
1. Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that he or she will not feel the time was wasted.
2. Give the reader at least one character he or she can root for.
3. Every character should want something, even if it is only a glass of water.
4. Every sentence must do one of two things -- reveal character or advance the action.
5. Start as close to the end as possible.
6. Be a sadist. No matter how sweet and innocent your leading characters, make awful things happen to them -- in order that the reader may see what they are made of.
7. Write to please just one person. If you open a window and make love to the world, so to speak, your story will get pneumonia.
8. Give your readers as much information as possible as soon as possible. To heck with suspense. Readers should have such complete understanding of what is going on, where and why, that they could finish the story themselves, should cockroaches eat the last few pages.

Silent Dan Speaks 04.12.2007 02:26 PM

I was going to see him give a talk and quite possibly meet him in 3 weeks.

I'm so mad I never got that chance.

He was my favorite author too.

!@#$%! 04.12.2007 02:31 PM

when i was a little kid i spotted on tv this weird-ass movie that i totally loved... it switched from place to place and you could not understand what went on but i did somehow and i loved the music. never had a chance to finish seeing it (was @ my grandmother's house & we had to leave) but it haunted me forever. sure enough it turned out to be slaughterhouse five, and that's how i became interested in his books.

another time i was in this israeli kibbutz and besides the drinking and the making out w/ global girls there was not much going on-- fortunatelly someone had donated a bunch of vonnegut books to their library-- mother night i think was so brilliant, especially when he analyzes the mentality of the american working class vs. the british.

Iain 04.12.2007 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
besides the drinking and the making out w/ global girls there was not much going on


Oh, oh...my heart bleeds! What a torrid time that must have been! How did you ever cope you poor lamb!

Пятхъдесят Шест 04.12.2007 02:35 PM

Saw that first thing this morning. I didn't realize he was sick to that extent. I saw him on Bill Maher's show last year I think, and didn't seem to be ill.

Rob Instigator 04.12.2007 03:19 PM

he had a bad fall a week ago in which he suffered brain injuries. he did not recover from them.
he had tried to killl himself in 1985.
he had to be taken in 2000 to the hospital because of smoke inhalation due to a fire at his townhouse.

Rob Instigator 04.12.2007 04:02 PM

When they were inducted into the National Institute of Arts and Letters in 1973, Kurt Vonnegut said of Allen Ginsberg: "I like 'Howl' a lot. Who wouldn't? It just doesn't have much to do with me or what happened to my friends. For one thing, I believe that the best minds of my generation were probably musicians and physicists and mathematicians and biologists and archaeologists and chess masters and so on, and Ginsberg's closest friends, if I'm not mistaken, were undergraduates in the English department of Columbia University. No offense intended, but it would never occur to me to look for the best minds in any generation in an undergraduate English department anywhere. I would certainly try the physics department or the music department first -- and after that biochemistry. Everybody knows that the dumbest people in any American university are in the education department, and English after that."

gmku 04.12.2007 04:04 PM

...so it goes...

!@#$%! 04.12.2007 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
When they were inducted into the National Institute of Arts and Letters in 1973, Kurt Vonnegut said of Allen Ginsberg: "I like 'Howl' a lot. Who wouldn't? It just doesn't have much to do with me or what happened to my friends. For one thing, I believe that the best minds of my generation were probably musicians and physicists and mathematicians and biologists and archaeologists and chess masters and so on, and Ginsberg's closest friends, if I'm not mistaken, were undergraduates in the English department of Columbia University. No offense intended, but it would never occur to me to look for the best minds in any generation in an undergraduate English department anywhere. I would certainly try the physics department or the music department first -- and after that biochemistry. Everybody knows that the dumbest people in any American university are in the education department, and English after that."


haa hahahahaha

hilarious

gmku 04.12.2007 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
When they were inducted into the National Institute of Arts and Letters in 1973, Kurt Vonnegut said of Allen Ginsberg: "I like 'Howl' a lot. Who wouldn't? It just doesn't have much to do with me or what happened to my friends. For one thing, I believe that the best minds of my generation were probably musicians and physicists and mathematicians and biologists and archaeologists and chess masters and so on, and Ginsberg's closest friends, if I'm not mistaken, were undergraduates in the English department of Columbia University. No offense intended, but it would never occur to me to look for the best minds in any generation in an undergraduate English department anywhere. I would certainly try the physics department or the music department first -- and after that biochemistry. Everybody knows that the dumbest people in any American university are in the education department, and English after that."


That is pretty damned good!

!@#$%! 04.12.2007 09:38 PM

this was by the way my first montana wildhack

now you understand why i was so curious about the book

 

krastian 04.13.2007 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
On pages 9 and 10 of his book Bagombo Snuff Box: Uncollected Short Fiction, Vonnegut listed eight rules for writing a short story:
1. Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that he or she will not feel the time was wasted.
2. Give the reader at least one character he or she can root for.
3. Every character should want something, even if it is only a glass of water.
4. Every sentence must do one of two things -- reveal character or advance the action.
5. Start as close to the end as possible.
6. Be a sadist. No matter how sweet and innocent your leading characters, make awful things happen to them -- in order that the reader may see what they are made of.
7. Write to please just one person. If you open a window and make love to the world, so to speak, your story will get pneumonia.
8. Give your readers as much information as possible as soon as possible. To heck with suspense. Readers should have such complete understanding of what is going on, where and why, that they could finish the story themselves, should cockroaches eat the last few pages.


 

"Words of wisdom Lloyd.....words-of-wisdom"


Other author's ideas on writing that are really good are Raymond Carver, Hemingway, and Flannery O'Conner. I have those printed out somewhere from my creative writing classes in college.

candymoan 04.13.2007 05:29 AM

everything was beautiful and nothing hurt..

we held a wake last night for grand uncle kurt, the salutation for the night was "so it goes" and i did say "kurt is in heaven now..."




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.
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i feel sad.. it was great to have him, he'd say something in an interview, we'd know he was there..


god bless you, uncle vonnegut
goodbye, blue monday
hopefully you're
lonesome no more...

candymoan 04.13.2007 05:30 AM

 


  • I am honorary president of the American Humanist Association, having succeeded the late, great, spectacularly prolific writer and scientist, Dr. Isaac Asimov in that essentially functionless capacity. At an A.H.A. memorial service for my predecessor I said, "Isaac is up in Heaven now." That was the funniest thing I could have said to an audience of humanists. It rolled them in the aisles. Mirth! Several minutes had to pass before something resemble solemnity could be restored.
    So when my own time comes to join the choir invisible or whatever, God forbid, I hope someone will say, "He's up in Heaven now." Who really knows? I could have dreamed all this.
  • My epitaph in any case? "Everything was beautiful. Nothing hurt." I will have gotten off so light, whatever the heck it is that was going on.

Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski 04.13.2007 05:32 AM

I talked to a guy in a bar once that is a writer and had met many of the famous American authors of our time. He said Vonnegut was the only truly funny one. Even the guys that wrote really funny books weren't funny in person, but Vonnegut was. His writing inspired me so much... to write in a style that inspires and reads fast/pleasantly at the same time. Literature wouldn't be the same without him.

We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be.

I am of course a skeptic about the divinity of Christ and a scorner of the notion that there is a God who cares about how we are or what we do. ... Religious skeptics often become very bitter towards the end, as did Mark Twain. ... I know why I will become bitter. I will finally realize that I have had it right all along: that I will not see God, that there is no heaven or Judgement Day.

Iain 04.13.2007 11:10 AM

Here is an old interview with Vonnegut which is an enjoyable read:

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/b...cle2445103.ece

Bunbury 04.13.2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!


another toothpick.

Massenvernichtungswaffen 04.15.2007 11:11 AM

God bless you, Mr. Vonnegut.

I was so looking forward to a new book..
Immortality belongs to no man.

godspeed


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