Is it just me or a lot of 'noise' being made is just infantile?
 

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Couldn't agree more. There's a lot of "music to upset the parents" doing the rounds.

Didn't we all do that in our youth?

I genuinely liked what I liked, but got a great deal of pleasure when my Dad saw my copy of Too Drunk To Fuck.

everything I listento from urge overkill to sonic youth to butthole surfers to codeine to unsane to cecil taylor to ornette coleman will offend my mom;s ears


she loves paul anka, the platters, the bee gees, peter cetera etc

to me it is ridiculopusly easy to get some people with instruments and "make noise", and by that I mean an incoherent thoughtless mess. I have seen several "bands" ion Houston trying that. I want to hear "songs" and I put that in quotes because it is a loose term to me. lightning bolt have "songs" Houston's own Rusted Shut has "songs". even the harshest stuff on CIS by the Youth has "songs"

structureless wanking disguised as a "noise" band does not do it to me.

Rusted Shut will piss off some parents for sure.

More like you saw this thread today
Dinosuar Jr - Beyond

which was followed up by this thread
Thurston and Coco in Dinosaur Jr. Video
less than an hour later

& this irritated you, so you thought of Coco and the remarks from various interviews that Thurston may have written some stuff with her opinion in mind and posted this thread.

bootlick, pt. 2

i really didnt hate my parents during my youth, my hate was directed at abolutely everything else around me. I dont see anything wrong with Rather Ripped being a more easy listen, its something you learn when you grow up - that things an people can be multi-faceted.

You're absolutely right.

*cough* speaking of houston, my band's playing there in may, you should come check it out /shameless plug.

i'm wondering what bands in particular you're talking about that would piss off folks' parents.

People take note - this will go down in history as the exact moment that I became middle-aged.

not long now eh?

Embrace it!

You should be able to pick up a few Phil Collins CDs in that Oxfam shop.

I felt that way mildly seeing the Blood Brothers from backstage while hanging out with Conrad from Trail of Dead (old school chum, I like his band only so-so). I could totally see what was good about the Blood Brothers, but I couldn't get it to move me. I was certain though, that if I was 20 years younger, I would probably love them the way I did Green River when I was (not that those bands sound anything alike, I'm just talking about the "young pissed off, slightly more intelligent than average, white guy" energy that is shared.)

As for what's considered "noise" these days being "infantile", I kind of figured out the other night at a house party that Crank Sturgeon played at here in PDX, what's up with that. With "punk rock" now a "jock" thing, the young rebellious kids (and I'm old enough that when I say "kids", I'm often referring to people into their twenties as much as teens) who would have been into hardcore a decade or two ago are now seemingly naturally into pure noise instead.

So there probably is something to the idea that people get into it in part to piss off others, particularly authority figures, and yes a lot of it is not very well thought out clone crap - just like was the case with hardcore. Of course you do have people who emerge from such scenes who are actually really good too. For every Minor Threat or Flipper you had untold dozens of really boring, close minded shit hardcore bands "back in the day", and so now you have the same thing for every Crank Sturgeon or Skullflower in the noise scene.

I was lucky. Being the youngest child by a good decade, my parents were far too savvy to get offended by anything. Now, I go to gigs with both on occasion. And, slightly more interestingly, they were the quickest to realise the genuinely offensive content of Prussian Blue, whereas most of my mates didn't. Am I lucky, or are all parents better than their children?

[NB I downloaded the PB album out of curiosity, and quite like it, and don't think they're any worse than Non or Current 93 (etc), and I have enough other records to assuage any accusations anyone might care to throw]

yes alot of noise is utter garbage, but there is some good stuff

I don't understand. You criticise noise music, and then criticise Rather Ripped, the least noisy SY album yet. Either way, noise is the new punk rock. Not in the sense that it is as good, but punk rock used to be good for teenagers to blast intheir bedrooms to piss off their parents. Now that that same music is being used in car commericals and kid movies, they need something else. And noise fills that gap.

Bravo. Unfortunately media pushes the idea that parents are dumb, and kids are way more on top of things and can make better choices. Most likely everybody's parents here have at least about 20 years on them, right? Wouldn't 20 years of life give you a little more experience, both in making good choices and bad, seeing the consequences of both? Sure, they may not always know what the coolest music is, but that tends to change each decade anyways. I think if kids gave their parents more respect and actually listened to some of the advice they may have for them, they could be much better off.

Me and friends play noise music in art all the time to piss off the other students who listen to indie and rave.

I once came up to my room and noticed papapa was showing my grandma my vinyl. I had forgotten to hide Songs About Fucking D:
They didn't say anything though.

insightful post... you probably won't last long on this forum

dudes, i saw crank sturgeon last week. fucking ruled!
and my dad was with me, so piss off!

When I was 15 I was riding in the car with my dad and I put on 'In God We Trust Inc' in the tape deck.. We got to 'Kepone Factory' and when Jello said 'Now I have these splitting headaches!!' my dad turned it off and said 'I can't imagine why!'

A nice idea, but not so. Rock 'n' roll wasn't 'invented' at all, it was a name put to a type of music that developed over a period of time.

And that's also the case for teenagers: rather than being 'invented', the concept of the teenager developed over (at least) a number of decades.

Cool! Where'd you see Crank Sturgeon at? He stayed in my house and played on my radio show here in Portland. Such a nice guy. My dad probably wouldn't get too into CS's music, but I'd be happy to have him and my dad over for dinner together.

I don't know about any of this. I'm not a music critic and I'm really learned in music, but I know what I like. Noise isn't my favorite genre by a long shot, but it's very interesting in theory and I like to see how people come up with new ways to make noise e.g. fashioning new instruments, edgar winter supercomputer shit..

To me, most of it (not all) sounds exactly the same and I wouldn't listen to it for as long as many here would. To me it's just a composistional part thats come into place in rock music now that's as commonplace and distorted guitars and leather jackets. I wouldn't listen to distorted guitars all day. Nor would I always wear a leather jacket. Because they're all just part of a big.. rock... quilt, I guess.

Infantile? No, people take this seriously and people do put thought into it. It's more about theory to me than anything else. But hey, prove me wrong, I'll be the first to admit I have no idea what I am talking about.

Fat Worm of Error.

Most infantile band ever.

They are fucking rad, though.

Meh. They are incredibly bland.

I would say it's probably just you, Porkie.

I like the name. Couldn't give too much of a shit about the music. A lot of it is so similar, it doesn't really matter which ones you listen to. Of course, there are stand outs and those are really the only ones I listen to. But I don't listen to too much noise.

yawn.

who really gives a shit. youth always rebelled against the older generations. jerry lee lewis for example........ im 32 yrs old and married with 2 kids, i just purchased another merzbow record. my dad is 61 and listens to cliff richard....... so what, imagine if kids listened to their parents music all the time, i mean every kid.......... what a dull and boring place it would be. my eldest is 6 years old next week and i would love her to have an individual taste in music rathr than listeniong to sexist, black eyed peas because dirty pop is acceptable by mass media...

do any of you know that feeling when a 5 year old girl sits in the backseat of a car singing "my humps, my lovely lady humps....." and cant understand why you tell her off? its fucking horrible!!!!!! i certainly would gladly let her invade my japnoise collection whenever she wanted....

music designed for kids..... razorlight, the feeling, arctic monkeys (even if i think they are a relly good band and have talent), babyfuckinglibertinekatesgorgeoustrilbywearingsmac kaddictshambles, orson, etc etc... all pseudo-rebbelious but still peppered with the charm which makes em palatable to parents to allow their kids to listen to em......

ALL KIDS, GO FORTH AND THRASH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY MAKE ME SMILE, THEY ARE DUMB BUT THEY KNOW IT!

Oh please, meh meh meh we are old our music is better and not for kids..shut up *holds up shield*

me?
i didnt ask a question..or give an answer

if not me
Hi sarram

wow reading this makes me think "man, i have kool parents!" my parents are way kooler than i am.