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doctor dan 04.24.2006 11:22 AM

rather ripped cover: a change in direction
 
i may be mistaken here, but it seems rather ripped is the first one of their major album releases for a while that seems to use artwork that was designed specifically for the record. most of them (apart from maybe ejt&ns and washing machine) have used selections of artworks, or works done by their friends. is this again perhaps symbollic of a commercial slant to the record, or am i delving too deeply into it? at any rate, id like to thank the band for introducing me to the work of gerhard richter and mike kelly...

silverfreepress (sdasher) 04.24.2006 11:39 AM

I don't think its a commercial slant, I mean its not a pretty cover its a hard core cover but hell that's subjective hard core can be pretty to people just as puppies can be.

I think it brings more attention to the music it being a in house cover. For reviews. No ink will be spilled talking about any other artist other than the four responsible for the music





and i'm also wouldn't be surprised if theres an alternate cover with a candid picture of Dan Rather of cbs, drunk. Rather, Ripped so to speak.


ok maybe not, maybe




I don't this cover is less artistic than any other before it just cuz its two tone. Look at Psycho, Hitchcock only needed black and white. Who's is the artist for RR?

alyasa 04.24.2006 11:47 AM

is that black lace on a blood red background? with 'Rather Ripped' in red superimposed over a black hole, ripped out of the lace? It is, isn't it?

FruitLoop 04.24.2006 12:21 PM

yeah but...

i got into richard pettibon thanks to the goo art
i got into richard kern thanks to the youth
though not mike kelley, that was through paul mccarthy

anyway sometimes their artwork makes you discover artists that take a significance in yr life. not sure about rather ripped though. we'll see....

alyasa 04.24.2006 01:18 PM

it seems almost perversely sexual...

AllHandsOnTheBigOne 04.24.2006 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
it seems almost perversely sexual...


Really? I think it's more violent than anything.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 04.24.2006 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllHandsOnTheBigOne
Really? I think it's more violent than anything.


i agree

Everyneurotic 04.24.2006 02:41 PM

hardcore cover my ass.

well, it probably looks "hardcore" to the fall out boy/good charlotte crowds...

punk doesn't mean lazy and uninspired

this is probably their blandest cover ever

Everyneurotic 04.24.2006 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FruitLoop
...i got into richard pettibon thanks to the goo art...


he's name is raymond pettibon, not richard

PAULYBEE2656 04.24.2006 03:04 PM

i like the artwork tho. its kinda..... post something. but yeah i get what everyone is saying. i liked the first rumoured cover, the one with the eye make up mirror....

selkcip 04.24.2006 03:07 PM

i like that it's basic, but the style (industrial fasion) of it is kinda gay

HairwayToSteven 04.24.2006 03:11 PM

I think the cover is pretty bland. Kind of a let down really.

selkcip 04.24.2006 03:22 PM

i like that it's no indication of what the album sounds like. if it is in fact the official cover

AllHandsOnTheBigOne 04.24.2006 06:00 PM

Whatever, it's an album cover. Stick a cartoon nurse on it and people will lap it up.

alyasa 04.25.2006 12:04 AM

It does seem to denote a certain atmosphere of violence... Especially with all the ripping... Maybe the violence is more of the emotional nature? Violent, passionate emotions?

I ripped your heart out from your chest/replaced it with a grenade blast...

That's from Incinerate...

Everyneurotic 04.25.2006 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by alyasa
...I ripped your heart out from your chest/replaced it with a grenade blast...

That's from Incinerate...


so this is sonic youth's emo album

alyasa 04.25.2006 02:25 AM

Maybe it's Sonic Youth's emo-transcendental album

holy-reverb!! 04.25.2006 03:13 PM

its anything but "emo"

FruitLoop 04.25.2006 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
he's name is raymond pettibon, not richard


Hey, thanks for the heads up. Probably a freudian slip on Richard Kern. Or Terry Richardson... funnily enough I got to see 2 of his art at the Statens Museums for Kunst last weekend.

Cooley 04.25.2006 05:56 PM

___-___-
 
Steve: "Hey, Thurston...some of these guys on the message board say they don't like the new album cover."

Thurston: "Oh, yeah?"

Steve: "You think we should change it?"

Thurston: "What?"

schizophrenicroom 04.25.2006 05:57 PM

I like it. It still doesn't look like most shit out there.

Maybe they're just being hella-ironic. Knowing SY..

toxic johnny 04.26.2006 07:26 AM

Okay so I've cracked it... it's been driving me crazy for weeks... I knew that I'd seen the Rather Ripped cover somewhere before... or something similar, it wasn't until I saw the b+w version that it clicked. It is definitely the work of Christopher Wool... I have a catalogue of his collaboration with Harmony Korine called 'Pass The Bitch Chicken' from 2001 (one for HaydenAsche) and look what I found...
 

 

now look at the image from the Kung Fu site.
 

Christopher is mostly known for his large text paintings.
 

here's a short biography...http://www.ubs.com/4/artcollection/t...phy/index.html
So they have kept the grand tradition of working with, or including work of (predominantly East Coast) artists on their album covers alive!
Thank Mary-Christ.

chabib 04.26.2006 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctor dan
i may be mistaken here, but it seems rather ripped is the first one of their major album releases for a while that seems to use artwork that was designed specifically for the record. most of them (apart from maybe ejt&ns and washing machine) have used selections of artworks, or works done by their friends. is this again perhaps symbollic of a commercial slant to the record, or am i delving too deeply into it? at any rate, id like to thank the band for introducing me to the work of gerhard richter and mike kelly...



nope. like i said in the other thread, it's a referential work just like the other recent covers. it's based on a christopher wool painting. i still don't like the cover at all.

chabib 04.26.2006 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxic johnny
Okay so I've cracked it... it's been driving me crazy for weeks... I knew that I'd seen the Rather Ripped cover somewhere before... or something similar, it wasn't until I saw the b+w version that it clicked. It is definitely the work of Christopher Wool... I have a catalogue of his collaboration with Harmony Korine called 'Pass The Bitch Chicken' from 2001 (one for HaydenAsche) and look what I found...
 

 

now look at the image from the Kung Fu site.
 

Christopher is mostly known for his large text paintings.
 

here's a short biography...http://www.ubs.com/4/artcollection/t...phy/index.html
So they have kept the grand tradition of working with, or including work of (predominantly East Coast) artists on their album covers alive!
Thank Mary-Christ.


exactly. like i said last week.

hambu hodo 04.26.2006 02:45 PM

i love the title "rather ripped" and i was hoping for a cover with a little more humour to it.

i think i would like the cover a lot better if it was white and black instead of red and black.

Fox 04.26.2006 03:24 PM

I like the cover but I don't think it really suits to the album (at least to what I've heard of it, meaning Incinerate, Reena, Do You Believe in Rapture? and live versions of Rats, Turquoise Boy, Sleepin' Around and Lights Out)

kingcoffee 04.27.2006 12:44 PM

I noticed that the cover art is not exactly characteristic of Sonic Youth. Seems more like a punk or metal bands kind of cover. But whatever. It's what is inside is what counts the most.

doctor dan 04.27.2006 01:35 PM

fantastic, i stand corrected! my apologies to christopher wool. maybe its because the text is so prominent in the desig, which they dont normally do.

chabib 04.30.2006 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doctor dan
fantastic, i stand corrected! my apologies to christopher wool. maybe its because the text is so prominent in the desig, which they dont normally do.


i still think it's too bad that the designer didn't spend the time cutting out his own fucking stencils instead of just using one of house industries fonts. L-A-Z-Y.

Washing Machine 05.03.2006 12:29 PM

The covers okay! But i want more traditional Iconic covers from SY like Daydream Nation or Bad Moon Rising. Their music goes from strength to strength, but their covers are fast becoming really lame! I havent liked a SY cover since Dirty (apart from the SYR covers, they are amazing!)

AllHandsOnTheBigOne 05.03.2006 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washing Machine
The covers okay! But i want more traditional Iconic covers from SY like Daydream Nation or Bad Moon Rising. Their music goes from strength to strength, but their covers are fast becoming really lame! I havent liked a SY cover since Dirty (apart from the SYR covers, they are amazing!)


Washing Machine has a great cover.

Washing Machine 05.03.2006 02:07 PM

Washing Machine was interesting, but it isnt a iconic cover like Daydream Nation. The image of a candle in a dark corner is so haunting and speaks volumes


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