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FruitLoop 04.30.2006 09:25 AM

Country music?
 
For some reason the only genre of music that truly repels me is country. With the obvious exception of Johnny Cash. But I mean the current country music scene....

So does anybody here actully like the stuff, or have any suggestions?

finding nobody 04.30.2006 09:46 AM

comtemporary country sucks. it's repetative, and it's not even country. it's pop with steel guitars and fake southern accents.

i also don't dig much country outside of mr. cash. but i do love lorretta lynn's "van lear rose" album. and hank williams (not hank williams jr.) is great.

Incesticide 04.30.2006 09:51 AM

I adore Bob Dylan, Johnny Cash and Neil Young.

PunkerViolence 04.30.2006 10:08 AM

Neil young rocks...early stuff especially. I always get this vision of sitting on a rock by a lake, with hugge evergreen trees and snowy mountains in the mid 70s an chilling 2 neil young - priceless vision.

xpresswaytoyrskull 04.30.2006 12:50 PM

Neko Case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sonikold 04.30.2006 12:53 PM

cash
hank sr.
the carter family
loretta lynn
stoney edwards

i hate slick ass pop country more than any other slick ass pop music.

dietzer123 04.30.2006 01:00 PM

hank willims III is pretty enjoyable

sleep33 04.30.2006 01:51 PM

hank williams is great, cash is so overrated...

DemonBox 04.30.2006 03:03 PM

i've always liked Neil Young. And by recent c&w music I really like The International Tussler Society. It's Motorpsycho's side project. And Frank Black's new album, Honeycomb, is a fucking awsome country-soul album.

krastian 04.30.2006 03:16 PM

I love old country.....not as much as bluegrass though.

segerandpriest 04.30.2006 04:09 PM

um, townes van zant
guy clark
jay farrar
gram parsons
gillian welch
waylon jennings
willie
jerry jeff

these are important people, methinks. 1970s country records, in particular, make me feel a lot better.

atari 2600 04.30.2006 04:41 PM

gram parsons

nice mention, segerandpriest
& jay farrar over jeff tweedy any day (aha tweedy got snubbed by segerandpriest)

lucinda williams & alison krauss are 2 that have been around a while but they are relatively "new"alt country.artists...also
steve earle, del mccroury band, whiskeytown, son volt, old 97s, & drive-by truckers are okay

hank williams, sr. is indeed good stuff.
flatt & scruggs, ralph stanley, patsy cline, willie nelson, john prine, emmylou harris, bob dylan, johnny cash, merle haggard...

FruitLoop 04.30.2006 04:56 PM

Hah, you folks are right. I like Neko Case (from some Mint records sampler i got years back, with songs from Meow), early Neil Young, and got into Townes Van Sant through the Big Lebowski soundtrack.

Yeah the reason I asked was because most of the country ppl get is like Dixie Chicks, Shania Twain, Toby Keith and all the shit on CMT - which, stangely, can be enjoyable while being very high or on the way back from raves.

noumenal 02.12.2007 04:01 AM

Dixie Chicks win big at Grammys.

Tokolosh 02.12.2007 04:36 AM

Love Hank Williams.

sonicl 02.12.2007 04:44 AM

I'm guessing that Glice will post here sooner or later. Whatever he says, I agree with him. He knows the good country from the saccharine.

Onani Nic 02.12.2007 05:21 AM

i'd also recommend townes van zant but other than that I don't know shit

LNC 02.12.2007 06:41 AM

calexico and handsome family are great. and uncle tupelo also

LittlePuppetBoy 02.12.2007 08:31 AM

Meat Puppets and Silver Jews (or would sj count as folk?)

Glice 02.12.2007 01:47 PM

There's lots of things been said already, much of it correct. I have a personal distaste for crock, and I've never got the appeal of Neil Young... a lot of that stuff just sounds like white boys trying to sound like rednecks (not that I'd know, being British)

Hank Williams is, to my mind, the utter perfection of short, simple songwriting. I've got the complete Hank Williams boxset, and there is literally two songs on there that aren't brilliant. The Hank Williams as Luke the Drifter stuff is among the most perfectly moribund music committed to wax.

I'm a bit biased on this, I don't have much interest in 'alt country', to my mind country doesn't need an alternative. I'd thoroughly recommend Laura Cantrell and, as previously mentioned, Neko Case. Not alt, just good.

The thing with a lot of it is, for my money, that if you're not into it, you're not going to get a lot out of the Kenny Rogers/ George Jones side of things, but it's really your loss.

For my money a lot of this new country comes from the evil that is Garth Brooks. Fucking insipid, lifeless bollocks. I quite like a few Dixie Chicks tunes, but they can go from fun and good to horrific bollocks.

Charlie Pride comes highly recommended, although avoid his 'there's a little bit of Hank in me', it's rank. Can't go wrong with Dolly, Patsy and Loretta as previously mentioned. I'm not near my record vaults, but I'll post back here with a few lesser-known names in a few days, if I remember.

Savage Clone 02.12.2007 01:58 PM

As with blues, I have found that if you avoid electricity in the music (with the exception of steel guitars), your chances are much better.

Glice 02.12.2007 02:12 PM

And drums. Drums are a bad thing.

EMMAh 02.12.2007 02:42 PM

The thought of country music gives me the shivers.

kingcoffee 02.12.2007 03:18 PM

I must say, I like some country music. But not the Nashville-pop scene with Garth Brooks (a no-talent douchebag, and I dont mind saying so), Keith Urban (who has nothing urban about himself), etc. etc. who think they're just good ol' boys and are in turn really making a fucking fortune of the stupidity and tone deaf ears of stupid white people. I like REAL country music: Woody Guthrie (more of a folkie), Bob Dylan (folk/country), Neil Young (folk/country), and yes the Meat Puppets do wonderfully as well.

I could just never understand the appeal of all this country music crap though. It's annoying Southern Drawl vocals, way too twangy guitars, stupid subject matter (drankin' and fightin' and fuuuckin' and beatin' yo baby's mama), it's just trite jackassery. But when Guthrie, Dylan and Young do it, it had soul, a genuine life force of it's own. Country western has the potential to have wonderful songs written, but so few people can do it properly. Every single time I see or hear a jackass on tv/radio singin about bein drunk and depressed I want to find out where they live and stab them in the face with a soldering iron.

eatmychild 02.12.2007 03:57 PM

Can't stand any country music.

Glice 02.12.2007 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingcoffee
I like REAL country music: Woody Guthrie (more of a folkie), Bob Dylan (folk/country), Neil Young (folk/country), and yes the Meat Puppets do wonderfully as well.



At the risk of sounding like an indie kid (on a forum full of indie kids), I wouldn't really consider any of the bands you mentioned real country. But, whatever, so long as you eat healthy and wear a condom, you'll get no criticism from me.

Savage Clone 02.12.2007 04:35 PM

Meat Puppets have a strong country influence at times, but I wouldn't call them a country band by any stretch.

kingcoffee 02.12.2007 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
so long as you eat healthy and wear a condom, you'll get no criticism from me.


uh oh.....

Rob Instigator 02.12.2007 05:37 PM

story about Charlie Parker

Charlie would sit in this bar where a lot of jazz cats would hang between sessions, and charlie would drink his drinks in solitude constantly going to the jukebox and playing country songs, back when country was country and western was western you know? he would play these songs and sit there and drink,a nd he woudl get a constant ribbing from his hep cat jazz buddies, who derided country music. They wold poke fun at him and ask "hey man, why are you playing this stuff? This nasal whiny cracka stuff?"
and Charlie would look at them and reply, "just listen to the stories man, just listen to the stories."
and he was right. Old country music, beofr ethe country pop pap that exists today, was about telling stories from the heart, stories that touched your heart, stories that described life as they saw it. charlie parker saw that and would soak it all in.

kingcoffee 02.12.2007 05:57 PM

But seriously, they may not be the real country as in they only perform country music, but I meant it in the sense that they are better country music composers than the shitty country-pop musicians I mentioned. Bob Dylan and Neil Young are great when they write country songs. Yeah, they were folky, and rock and heavy metal (N. Young), but they made much better country music than pretty much everybody alive now.

finding nobody 02.12.2007 07:19 PM

Merle Haggard was in Folsom Prison when Johnny Cash played there! Cool trvia

ToasterDude84 02.12.2007 10:59 PM

country is stuupid...

luxinterior 02.13.2007 02:36 AM

Most of what I've wanted to say has been said already. Hank, Johnny, Loretta, Dolly and that whole crew...speaking of Dolly, I was especially drawn to her as a small child. She is such a funny, clever lady.

I haven't really paid much attention to the state of popular country music as of late. The last time I really remember watching a music video on CMT, it was probably Shania Twain singing "Any Man of Mine." I wish she would do more songs in that vein.

I do watch the show Nashville Star with my mom. I probably never would have seen it had it not been for the fact that it plays on the USA network, and that's where I watch my Law & Order CI/SVU, so Nashville Star is hard to miss. I am mostly unimpressed by the people on that show, with the exception of Angela Hacker, who I adore. http://www.usanetwork.com/series/nas...ela/index.html

Around these parts (I've always wanted to say that) listening to country music used to be accepted and encouraged among the younger kids. But now, the only younger people who do listen to country music are just doing it for laughs, you know, like "She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy" and all that jazz. I don't even know who sings that. But younger people who proclaim to hate certain genres of music (really only country and rap) always seem to latch onto the worst possible example of each, and proceed to like it in an ironic way. And of course everything else in the genre "sucks," but they can make an exception for "She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy" because it's "funny."

I will never understand the greatest phenomenon of the 90s, otherwise known as Garth Brooks. The only time that I recall enjoying him was when my brother made himself a mix CD of his favorite gangsta rap songs, but had "Friends in Low Places" as the second-to-last track. I think it was sandwiched between "Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos" and some Eazy-E song I didn't know.

For some reason I like more female than male country artists. Maybe it's because with men, their singing "country" voices can easily turn into what sounds like farts. Farts probably isn't the right word...it's just this sound that I hear coming out of the mouths of the male country singers on the radio. It's like they try to put too much twang into their voice, and their voice isn't that great to begin with, so now it's coming out all nasally, and anyway, it just has to stop.

And I suppose I agree with the sentiment about drums and electric guitars, for the most part. It's almost like it wouldn't come out sounding so horrible if there wasn't someone going, "Well this sounds okay, but let's make it sound BIGGER!" That's how I imagine it going at least.

And I want to add that really sad country songs are usually 10x sadder than most sad songs from other genres.

sonicl 02.13.2007 04:02 AM

It's rather remiss of me really to have not mentioned my beloved Cowboy Junkies in this thread. I don't actually consider them country, but other people do, so WTF, I'll say it:

Cowboy Junkies are godlike.

Glice 02.13.2007 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luxinterior

I will never understand the greatest phenomenon of the 90s, otherwise known as Garth Brooks. The only time that I recall enjoying him was when my brother made himself a mix CD of his favorite gangsta rap songs, but had "Friends in Low Places" as the second-to-last track. I think it was sandwiched between "Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos" and some Eazy-E song I didn't know.



'G', the one that's not Warren, has been shit since forever. I heard his first album recently, thanks to a friend with a perverse humour, and it's entirely consistent with the rest of his career. With country, usually there's a spark of life in early stuff (yes, even Shania) but with 'G' there's absolutely nothing. He is the modern face of evil, truly.

Savage Clone 02.13.2007 03:05 PM

You know this one is Pure Country Gold.
 

Rob Instigator 02.13.2007 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
You know this one is Pure Country Gold.




 


that dude from the Spin Doctors is gonna be ramming lil' Julie on her 16th birthday, she will have a hard time sitting for a week, and he will ensure that she remembers his scrotum all on her forehead while she tickles his taint a la tongue technique. pervert.

Glice 02.13.2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
that dude from the Spin Doctors is gonna be ramming lil' Julie on her 16th birthday, she will have a hard time sittig for a week, and h will ensure that she remebers his scrotum all on her forehead while she tickles his taint a la tongue technique. pervert.


I'm so hiring you as compére for my wedding.

Rob Instigator 02.13.2007 03:33 PM

hahah, I showed my girfriend that recor dcover and she said this

he's saying "baby, you know i love you... but i can't afford to go to prison right now when my musical career is just picking up damnit, you gotta understand!!!!!!"


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