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gmku 06.22.2007 04:21 PM

Recommend some Coltrane...
 
I have a few things. I'm wondering what else is worth picking up. What are your favorite Coltrane releases?

Iain 06.22.2007 04:26 PM

Interstellar Space.
Olatunji Concert (warning, sketchy lofi tape recording but totally ace)

Savage Clone 06.22.2007 04:27 PM

Ascension is my favorite by a mile.

racehorse 06.22.2007 04:27 PM

i'd recommend his later stuff...
two of my favourites are the live in seattle record, and the concert in japan double LP.
EDIT. forgot about intersteller space. fab record

Iain 06.22.2007 04:29 PM

Olatunji is my favourite of the nadful I've heard.

finding nobody 06.22.2007 04:32 PM

Blue Train is epic!

Пятхъдесят Шест 06.22.2007 04:34 PM

 


First to come to mind.

Rob Instigator 06.22.2007 04:55 PM

I second Giant Steps. It is a classic.

Of course, get A Love Supreme if you have not gotten it yet.

Much of Mile's early stuff was with 'Trane. Round About Midnight is one of my faves along witrh WORKIN' w/ the miles david quintet

Lush Life is fucking awesome

Blue Train is also fucking wonderful


if you can find it, get the record DUKE ELLINGTON & JOHN COLTRANE

I found it in a record convention. fuck. two giants making fabulous music.

lungfish 06.22.2007 07:23 PM

check out My Favorite Things

listen to the the quartet's version of the title track.
McCoy Tyner's solo (3:59) as well Coltrane's insane interval leaps (10:16)
will make you smile. gorgeousness.

also, check out Coltrane's stuff with my main man Thelonious Monk ('Monk's Music' and 'Thelonious Monk with Coltrane' and of course 'Thelonious Monk Quartet with John Coltrane at Carnegie Hall') recorded when Coltrane was no longer in Miles' group, kicked out supposedly for his drug dependence and unreliability. Monk said, "Man, you don't need that kind of abuse," and Coltrane joined. They ended up playing the successful Five Spot run that spring and summer in 1957. Monk wanted Sonny Rollins at first, but Coltrane was the one available, etc etc. Many great recordings. Coltrane learned a lot from being in Monk's group.

gmku 06.22.2007 07:38 PM

Thanks. You guys rock.

How about Sun Ship? I see that one in the racks here all the time, new reissue, and it looks pretty sweet. McCoy Tyner on piano, Elvin Jones on the skins.

Torn Curtain 06.23.2007 08:53 AM

Crescent.

marleypumpkin 06.23.2007 03:07 PM

Live @ Birdland

drrrtyboots 06.23.2007 03:15 PM

Impressions
Interstellar Space
A Love Supreme

Dead-Air 06.23.2007 07:28 PM

Giant Steps for the melodic side, OM for the once a year over the top crazy noise experience. OM is more my favorite, but it's a commitment to listen to it.

el duderino 06.24.2007 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Thanks. You guys rock.

How about Sun Ship? I see that one in the racks here all the time, new reissue, and it looks pretty sweet. McCoy Tyner on piano, Elvin Jones on the skins.


Ive pretty much got all the commercially available Coltrane and Sunship is probably my favourite, possibly tied with Crescent. Definitely pick it up I say

jonathan 06.24.2007 06:23 PM

As much as I love Coltrane, my exposure to him is fairly limited.

I have VERY limited exposure to his later stuff... with that said...

A Love Supreme
Giant Steps
The Avant-Garde Coltrane and Cherry.

!@#$%! 06.24.2007 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I second Giant Steps. It is a classic.

Of course, get A Love Supreme if you have not gotten it yet.


seconded & "thirded" or however you say that.

nick2767 06.25.2007 01:39 PM

Just pick up anything and everything on Impulse records. That's the best suggestion!

demonrail666 06.25.2007 01:46 PM

Giant Steps. After listening to it, you may find yourself never needing to buy another album again. Well, that's bollocks actually, but it is really fucking good.

gmku 06.25.2007 02:09 PM

Thanks, I have Giant, actually. I'm needing more of his later, wilder stuff. I'm hearing Sun Ship call my name...

atari 2600 06.25.2007 05:27 PM

Coltrane lives on in the playing of Evan Parker.
He plays in London all the time. Funny how none of the London boardies like porkstuftd have ever mentioned Evan Parker before.
Instead they go on & on about fashion-plate bands & complain that Sonic Youth aren't cutting edge anymore in the meanwhile.

Thurston released "The Promise" with Evan Parker on saxes & Walter Prati on bass in 1999.

I just shared a recording from February this year with E. Parker playing with Paal Nilssen-Love's Quartet from FM broadcast in Stockholm.

The Bad Plus have been getting raves for their new one, "Prog" but it's just so-so even though that band is technically pretty good. Mostly, everyone seems to flip for the accurate "Tom Sawyer" cover.

You know, I watched a Glen Campbell concert from 2004 the other night and the man's gotta be over seventy. He still plays guitar great...
he was scaling along with this blue Strat

 



...and, of course, he sings his songs, (you know, real songs) wonderfully. But ah, how shall I put this? It was most disconcerting to also think of porkpounder and his posts about how he would love to lick Glen Campbell's hairy asshole. But what can you do? Some people have mental problems.

www.simpsonsmovie.com has a new create-yr-own Simpsons character feature patterned after the SP one.

 



You bored-ies could start a thread and have some laughs with it and maybe
!@#$%!'s blood will boil. He's that guy that loathes The Simpsons and has only seen his "favorite" movie (La Dolce Vita) ten times, and asks others (specifically demonrail666...why didn't they just PM? Oh, that's right, they were trying to impress you the reader) what to make of it because he has "homework" he's having trouble completing. But hey, every other person here is a copycat, so it's good times in the pigsty, I suppose. And demonrail666, he posted recently that he only listens to Sonic Youth once a year! Yet he's at the Sonic Youth messageboard. Something is not computing there.
Me, I always had to more-or-less make time to ever post here and it's something I will never be doing again. Sure, like most, I also came here to kill time at times too, but more often than not, I was going out of my way.

Anyway, I'm listening to the new Bad Brains that comes out officially tomorrow. It's their best since I Against I and easily one of the best new releases this year. I've been getting into reggae a good bit lately and listening to a lot of live Peter Tosh and Bob Marley and The Wailers, so this new Bad Brains came along at just the right time for me.
The Police's new tour sounds slightly off on two (Phoenix & Vegas) of the most recent recordings I downloaded, but the concert from Oakland is on-beat mostly. The new tour can't compare to the intensity they regularly mustered back in the day, but it's still very solid stuff and they perform the songs slightly different every night. Anyway, it buries whatever most listen to and The Police might just be the new best live band in the world. And hey, it's only three guys.

I came across something that made me think of this board and the people here that like to pretend that they are musicians:
Legion Of Rock Stars


WFMU points us to Legion Of Rock Stars, for which the rules are simple:
  1. A bunch of people put on noise-canceling headphones
  2. They all listen to the same song and play along
  3. The results are recorded and set to the original music video
  4. Hilarity ensues
Take, for example, the Stones' "Hang Fire"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptCwtbgIp8I&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Estereo gum%2Ecom%2Farchives%2Fvideo%2Flegion%2Dof%2Drock% 2Dstars%2Ehtml

Please resist any urge to quote this post and comment as I will not be replying to any rebuttal taunts.

---
The best of John Coltrane:

1 My Favorite Things (Atlantic, 1960)
2 Giant Steps (Atlantic, 1960)
3 Africa/Brass (Impulse!, 1961)
4 Coltrane (Impulse! 1962)
5 Lush Life (Prestige, 1960)
6 A Love Supreme (Impulse!, 1964)
7 Crescent (Impulse!, 1964)
8 Coltrane (aka First Trane) (Prestige, 1957)
9 Live at Birdland (Impulse!, 1963)
10 Blue Train/Soultrane (Prestige, 1957 & 1958)


Honorable mention:
(not specifically a Coltrane album, but The Avant-Garde was recorded by
Coltane, Cherry, Charlie Haden, Percy Heath and Ed Blackwell in 1960, and finally released by Atlantic in 1966.)


----------------------

The best of the later 'Trane:
(some of these were recorded years before being released)

1 Living Space (Impulse!, 1967)
2 Ascension (Impulse!, 1965)
3 Live in Japan (Impulse!, 1966)
4 Live at the Village Vanguard Again! (Impulse!, 1967)
5 Meditations (Impulse!, 1965)
6 New Thing at Newport (Impulse!, 1965)
7 Live in Seattle (Impulse!, 1965)
8 Sun Ship (Impulse!, 1971) (originally from 1965)
9 Interstellar Space (Impulse!, 1974)
10 Stellar Regions (Impulse!, 1974)

Pookie 06.25.2007 05:30 PM

I bet you said all that out loud as you wrote it, without pausing for breath.

Iain 06.25.2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
Coltrane lives on in the playing of Evan Parker.
He plays in London all the time. Funny how none of the London boardies like porkstuftd have ever mentioned Evan Parker before.
Instead they go on & on about fashion-plate bands & complain that Sonic Youth aren't cutting edge anymore in the meanwhile.

Thurston released "The Promise" with Evan Parker on saxes & Walter Prati on bass in 1999.

I just shared a recording from February this year with E. Parker playing with Paal Nilssen-Love's Quartet from FM broadcast in Stockholm.

The Bad Plus have been getting raves for their new one, "Prog" but it's just so-so even though that band is technically pretty good. Mostly, everyone seems to flip for the accurate "Tom Sawyer" cover.

You know, I watched a Glen Campbell concert from 2004 the other night and the man's gotta be over seventy. He still plays guitar great...
he was scaling along with this new blue Strat




 



...and, of course, he sings his songs, (you know, real songs) wonderfully. But ah, how shall I put this? It was most disconcerting to also think of porkpounder and his posts about how he would love to lick Glen Campbell's hairy asshole. But what can you do? Some people have mental problems.

www.simpsonsmovie.com has a new create-you-own Simpsons character feature.





 


You bored-ies could start a thread and have some laughs with it and maybe
!@#$%!'s blood will boil. He's that guy that loathes The Simpsons and has only seen his "favorite" movie (La Dolce Vita) ten times, and asks others (specifically demonrail666...why didn't they just PM? Oh, that's right, they were trying to impress you the reader) what to make of it because he has "homework" he's having trouble completing. But hey, every other person here is a copycat, so it's good times in the pigsty, I suppose. And demonrail666, he posted recently that he only listens to Sonic Youth once a year! Yet he's at the Sonic Youth messageboard. Something is not computing there.
Me, I always had to more-or-less make time to ever post here and it's something I will never be doing again. Sure, like most, I also came here to kill time at times too, but more often than not, I was going out of my way.

Anyway, just listening to the new Bad Brains that comes out officially tomorrow. It's their best since I Against I and easily one of the best new releases this year. I've been getting into reggae a good bit lately and listening to a lot of live Peter Tosh and Bob Marley and The Wailers, so this new Bad Brains came along at just the right time for me.
The Police's new tour sounds slightly off on two (Phoenix & Vegas) of the most recent recordings I downloaded, but the concert from Oakland is on beat mostly. The new tour can't compare to the intensity they regularly mustered back in the day, but it's still very solid stuff and they perform the songs slightly different every night. Anyway, it buries whatever most listen to and The Police might just be the new best live band in the world. And hey, it's only three guys.

I came across something that made me think of this board and the people here that like to pretend that they are musicians:

Legion Of Rock Stars






WFMU points us to Legion Of Rock Stars, for which the rules are simple:
  1. A bunch of people put on noise-canceling headphones
  2. They all listen to the same song and play along
  3. The results are recorded and set to the original music video
  4. Hilarity ensues
Take, for example, the Stones' "Hang Fire"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptCwtbgIp8I&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Estereo gum%2Ecom%2Farchives%2Fvideo%2Flegion%2Dof%2Drock% 2Dstars%2Ehtml

Please resist any urge to quote this post and comment as I will not be replying to any rebuttal taunts.

---
The best of John Coltrane:

1 My Favorite Things (Atlantic, 1960)
2 Giant Steps (Atlantic, 1960)
3 Africa/Brass (Impulse!, 1961)
4 Coltrane (Impulse! 1962)
5 Lush Life (Prestige, 1960)
6 A Love Supreme (Impulse!, 1964)
7 Crescent (Impulse!, 1964)
8 Coltrane (aka First Trane) (Prestige, 1957)
9 Live at Birdland (Impulse!, 1963)
10 Blue Train/Soultrane (Prestige, 1957 & 1958)


Honorable mention:
(not specifically a Coltrane album, but The Avant-Garde was recorded by
Coltane, Cherry, Charlie Haden, Percy Heath and Ed Blackwell in 1960, and finally released by Atlantic in 1966.)


----------------------

The best of the later 'Trane:
(some of these were recorded years before being released)

1 Living Space (Impulse!, 1967)
2 Ascension (Impulse!, 1965)
3 Live in Japan (Impulse!, 1966)
4 Live at the Village Vanguard Again! (Impulse!, 1967)
5 Meditations (Impulse!, 1965)
6 New Thing at Newport (Impulse!, 1965)
7 Live in Seattle (Impulse!, 1965)
8 Sun Ship (Impulse!, 1971) (originally from 1965)
9 Interstellar Space (Impulse!, 1974)
10 Stellar Regions (Impulse!, 1974)


1st paragraph = utter bollocks. I'm pretty much 99% sure I mentioned Evan Parker about a week ago and that wasn't the first time.

Savage Clone 06.25.2007 05:58 PM

The Bad Plus are awful.

!@#$%! 06.25.2007 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
Coltrane lives on in the playing of Evan Parker.
He plays in London all the time. Funny how none of the London boardies like porkstuftd have ever mentioned Evan Parker before.
Instead they go on & on about fashion-plate bands & complain that Sonic Youth aren't cutting edge anymore in the meanwhile.

Thurston released "The Promise" with Evan Parker on saxes & Walter Prati on bass in 1999.

I just shared a recording from February this year with E. Parker playing with Paal Nilssen-Love's Quartet from FM broadcast in Stockholm.

The Bad Plus have been getting raves for their new one, "Prog" but it's just so-so even though that band is technically pretty good. Mostly, everyone seems to flip for the accurate "Tom Sawyer" cover.

You know, I watched a Glen Campbell concert from 2004 the other night and the man's gotta be over seventy. He still plays guitar great...
he was scaling along with this new blue Strat





 




...and, of course, he sings his songs, (you know, real songs) wonderfully. But ah, how shall I put this? It was most disconcerting to also think of porkpounder and his posts about how he would love to lick Glen Campbell's hairy asshole. But what can you do? Some people have mental problems.

www.simpsonsmovie.com has a new create-you-own Simpsons character feature.





 



You bored-ies could start a thread and have some laughs with it and maybe
!@#$%!'s blood will boil. He's that guy that loathes The Simpsons and has only seen his "favorite" movie (La Dolce Vita) ten times, and asks others (specifically demonrail666...why didn't they just PM? Oh, that's right, they were trying to impress you the reader) what to make of it because he has "homework" he's having trouble completing. But hey, every other person here is a copycat, so it's good times in the pigsty, I suppose. And demonrail666, he posted recently that he only listens to Sonic Youth once a year! Yet he's at the Sonic Youth messageboard. Something is not computing there.
Me, I always had to more-or-less make time to ever post here and it's something I will never be doing again. Sure, like most, I also came here to kill time at times too, but more often than not, I was going out of my way.

Anyway, I'm listening to the new Bad Brains that comes out officially tomorrow. It's their best since I Against I and easily one of the best new releases this year. I've been getting into reggae a good bit lately and listening to a lot of live Peter Tosh and Bob Marley and The Wailers, so this new Bad Brains came along at just the right time for me.
The Police's new tour sounds slightly off on two (Phoenix & Vegas) of the most recent recordings I downloaded, but the concert from Oakland is on beat mostly. The new tour can't compare to the intensity they regularly mustered back in the day, but it's still very solid stuff and they perform the songs slightly different every night. Anyway, it buries whatever most listen to and The Police might just be the new best live band in the world. And hey, it's only three guys.

I came across something that made me think of this board and the people here that like to pretend that they are musicians:

Legion Of Rock Stars


WFMU points us to Legion Of Rock Stars, for which the rules are simple:
  1. A bunch of people put on noise-canceling headphones
  2. They all listen to the same song and play along
  3. The results are recorded and set to the original music video
  4. Hilarity ensues
Take, for example, the Stones' "Hang Fire"...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptCwtbgIp8I&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Estereo gum%2Ecom%2Farchives%2Fvideo%2Flegion%2Dof%2Drock% 2Dstars%2Ehtml

Please resist any urge to quote this post and comment as I will not be replying to any rebuttal taunts.

---
The best of John Coltrane:

1 My Favorite Things (Atlantic, 1960)
2 Giant Steps (Atlantic, 1960)
3 Africa/Brass (Impulse!, 1961)
4 Coltrane (Impulse! 1962)
5 Lush Life (Prestige, 1960)
6 A Love Supreme (Impulse!, 1964)
7 Crescent (Impulse!, 1964)
8 Coltrane (aka First Trane) (Prestige, 1957)
9 Live at Birdland (Impulse!, 1963)
10 Blue Train/Soultrane (Prestige, 1957 & 1958)


Honorable mention:
(not specifically a Coltrane album, but The Avant-Garde was recorded by
Coltane, Cherry, Charlie Haden, Percy Heath and Ed Blackwell in 1960, and finally released by Atlantic in 1966.)


----------------------

The best of the later 'Trane:
(some of these were recorded years before being released)

1 Living Space (Impulse!, 1967)
2 Ascension (Impulse!, 1965)
3 Live in Japan (Impulse!, 1966)
4 Live at the Village Vanguard Again! (Impulse!, 1967)
5 Meditations (Impulse!, 1965)
6 New Thing at Newport (Impulse!, 1965)
7 Live in Seattle (Impulse!, 1965)
8 Sun Ship (Impulse!, 1971) (originally from 1965)
9 Interstellar Space (Impulse!, 1974)
10 Stellar Regions (Impulse!, 1974)


GUESS ATARI'S MEDICATION.
extra points if you also guess if he forgot to take it today


oh yeah. my blood is boiling. ha ha ha ha.
*yawn*
he thinks i care...

lungfish 06.25.2007 06:36 PM

anyway..

good to see basquiat out of the blue, literally.
currently reading
 


Rob Instigator 06.25.2007 07:50 PM

i love long posts

!@#$%! 06.26.2007 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
i love long posts


me too, when it's not all a bunch of lunatic ass talk.

although, for the laughs... sure!

sun city girl 06.26.2007 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
How about Sun Ship? I see that one in the racks here all the time, new reissue, and it looks pretty sweet. McCoy Tyner on piano, Elvin Jones on the skins.

yeah, definitely get sun ship, it's my all-time fave!

other good ones: om, ascension, olatunji, meditations, interstellar space, living space etc, or basically anything on impulse! but especially anything around 1965.

jon boy 06.26.2007 01:49 PM

for my money crescent is the one.

gmku 06.26.2007 02:35 PM

Crescent? I hear it's kind of mellow. I want wild, I tell you--wild!

Savage Clone 06.26.2007 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Crescent? I hear it's kind of mellow. I want wild, I tell you--wild!



Ascension, I tell you, Ascension!

gmku 06.26.2007 02:56 PM

I would, if it were in the bins. Only later Coltrane in the vinyl bins right now is Sun Ship. Crescent's there, too, on LP, but I'm jonesing for his later, freer stuff.

Savage Clone 06.26.2007 02:56 PM

Sun Ship is pretty wild.

gmku 06.26.2007 02:58 PM

I'll go with your rec, then. Unless I see Ascension. They're pretty good about keeping the Coltrane LP section stocked.

el duderino 06.26.2007 05:19 PM

Get both crescent and sunship duder, crescent is mellower but still an absolute masterpiece and together they'd make a very nice purchase. Crescent is definitely meant to be played at the stroke of midnight :)

sun city girl 06.27.2007 02:21 AM

if you want some crazy stuff then get OM!

Onani Nic 06.29.2007 07:07 AM

I bought this CD today and I'm pretty amazed.
 

I really dig all the tracks over the two discs. It's wild but not harsh at all.

Has anyone heard this one?
 

One guy told me it was pretty much heavy metal. From his description it sounded like something i'd like.

MellySingsDoom 06.29.2007 07:46 AM

Yes, atari2006 is back, back, BACK, and this time it's personal.

The last couple of times I saw Evan Parker was in a quartet with Chris Corsano earlier this year in Stoke Newington (excellent) and the the Arts Council-sponsored Noise thingy in London last month (turned out to be very good, and Evan was on fine form).

Coltrane recommendations - Live In Seattle, Impressions. Om and Interstellar Space.

Onani Nic - "Live In Japan" is a fanstastic document, and certainly worth hearing.

louder 04.01.2012 04:26 AM

bump.

i love A Love Supreme, My Fav Things (!!) and Giant Steps.
where should i go from here?


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