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SynthethicalY 06.28.2007 01:24 AM

2Pac
 
Do any of you boardies like him?

Norma J 06.28.2007 01:27 AM

Most definately NOT.
Never have - never will.

val-holla-ing 06.28.2007 01:47 AM

i have mixed feelings about him, but generally prefer biggie in terms of lyricism.

SynthethicalY 06.28.2007 01:48 AM

Maybe because i am west coast, I generally like his stuff. I think Biggie is most party stuff, but I haven't really listen to everything biggie has done.

val-holla-ing 06.28.2007 02:06 AM

you're definitely right, but i'm speaking just of wordplay. content is a whole 'nother beast.

Inhuman 06.28.2007 10:27 AM

Pac is amazing. Pure west coast genius. And yes val, generally east coast will have sharper lyrics, especially when it comes to the popular rap. Pac has a great flow and voice. All Eyes on Me is one of my favorite albums now

king_buzzo 06.28.2007 10:35 AM

no.

Chuck D 06.28.2007 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SynthethicalY
Do any of you boardies like him?



At first when Tupac died I felt sympathy for the man, but only until some weeks later did I start to piece together the puzzle. There's aliens out there, people, aliens! How else do y'all explain my theory, huh??
  1. 2Pac died on Friday the 13th...
  2. Las Vegas is a payoff City.. meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take.. that means doctors, press, lawyers etc
  3. The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?
  4. There's a small Black community on the North side of town.. This strip is only about 8 blocks long.. The attackers were Black.. Where did they go? Where did they hide?
  5. The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys. Many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witness...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not?
  6. The name of 2Pac's next album is Machiavelli.. He was an Italian war strategist who faked his death to fool his enemies... Perhaps 2Pac is doing the same thing..
  7. The cover of his next album has 2Pac looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection!?
  8. Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert.. How come there was no helicopter chase... If some one was to rob a casino.. The LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?
  9. 2Pac was cremated the day after he died... Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder... There was no autopsy
  10. There were no ballistic tests... At least we haven't heard about them....
  11. Las Vegas is still very much a mob town.. No one gets killed on the strip... You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen.. Who was calling the shots on this one?
  12. 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
  13. Suge said he drove 2Pac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was 2Pac hit? In addition to all this .. there are conflicting stories claiming that Quincy Jone's daughter was in the back of the car.. and then she wasn't.. what's the deal for real?
  14. 2Pac has completed 2 movies and 3 lps that have yet to be released.. With so many people upset about 2Pac's death literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...
  15. Suge Knight and 2Pac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death...
  16. 2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death ....
  17. 2Pac always wore a bullet proof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time.. why not?
  18. The memorial services that were open to the public were cancelled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta...
The time is at hand again people, got my raygun, zap the next one and all those aliens pulling the strings of this whole damn operation. You hear me? We gotta fight the powers that be. Remember children, don't trust whitey.

_slavo_ 06.28.2007 11:06 AM

1 pac 2 pac 3 pac four

welcome to the board, Chuck D !

flavor flav 06.28.2007 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck D

At first when Tupac died I felt sympathy for the man, but only until some weeks later did I start to piece together the puzzle. There's aliens out there, people, aliens! How else do y'all explain my theory, huh??
  1. 2Pac died on Friday the 13th...
  2. Las Vegas is a payoff City.. meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take.. that means doctors, press, lawyers etc
  3. The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?
  4. There's a small Black community on the North side of town.. This strip is only about 8 blocks long.. The attackers were Black.. Where did they go? Where did they hide?
  5. The white Cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys. Many of them body guards... No one gives chase and there are no witness...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not?
  6. The name of 2Pac's next album is Machiavelli.. He was an Italian war strategist who faked his death to fool his enemies... Perhaps 2Pac is doing the same thing..
  7. The cover of his next album has 2Pac looking like Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection!?
  8. Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert.. How come there was no helicopter chase... If some one was to rob a casino.. The LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?
  9. 2Pac was cremated the day after he died... Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder... There was no autopsy
  10. There were no ballistic tests... At least we haven't heard about them....
  11. Las Vegas is still very much a mob town.. No one gets killed on the strip... You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen.. Who was calling the shots on this one?
  12. 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
  13. Suge said he drove 2Pac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was 2Pac hit? In addition to all this .. there are conflicting stories claiming that Quincy Jone's daughter was in the back of the car.. and then she wasn't.. what's the deal for real?
  14. 2Pac has completed 2 movies and 3 lps that have yet to be released.. With so many people upset about 2Pac's death literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...
  15. Suge Knight and 2Pac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death...
  16. 2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death ....
  17. 2Pac always wore a bullet proof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time.. why not?
  18. The memorial services that were open to the public were cancelled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta...
The time is at hand again people, got my raygun, zap the next one and all those aliens pulling the strings of this whole damn operation. You hear me? We gotta fight the powers that be. Remember children, don't trust whitey.


allow me to interject..

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH BOYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Chuck D 06.28.2007 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flavor flav
allow me to interject..

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH BOYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!


That's right, my man Flavor, a rebel in his own mind, supporter of my rhymes. If there's one thing Chuck D loves more than classic hip hop and stargate, it's Flavor.

flavor flav 06.28.2007 02:03 PM

and if it's one thing ya boy flavorrrr flaaaaaaaav knows more than women who look like men who are really actresses, it's his main man, chuck d, boyeeeeeee!

Professor Griff 06.28.2007 02:07 PM

The jews are wicked man..

flavor flav 06.28.2007 02:09 PM

yo man...that's why we kicked your anti-semitic ass out of the group back in the 90's boyeeeee! next time you better come correct, kid!

FLAVOR FLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAV!

Professor Griff 06.28.2007 02:34 PM

Ya'll talkin some crazy jive. I never said nuttin bout no jews

flavor flav 06.28.2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Professor Griff
The jews are wicked man..

Ya'll talkin some crazy jive. I never said nuttin bout no jews


911 ain't the only joke, boyeeeeeee! one night only, we got professor griff, straight up! try the roast beef, haha!

random homie 06.28.2007 02:44 PM

Ima skeet on ya feet
cuz im l33t

random homie 06.28.2007 02:45 PM

Forget politiks and smoke some TREEZ
-Random Homie

flavor flav 06.28.2007 02:46 PM

Yeeeeeeah! Homie Da Clown In Da House!

AllHandsOnTheBigOne 06.28.2007 02:55 PM

Yeah, of course. One of the greatest rappers of all-time, easily.

greenlight 06.28.2007 03:52 PM

wtf? chuck and flav here? it's joke, is it?

Rob Instigator 06.28.2007 04:13 PM

I could never give a flying fuck about anythijg 2Pac rapped about. I just could give a fuck about west coast cali bullshit.

I'll stick with PE and Rakim and Gangstarr and de la and tribe and all that old shit.

I am an old fart

I predict that in the next few years a true hip hop underground will explode to do what punk did, remind people of where the roots of the music are from, and to inject a new energy into what has been for the last 12 years or so an increasingly stagnant, repetetive, and downright FAKE celebration of everything BULLSHIT. from bling to ho's to ridiculously expensive rented cars in the videos to multi millionaire rappers still rapping about the same rough and tumble "ghetto" BULLSHIT, even though they have been living in posh mansions for the past decade.

fuck it cannot get here fast enough.

Norma J 06.28.2007 04:31 PM

Word to the wise, brother Rob.

Rob Instigator 06.28.2007 04:39 PM

hip hop now, mainstream hip hop at least, is like rock in the early 70's, a bloated , lumbering, overly polished, reeking DINOSAUR

can someone please shoot puff diddy so we can then heaR ABOUT HOW HE WAS THE "GREATEST RAPPER EVER" JUST CUZ HE'S DEAD?

rappers better than 2pac

GURU
CHUCK D
RAKIM
TOO SHORT
SLICK RICK THE RULER
TRUGOY

Everyneurotic 06.28.2007 04:42 PM

i used to be really into him, but now not so much.

same with biggie.

AllHandsOnTheBigOne 06.28.2007 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I am an old fart


Obviously.

Rob Instigator 06.28.2007 04:51 PM

*poot*

Inhuman 06.28.2007 05:00 PM

Thug till' I die

val-holla-ing 06.28.2007 05:29 PM

he wonders why they call him "bitch"

Inhuman 06.28.2007 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by val-holla-ing
he wonders why they call him "bitch"


...You bet'cha!

Onani Nic 06.29.2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
rappers better than 2pac

GURU
CHUCK D
RAKIM
TOO SHORT
SLICK RICK THE RULER
TRUGOY


TRU DAT! except I don't know who Trugoy is....
Generally I'm more into rappers who are likely to make me laugh or say something clever than having some depth to their lyrics.
Which Wu Tang song is better? "Shame On a Nigga" or "Can't It Be All So Simple".

k-krack 06.29.2007 12:45 PM

Never gave a fuck about hip-hop. I do, however, like some stuff on the outside of hip-hop, expeerimental shit like cLOUDDEAD and the Anticon. collective, Ninja Tune records... etc...
What I'm saying is that Tupac is fucking boring and repetitive. I really see no difference between Tupac/Biggie and, say, 50 Cent. Same bullshit, different decade (and one is dead, the other is not).

screamingskull 06.29.2007 12:46 PM

although 50 cent should be dead.

Rob Instigator 06.29.2007 12:57 PM

50 cent had Jam master jay killed. You heard it here first

RIP Jam Master Jay

MellySingsDoom 06.29.2007 01:03 PM

Whilst not being a fan of either 2 Pac or Biggie, the Nick Broomfield film about their deaths was both fascinating and rather sinister. Suge Knight had the aura of a psychopath, and the most touching moments for me were the interviews with Biggie's mother.

As for mainstream hip-hop today, I pretty much concur with Rob Instigator's sentiments.

Onani Nic 06.29.2007 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-krack
I really see no difference between Tupac/Biggie and, say, 50 Cent. Same bullshit, different decade (and one is dead, the other is not).


Dude, comparing Biggie to 50 cent is like comparing Funkadelic to Red Hot Chilli Peppers.

finding nobody 06.29.2007 07:06 PM

Tupac had alot of good songs. Stuff with subject matter not typically found in the genre (to my knowledge anyway). He is definetly over rated. I'll PE over him any day of the week.

val-holla-ing 06.29.2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-krack
Never gave a fuck about hip-hop. I do, however, like some stuff on the outside of hip-hop, expeerimental shit like cLOUDDEAD and the Anticon. collective, Ninja Tune records... etc...
What I'm saying is that Tupac is fucking boring and repetitive. I really see no difference between Tupac/Biggie and, say, 50 Cent. Same bullshit, different decade (and one is dead, the other is not).


wow. what a stupid fucking thing to say. basically you're saying that you like hip hop that takes every element of real hip hop and makes it more palettable for people who are made uncomfortable by anything unfamiliar to them. doseone isn't a rapper and anticon isn't a hip hop label. i'd much rather see the likes of them dead than biggie and pac.

Onani Nic 06.29.2007 08:23 PM

Anticon are a bunch of no good crackerz!

val-holla-ing 06.29.2007 08:57 PM

well that's what i wanted to say, but i don't want to sound racist...again.


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