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fugazifan 10.15.2007 07:37 PM

i just watched wild at heart with david lynch
 
he came to the jerusalem cinemateque and he gave an hour lecture, but that was for film students so i was not there. then they showed wild at heart and he gave a 10 minute Q&A which i was at. he was amazing. to be in the same room as such a legend and to hear him speak was amazing. and my friend, who's whole life and dreams are all because of the inspiration that he gave her through his movies, asked him a question, and he answered it. and answered it to her, so it was like they weere talking.
her mind was blown
and i saw wild at heart for the first time
amazing.
my favorite lynch.

any other thoughts on one of the greatest directors of all time?

m1rr0r dash 10.15.2007 07:48 PM

damn it! i was gonna make some smart-ass comment since it thought you were trying to say you watched wild at heart BY david lynch. but no, you actually did watch wild at heart WITH DAVID LYNCH!

i hate you.

although, one time i went to what i thought was a screening of a rosa von praunheim film, but turned out to be a lecture given by rosa von praunheim.

atsonicpark 10.15.2007 07:53 PM

 



did I ever tell you that this here jacket represents a symbol of my individuality and my belief of personal freedom?

girlgun 10.15.2007 09:20 PM

probably my all time fave movie, although i dont really like anything (understatement) he's done since twin peaks. That truly must be badass to watch it with him. I am jealous. My cats are even named lula and sailor.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 10.15.2007 09:33 PM

Willem Defoe is so good in that.

The part where he gets her to say "fuck me," was great.

max 10.15.2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Willem Defoe is so good in that.

The part where he gets her to say "fuck me," was great.



one of the most disturbing scenes to ever see with your girl, also.

Lynch breaks everything, tears it all apart, and then makes us cry like babies.

Fucking genius.

girlgun 10.15.2007 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Willem Defoe is so good in that.

The part where he gets her to say "fuck me," was great.

Floatingslowly always tries to use that line on me :(

m1rr0r dash 10.15.2007 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Willem Defoe is so good in that.

The part where he gets her to say "fuck me," was great.



SOME DAY, HONEY, I WILL! ...BUT I GOTTA GET GOIN!

 

!@#$%! 10.15.2007 11:12 PM

wild at heart is superbly awesome.

did he apologize for inland empire?

luxinterior 10.15.2007 11:30 PM

While somewhat on the subject of Willem Dafoe, I sat through Body of Evidence in its entirety this evening...there are no words for something like that.

m1rr0r dash 10.15.2007 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
wild at heart is superbly awesome.

did he apologize for inland empire?



that depends... do you consider this an apology:

"I’ve never worked on a project in this way before. I don’t know exactly how this thing will finally unfold... This film is very different because I don’t have a script. I write the thing scene by scene and much of it is shot and I don’t have much of a clue where it will end."

!@#$%! 10.15.2007 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash
that depends... do you consider this an apology:

"I’ve never worked on a project in this way before. I don’t know exactly how this thing will finally unfold... This film is very different because I don’t have a script. I write the thing scene by scene and much of it is shot and I don’t have much of a clue where it will end."


yeah that's more of an explanation than an apology. i just want him to give me my 9 dollars back and pay me reparations for all of the 3 hours i wasted there.

ok, maybe i enjoyed 1/3 of that thing-- that still leaves about 2 hours i need back.

floatingslowly 10.16.2007 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by girlgun
Floatingslowly always tries to use that line on me :(


oh, don't jump back so slow. I thought you was a bunny!

bunnies jump fast. you jump back slow.

means something, don't it?

m1rr0r dash 10.16.2007 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
yeah that's more of an explanation than an apology. i just want him to give me my 9 dollars back and pay me reparations for all of the 3 hours i wasted there.

ok, maybe i enjoyed 1/3 of that thing-- that still leaves about 2 hours i need back.


haven't seen it yet actually... but i went to an all day screening of matthew barney's cremaster cycle (6 3/4 hours of straight up incomprehensible beauty) and then did it again the next saturday... so now i'm immune...


 


although now that you've warned me, i might have to take in the tulse luper suitcases as a sort of booster shot.... 5 1/2 hours of peter greenaway on the history of uranium ought to make anything david lynch can throw at me seem like a disney movie.

!@#$%! 10.16.2007 12:14 AM

ACK, MATHEW BARNEY. some things i love, others i detest. drawing restraint 9 i watched with a *cough* constant boner; the cremaster cycle, though it left me many indelible images of amazing beauty, was a fucking boring wank, wore than watching flies fuck. what i mean is: awesome stills, terrible movie. the 4th dimension is time.

atsonicpark 10.16.2007 01:54 AM

matthew barney is a fucking idiot.

atsonicpark 10.16.2007 02:01 AM

1. wild at heart
2. mulholland drive
3. blue velvet
4. lost highway
5. inland empire
6. twin peaks: fire walk with me
7. eraserhead
8. elephant man

haven't seen the other two.

m1rr0r dash 10.16.2007 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
matthew barney is a fucking idiot.


matthew barney is a bjork-fucking idiot.

fixed :D

!@#$%! 10.16.2007 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash
matthew barney is a bjork-fucking idiot.

fixed :D


that milllionaires shower money upon. oh the stupidity of that man!! where did he go so WRONG??

 

m1rr0r dash 10.16.2007 05:26 AM

i don't see anything wrong with either getting people to pay you ridiculous amounts of money to make surreal movies or getting in bjork's pants. actually they both seem like really good things to me. i honestly think if the media hadn't fawned over him so much, there wouldn't be this kneejerk reaction against him. back in 2002 when the cremaster show was at the guggenheim, and the films first screened, when he was just another obscure artist and not "that vaseline guy," everyone saved their contempt for damien hirst. now here's a guy who didn't just put a shark in a tank or slice a pig in half, he created an insane amount of sculpture, costume, lighting design, music, a whole inter-related series of mythologies, got richard serra to recreate 'throw' with vaseline instead of lead, climbed the atrium of the guggenheim while agnostic front and murphy's law thrash above him, filled an elevator cab in the chrysler building with cement, etc....

anyway, my only point is that he's just doing surrealism. straight and simple. watch un chien andalou again and tell me ONE thing that barney does differently aside from the scale and length of the work.

!@#$%! 10.16.2007 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash
i don't see anything wrong with either getting people to pay you ridiculous amounts of money to make surreal movies or getting in bjork's pants. actually they both seem like really good things to me. i honestly think if the media hadn't fawned over him so much, there wouldn't be this kneejerk reaction against him. back in 2002 when the cremaster show was at the guggenheim, and the films first screened, when he was just another obscure artist and not "that vaseline guy," everyone saved their contempt for damien hirst. now here's a guy who didn't just put a shark in a tank or slice a pig in half, he created an insane amount of sculpture, costume, lighting design, music, a whole inter-related series of mythologies, got richard serra to recreate 'throw' with vaseline instead of lead, climbed the atrium of the guggenheim while agnostic front and murphy's law thrash above him, filled an elevator cab in the chrysler building with cement, etc....

anyway, my only point is that he's just doing surrealism. straight and simple. watch un chien andalou again and tell me ONE thing that barney does differently aside from the scale and length of the work.


yeah yeah, i am in favor of your argument. perhaps the irony of my post wasn't too evident? or maybe i don't know who you direct this at. anyway, i need breakfast.

m1rr0r dash 10.16.2007 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
yeah yeah, i am in favor of your argument. perhaps the irony of my post wasn't too evident? or maybe i don't know who you direct this at. anyway, i need breakfast.


....ah. sleep deprivation made me miss the obvious. ....but i've had this discussion with other people in architecture school. and i just felt like a good rant.

!@#$%! 10.16.2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by m1rr0r dash
....ah. sleep deprivation made me miss the obvious. ....but i've had this discussion with other people in architecture school. and i just felt like a good rant.


ha ha. it IS a good rant.

on that subject, may i ask you-- what art publications do you consume? i asked this some time ago on the board & landed some issues of artforum, but i dont know... what's a good read, in your opinion?

i gotta go, so i'll check for answers later, but living away from all civilization i need to stock the art databanks of my brain somehow. before they go broke.

 


:(

m1rr0r dash 10.17.2007 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
ha ha. it IS a good rant.

on that subject, may i ask you-- what art publications do you consume? i asked this some time ago on the board & landed some issues of artforum, but i dont know... what's a good read, in your opinion?

i gotta go, so i'll check for answers later, but living away from all civilization i need to stock the art databanks of my brain somehow. before they go broke. :(


i totally understand... i felt that way for years when i moved from new jersey to atlanta (what? only ONE museum in this whole town?). now that i'm in small town florida, i wish i'd been nicer to that museum... visited it more often, let it know i cared....

as for magazines... artforum is great, pretty much all i look at in print, as far as art goes anyway.

artnet online magazine is my other source when i'm jonesing for an art fix
http://www.artnet.com/magazineus/frontpage.asp

i like charlie finch's column, even if he is the biggest stuck-up elitist snot on the planet... it's kinda part and parcel of the ny gallery scene and sometimes it's also good for a laugh. when i first started reading his stuff he used the royal 'we' in his reviews (gag!) ...thankfully he's cut that out. i usually just extract the factual information about who's showing where, look at the pictures, and take his opinion with a very large grain of salt.

as for architecture magazines (what we refer to in school as architectural pornography - "oh my god, did you see the new koolhaas library! i think i just creamed my pants!") i mostly stick with architectural review, which is a british publication - meaning they have intelligent articles and don't fill their magazine with tasteless ads for vinyl siding and rubber flooring - unlike their stateside counterparts architectural record.

when i have the time to take in a theory paper, grey room is a great little publication put out by the mit press. they have essays on architecture, art, media, and politics. but unless you can get on jstor or visit the reading room of the art and architecture library at your local university you might have a hard time finding it.

on a down note - hebert muschamp, the architecture critic for the new york times all through the 90s up to '04, died last week... still haven't got used to the new guy nicolai ouroussoff.

m1rr0r dash 10.17.2007 08:30 AM

...i'm off to DC to check out the solar decathlon and then fallingwaterhouse in PA... so i might be away from the interwebs for a couple of days... see you when i get back

m1rr0r dash 10.22.2007 06:47 PM

bump for extra thread-jacking.

!@#$%! 10.22.2007 07:11 PM

mang i just came back from vegas.

what a shithole.

m1rr0r dash 10.22.2007 07:14 PM

should have stayed here and just pretended you were in NYC...



 


...course that would mean never leaving the hotel.... and require extra powers of delusion....

!@#$%! 10.22.2007 07:18 PM

for fucks sakes, they have an eiffel tower

lots of money everywhere-- but what a dump.

Alex's Trip 10.22.2007 08:11 PM

The construction never stops in Vegas. It is obnoxious.


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