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sarramkrop 02.06.2008 11:35 AM

The Most Dangerous Drugs
 
Anyone who watched that program on tv last night, did you think that they were ranked rightly, or, perhaps, alcohol and cigarettes should have come on top of the list instead of heroin?

floatingslowly 02.06.2008 11:38 AM

you don't get popped by the feds for selling cigarettes in colorado.

just sayin'.

however, chemically, sure.

I didn't watch this dangerous show, but I hope this helps.

sarramkrop 02.06.2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
you don't get popped by the feds for selling cigarettes in colorado.

just sayin'.

however, chemically, sure.

I didn't watch this dangerous show, but I hope this helps.

Yes, mister, but they were ranked in a way that took account of the effects on the body as well as the effects on society. Alcohol and cigarettes surely claim more victims than heroin, but yes, you are right, they are legal, unlike heroin. Then again, why are poppers legal and cannabis isn't?

sarramkrop 02.06.2008 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nefeli
poppers is sex aid!


hey i dont have same telly as you, can you pls if you remember post the list? top 3 or 5 or whatever? thank you.


Heroin came on top. I missed the second position (or third?) but I'd imagine it would be cocaine. Crack was in the top three too. Poppers are a drug, and yes, they are a sex aid too. Still you wouldn't feel too well after you've done a lot of them, and nor would your heart. Ecstasy came at number 18 and I agree with that. I think its effects on people are grossily exaggerated.

floatingslowly 02.06.2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Alcohol and cigarettes surely claim more victims than heroin


agreed.

we should do a bunch of heroin right now just to prove those ninnies wrong.


in related news: my friend stephanie is going out for a smoke. she states than when she does, she's going to "smoke it hard".


edit: crack and meth are way worse than any of the above mentioned drugs (on society and yr body). this list was obviously anti-afghanistan.

sarramkrop 02.06.2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nefeli
poppers feels like literally destroying your braincells..
reckon they arent addictive though?


Yep, that was another point that was discussed on the program. How addictive a drug is. Poppers came rightly at the bottom of the list. Bloatingslowly, heroin is not far more addictive than cigarettes.

sarramkrop 02.06.2008 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
agreed.

we should do a bunch of heroin right now just to prove those ninnies wrong.


in related news: my friend stephanie is going out for a smoke. she states than when she does, she's going to "smoke it hard".


edit: crack and meth are way worse than any of the above mentioned drugs (on society and yr body). this list was obviously anti-afghanistan.


Crack was in the top three. By the way, the program was about the most dangerous drugs in the uk. I'd imagine meth (another one ranked high) would be a different story in the states.

sarramkrop 02.06.2008 12:05 PM

See above post.

pokkeherrie 02.06.2008 12:21 PM

cigarrettes and alcohol are more dangerous than heroin imo, because they are easier accessible and widely accepted in society, meaning more people will suffer from them. including myself.
i'd guess that somewhere between a third and half the population (in some age groups) will start smoking at some point in their lives, just from friends or going out, etc whereas heroin is not easy to buy/use without knowing the right people.

besides, you can be pretty sure that practically everyone who's ever used heroin has used other drugs before that on a frequent basis.

pantophobia 02.06.2008 12:39 PM

was pcp on that list? i always consider that dangerous to the people around the user

pokkeherrie 02.06.2008 12:42 PM

excellent point!
that and speed, coke+alcohol, etc...

floatingslowly 02.06.2008 12:42 PM

poppers are a sex aid?

and by poppers, I assume you mean nitrous oxide.

I don't know about you, but I've never felt like doing the nast-T in a dentist chair.

actually, nevermind. that is a bold-faced lie.

carry on.

EMMAh 02.06.2008 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantophobia
was pcp on that list? i always consider that dangerous to the people around the user


PCP is dangerous to the user too. My friend cut the shit out of his arms while on PCP. He had to go to the hospital and get an whole bunch of stitches.

Anyways, Meth is the worst drug in my opinion. Most drugs are just plain bad though.
I haven't seen this program you're all talking about by the way.

king_buzzo 02.06.2008 03:02 PM

saw that.

Savage Clone 02.06.2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
poppers are a sex aid?

and by poppers, I assume you mean nitrous oxide.



Amyl Nitrate, n00b.

floatingslowly 02.06.2008 03:13 PM

I'm sorry that I'm not hip to yr druggie jive, druggie.

Savage Clone 02.06.2008 03:21 PM

I've never popped a popper in my life.

floatingslowly 02.06.2008 03:24 PM

jeez, no need to get all fugazi on us.

Savage Clone 02.06.2008 03:24 PM

Now that was just cruel.

Savage Clone 02.06.2008 03:50 PM

I think they should be rated according to dignity loss/embarrassing behavior quotients.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.06.2008 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
you don't get popped by the feds for selling cigarettes in colorado.

just sayin'.

however, chemically, sure.

I didn't watch this dangerous show, but I hope this helps.


if you try to sell tobacco without the involvement in some way of the ATF then you will get popped by the feds for selling cigarettes in colorodo. the ATF takes tobacco as seriously, if not more so, as any other drug in this country.

Tokolosh 02.06.2008 04:59 PM

I watched it and strongly believe that alcohol and nicotine are the biggest killers, with barbiturates in third place. Some people were even skeptical about whether booze and cigs should be part of the list. Pfff!

Here's the concoction that was put to the test in the program.
Vote and check out the latest survey results.

ChocolateJesus 02.06.2008 05:30 PM

Drugs are totally awesome.

Glice 02.06.2008 06:54 PM

I'm hammered right now, but hopefully this thread will be live enough for me to find the report that had a sliding scale of psychologically AND physically addictive drugs.

Have a butchers at Frank.com - not absolute, but pretty trustworthy.

From what I remember, Ket ranked very highly on the physically + psychologically addictive drugs.

The thing with poppers is that no fucker could ever get psychologically addicted to them. You'd get a brain haemorrage from them if you took enough, but they simply don't do enough for someone who's psychologically dependent upon drugs (as opposed to physically, in the case of brown and white) to bother with them in the face of much more appealing (and long-lasting) drugs.

Alcohol and fags are clearly not great for you, and even those without a (psychological) dependancy on same are drawn into damage by a (socio-psychological, or cultural) interest/ compulsion; weed has reached the same point for those whose religion doesn't prescribe it (in young Britain, by my observation). I suppose chat or something has a similar effect for 'certain communities' now aswell.

Brown is the fucker, but you don't get into brown without a certain blind-spot for it. I'm currently slightly worried about a mate who's well into the charlie - he can hold himself ok, and function as a normal person (better than most piss-heads), but I wonder how long this'll last.

More drugs rants in the light of morning. You lucky fucks.

floatingslowly 02.06.2008 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Brown is the fucker, but you don't get into brown without a certain blind-spot for it. I'm currently slightly worried about a mate who's well into the charlie - he can hold himself ok, and function as a normal person (better than most piss-heads), but I wonder how long this'll last.


I've lost well over half of my high school friends to heroin.

I've never used it because it was pretty easy to see where it was ultimately taking people. one of my friends has a plastic heart that you can hear clicking when she's across the room.

my best friend is a recovered (or recovering if yr a fascist) dope addict.

before I started speaking to him again a few years ago, I had written him off as dead.

mike ness saved his life and he's now top of his class is pre-med.

atsonicpark 02.06.2008 10:34 PM

everyone knows meth is the most dangerous drug... right?

sarramkrop 02.07.2008 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice

The thing with poppers is that no fucker could ever get psychologically addicted to them. You'd get a brain haemorrage from them if you took enough, but they simply don't do enough for someone who's psychologically dependent upon drugs (as opposed to physically, in the case of brown and white) to bother with them in the face of much more appealing (and long-lasting) drugs.





In my experience (if it counts for anything), I have noticed that the majority of people who do poppers to get high mix them with other drugs, hence their potentially fatal effect. This applies also to those who use them to have sex with other people. Those who use them to enhance their sexual intercourse with their partner are generally more prone to take other drugs on a regular basis, often before they shag. Poppers alone are not much damage unless you are a saddo who gets high on them all the time.

Tokolosh 02.07.2008 05:28 AM

It's a known fact that poppers is widely use by the gay community.
It's normally wiffed at the point of ejaculation to prolong and enhance an orgasm.
NOT for the whole duration of intercoarse.


But you guys wouldn't know anything about that, now would you?

sarramkrop 02.07.2008 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokolosh

But you guys wouldn't know anything about that, now would you?


I never used poppers for those purposes, so no, I only know from other people's accounts. I'd also say that ket has become a strong contender for sex drug of choice amongst gays.

Tokolosh 02.07.2008 05:49 AM

Sex and drugs is a no no in my book.
No need for ket if you're hung like a horse.

sarramkrop 02.07.2008 06:14 AM

Same here. The reality is different, though, and even blokes who are well hung use them to give the sexual intercourse a dangerous edge to it. Sad as it might be, that does happens too.

batreleaser 02.07.2008 11:36 AM

heroin is the one drug that is sure as shit gonna change your lifestyle, cigs and alcohol are bad for you, but you wont find youself immediatley waking up and thinking, fuck, i gotta get some money before i start to jones again... trust me ive been there, i did every drug known to man, and i know addiction is a totally subjective thing, but heroin whupped my fucking ass.

batreleaser 02.07.2008 11:37 AM

and who the fuck would ever wanna fuck on ketamine? i cant even keep the drool from coming out of my mouth when im on that horrid stuff, let alone getting a hard on.

sarramkrop 02.07.2008 11:42 AM

Maybe you have a small penis.

HaydenAsche 02.07.2008 11:46 AM

Meth is probably the most terrible drug I've ever encountered. What about all of those designer drugs? Some of those like MBPP and shit kill if you take a few milligrams too much. I don't know. All kinds of drugs have the potential to be really bad and dangerous. If we're talking about pure uncut chemicals, I'd say heroin is the most dangerous. Amphetamines, when not made in a bath tub, aren't nearly as terrible on the body as meth. I don't know. All drugs are awful.

HaydenAsche 02.07.2008 11:46 AM

Does anyone have this list?

HaydenAsche 02.07.2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
(or recovering if yr a fascist)


Addicts are never recovered. You're an idiot.

sarramkrop 02.07.2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Does anyone have this list?


6:00 am
Tikkabilla
6:30 am
Teletubbies
7:00 am
Jakers!
7:25 am
Newsround
7:30 am
Clutter Nutters
8:00 am
Wild Tales
8:30 am
Mister Maker
8:50 am
Charlie and Lola
9:00 am
Toddworld
9:15 am
The Large Family
9:30 am
Mama Mirabelle's Home Movies
9:45 am
Boogie Beebies
10:00 am
In the Night Garden
10:30 am
What the Ancients Did for Us

afreespirit 02.07.2008 12:13 PM

Everbody knows the most dangerous drug is....

Strycnine

Some folks like water,
Some folks like wine,
But I like a taste,
Of straight strychnine,
You may think it's funny,
That I like this stuff,
But once you've tried it,
You can't get enough,
The wine is red,
And poison is blue,
Strychnine is good,
Oh what's a ??? to you,
The wine is red,
And poison is blue,
Strychnine is good,
Oh what's a ??? to you, oh oh oh
If you listen to what I say,
And you try strychnine someday,
Make you choke,
It'll make you shout,
Illegal, and knock you high,
Some folks like water,
Some folks like wine,
But I like the taste,
Of straight strychnine,
Strychnine(ay ay) [x4]

floatingslowly 02.07.2008 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Addicts are never recovered. You're an idiot.


it's almost noon, shouldn't you be smoking crack already?


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