Kosovo Declares Independance
 

This is great. They have split from Serbia, and there independance is being recognized by the U.S. and and E.U. I guess its a great day to be Albanian. Congradulations to Kosovo, and thier people.

Yeah, it's great for them. Let's just hope that it doesn't turn to another war, I heard Serbia and Russia already had expressed their disagreement and that some fights already happened yesterday...

Kosovo is a timebomb. This might lead to very delicate issues in the near future. To be honest, I don't think it's a clever move.

oh my
well at least we know other countries will help if anythign happens, just like with the old yougoslavia wars



(yes, irony)

me being the only serbian on here, its really cool that its separate. i dont even know if our government approved but i dont think so, theyre being dicks about this saying there will be no serbia without kosovo and shit like that. i mean wtf, its stopping serbia from going into the eu. this should be a positive thing and stupid serbs are denying it.

unlitateral declarations of independance are never cool.

i didn't know there were any other kinds, usually, in human history.

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anyway this seems like an interesting turn of events but i don't know what to think of it. interesting to hear buzzo's point of view.

back in... whenever clinton bombed the fuck out of serbia... i was against u.s. intervention in other country's affairs. of course this was the butcher milosevic, the ethnic cleanser, so things were not so clear cut.

historically this was serbia, and just because the ethnic composition changes you get to make your own country? i don't know if i agree. it's like if latinos became the majority in massachusetts and decided they'd become independent with the support of, say, mexico and spain.

of course milosevic's "efforts" were not the first "ethnic cleansing" in the area, turks and albanians had done that before. so this is only another chapter in the long history of clusterfucks in this region.

now , the funny part-- the KLA are also murderers, yet they got U.S. support-- and will kosovo become the next terrorist-sponsoring islamist state? well that wasn't funny haha. funny weird i meant.

east timor or any portuguese african colony for example.

my thoughts exactly.


wasn't this what happened with texas? residents decided they wanted to be an independent country, the u.s. supported and were eventually integrated.


remember when the u.s. was supporting afghanistan and hussein in irak?

oh! yes! what trend-setters! but of course!!

i gave you examples the first examples that came to me head, dont need to be a dick about it.

i mean, you said, unilateral independence is never good, but cmon, most of the world got its independence this way, that is all.

yes, and i think it's completely fucked, like texas was fucked.

and yes the u.s. supported saddam and the taliban etc.

well, kosovo is next. right now it's a honeymoon (they fly u.s. flags), but in a few years?

i mean, i said, unilateral declarations of indpependance are never cool, there's going to more contestation than if it was a bilateral declaration of independance, that is all.

all of the american countries got their independence unilaterally and we think it was cool as shit that we kicked you guys out ha ha ha.

but anyway...

cool as in calm

but anyway...

oh. that. peaceful is probably the word you were looking for. well yeah. there will be blood.

no, i was looking for cool, the word buzzo used in the post above mine.

i think he meant "cool" differently than you did. hence the confusion.

he did.

fucked up? i wouldn't say fucked up, awkward maybe; then again, that whole area of dispute has been awkward.

few years? try a few months.

and to add to jico's discussion, remember that many french and some british colonies got bilateral...well, diplomatic independences; doesn't mean they weren't conflicted, though.

yes, yes i know that.
i didnt said that.

politically, achieving independences is one of the toughest things in life.

and in long term i doubt they will benefit from this.

doesn't mean they can, but it's tough. it takes a long time to reap benefit and goodwill for the residents.

it doesn't look good though, at least not for the next couple of years.

when the bomb drops it'll be a bank holiday everybody happy in their tents and caravans everybody happy in their ignorance and apathy no realizes till the television breaks down, down down