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alyasa 05.21.2006 09:16 PM

Who loves Ghost World?
 
If Ghost World was a woman, I'd marry her; and Enid & Rebecca would be my children. Seymour could be like their tutor; kinda like Walter Hartright in Wilkie Collins' The Woman In White.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.21.2006 09:25 PM

Haha. I saw the movie first because I was 16 and uneducated as to the genius of Daniel Clowes. But I really like his comics now that I've started reading them.

alyasa 05.21.2006 09:29 PM

It's classic is it? I've never read his comics(blasphemy):o
I saw the movie alone, on campus, in the air-conditioned library, on my laptop, surrounded by studying uni students... And the movie's loneliness and desperation reached out and clawed at my heart, enveloping me in its warmth. Daniel Clowes' comics aren't very accessible where I live... But I guess I should make an effort...

Daycare Nation 05.21.2006 09:30 PM

You HAVE to read the comic....there is a Sonic Youth reference.

alyasa 05.21.2006 09:35 PM

wonderful, thanks for the clue... ;)

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.21.2006 09:37 PM

What was the Sonic Youth reference? I can't remember and I don't want to go to my room to look it up.

HaydenAsche 05.21.2006 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Daycare Nation
You HAVE to read the comic....there is a Sonic Youth reference.


Like OMGZ! Let us purchase things and read them SOLELY for the name-drop of Sonic Youth@!! It must be good, etc. All hail the almighty Gordon's!

alyasa 05.21.2006 09:41 PM

I thought it was the Moore's

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.21.2006 09:44 PM

Is that as far as it goes? A family that shares an SY last name? No wonder I forgot it.

alyasa 05.21.2006 09:45 PM

Kim Gordon is a concerned teacher in Silent Hill 3

Daycare Nation 05.21.2006 09:56 PM

No, they make some comment about stupid people thinking they're indie just because they know who sonic youth is...i don't remember the exact quote

alyasa 05.21.2006 10:00 PM

What the fuck is indie anyway? I mean, I guess I'm indie, coz i play music in a band and don't conform to standard notions of rock music and distribute and play music through non-mainstream venues and methods...

But, honestly; for an /indie-chick-needy-desperate-wanting it/ wanting to get in the pants of an emo boy, that hardcore punk mishap is pure indie for her... Or; maybe; indie are people who read Daniel Clowes comics... Like the venerable Micheal Stipe once said; labels are for cans; not people...

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.21.2006 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Daycare Nation
No, they make some comment about stupid people thinking they're indie just because they know who sonic youth is...i don't remember the exact quote


Oh yeah!!!! I remember that now!

HaydenAsche 05.21.2006 10:03 PM

Was that the same one where they were talking about Animal Collective and BSS?

finding nobody 05.21.2006 10:03 PM

the ghost world soundtrack is cool

acousticrock87 05.21.2006 10:07 PM

Indy doesn't mean anything. It's just short for independant. Like emo, it doesn't mean anything. It's just short for whiney. I mean emotion. Damn genres.

alyasa 05.21.2006 10:10 PM

I read somewhere, emo is hardcore punk. :P

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.21.2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alyasa
I read somewhere, emo is hardcore punk. :P


Well, here is what happened.
There was a hardcore punk band called Rites of Spring that had sensitive lyrics. A lot of bands copied off of them and also incorporated pop-punk- stuff like NOFX and other lame shitty punk. That started emo. When it became popular, emo was pretty much pop-punk with emotional girlfriend related lyrics.

Then there was a group of emo kids that didn't want to be made fun of anymore, so then they started screaming their lyrics and playing more heavy. So it became screamo. Then it turned into hardcore again.

Emo has come full circle, and it has still failed to produce one band that compares to the band that unintentionally spawned it.

alyasa 05.21.2006 10:42 PM

That's a very nice story.

Savage Clone 05.22.2006 12:23 AM

When I was in high school (mid 80s), my imaginary dream girl would have been pretty much identical to Enid (Thora Birch in the movie).

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.22.2006 12:37 AM

I always end up liking the Enid types, but I'd like to go out with a Rebecca sometime.

IntoTheGroovey 05.22.2006 01:02 AM

Ghost World is one of my favourite movies. The graphic novel is great too.

LifeDistortion 05.22.2006 02:36 AM

Who loves "Ghost World"? I love "Ghost World". One of my absolute favorite movies. I saw it in theatres by myself, and simply fell in love with its humor. Everyone in the film is played to perfection, especially Thora Birch's Enid, (totally made me crush on Thora), and Steve Bushcemi's Seymor. Its a beautiful film. Just like Enid I fell in love with "Devil Got My Woman" and bought a Skip James album simply from that movie. I watch "Ghost World" every few months it seems. I memorize lines from the film and they still make me crack up when I hear them like it was the first time. The film is brilliant.

jon boy 05.22.2006 03:42 AM

i really didnt think i would like this movie at all but i really enjoyed it. i laugh when i think of the that blues band blueshammer is it?

nicfit 05.22.2006 03:49 AM

i do i do,clowes is a genius and the movie is good too!

Dues 05.22.2006 04:04 AM

Ghost World to me is so fin de siècle 20st century; time frame on a freeze. Book or comic, both outstanding, but I never come to read or watch them again for more than mere referential needs. It's not that I dislike them now, but they just can't bring back that feeling I had when I read or watched them for the first time.

1. Unlike other Clowes action… Every three years or so I come to read David Boring again and every time it takes me to places emotionally I'd forgotten about. Like A Velvet Glove Cast In Iron is a masterpiece: visually and storylinewise.
2. Unlike other Zwigoff action… The documentary on Crumb is beautiful, as are the man himself and his women. Knocking me off with those American thighs.

screamingskull 05.22.2006 04:36 AM

i fucking hated the movie, probly because i have been such a huge daniel clowes (and adrian tomine) fan for such a long time. their comics are fucking great, and the movie just didn't live up to that, it also made Enid kinda out to be this irretating whore, which she definately was not!

the sonic youth quote is on the first page, it says

enid - why do you have this? (holds up sassy magazine)
Rebecca - what?
Enid - i hate this fucking magazine!, these stupid girls think they're so hip, but they're just a bunch of trendy stuck-up prep-school bitches who think they're "cutting edge" because they know who "sonic youth" is!

after reading that on the first page i knew i'd love the rest of it. and i did.
also check out Adrian Tomine, Daniel Clowes'es stuff can get a bit drugged out like he wrote it whilst on acid, Adrian Tomine's stuff is alot more realistic and true to life.

alyasa 05.22.2006 05:52 AM

There is a feeling of time being encapsulated in a moment. I get that feeling from Lost In Translation too... Scarlett Johansson's in that one too, as well as this one... I can't explain why, when Enid leaves town on the bus; the world just stops turning, everything else is lost in the blur and the rush, and I am there alone, and my heart aches and all life and creation is infused with a sorrow unnameable... 'All that great heart lying still' or something like that... Lost In Translation had that same effect on me... Except that I burst into fucking tears...

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.22.2006 10:19 AM


 


Was he on acid when he wrote this? I've never read anything more fucked up than it.

alyasa 05.22.2006 10:21 AM

Man, that looks so yummy...

Everyneurotic 05.22.2006 11:28 AM

so am i the only person who hates that stupid, boring movie?

i guess i don't fit in the stereotype you guys fall in.

Unmade Bed 05.22.2006 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
so am i the only person who hates that stupid, boring movie?

i guess i don't fit in the stereotype you guys fall in.


I guess the thread says Who "Loves" Ghost world, and not who "hates"

Everyneurotic 05.22.2006 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Unmade Bed
I guess the thread says Who "Loves" Ghost world, and not who "hates"


good point

luxinterior 05.22.2006 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
i really didnt think i would like this movie at all but i really enjoyed it. i laugh when i think of the that blues band blueshammer is it?


Two of my friends and I went to a concert on Friday, and the early show was supposed to have been over by the time we got there, but the last band was still playing. They were terrible, to say the least, and every other song was some classic blues tune morphed into a kind of Lynyrd Skynyrd-meets-Colgate Extra Whitening toothpaste sort of thing. We seemed to be the only people in the room who knew this was the most ridiculous band on the planet. After the set was over, one of my friends yelled "BLUESHAMMER!!!" and I totally lost it.

umjammer atomsk 05.22.2006 04:36 PM

I liked the movie a lot and i knew it was based on some comics, but i haven't read them yet. This Clowes character sounds damn interesting though. Next time i visit a comic shop i'm picking some of his stuff up.

Cotton Crown 05.22.2006 06:31 PM

I haven't seen the woody allen movie with miss scarlett in it yet. Is that any good?

Dues 05.22.2006 08:28 PM

Damn straight it is [Match Point].
Another one in the pipes as well [Scoop].

umjammer atomsk 05.22.2006 08:35 PM

Oh, yeah! I heard about Match Point awhile ago but I totally forgot about it. I remember reading that it's like a romantic comedy of sorts, right? Damn I've gotta see that; I'm a pretty big fan of Woody Allen.

Dues 05.22.2006 08:53 PM

Meh, "romantic comedy", very arguable, whatever; it's simply ace!
Love the balls on Woody Allen. It's hot.

screamingskull 05.23.2006 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
 


Was he on acid when he wrote this? I've never read anything more fucked up than it.


oh fuck yeah, i havent read my copy of that in a while but its really fucked up, isnt there a girl in it called Tina whos made of potatoe?, and they shave that dog without the head and find that map. ha ha ha. he was definately on something!


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