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HECKLER SPRAY 04.29.2008 11:40 AM

Jim O
 
I was looking for controversy...

What do you think about Jim' involvement in SY ?
As for me, I think he didn't bring so much to the band, I 've been disappointed.
I wonder why he left the band. Does somebody know ?

mil_pl 04.29.2008 11:53 AM

for me he did a lot, for example sonic nurse - which is masterpiece for me (for production and for album)

mil_pl 04.29.2008 11:53 AM

he left cuz he is studying in japan sth with movies.

HECKLER SPRAY 04.29.2008 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mil_pl
he left cuz he is studying in japan sth with movies.

That proves he was not very interested in the band...

nicfit 04.29.2008 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
That proves he was not very interested in the band...

that proves just that he does what he wants do to with his life.

Derek 04.29.2008 12:13 PM

Jim's solo albums are great, if he put as much effort into his solo albums as he did with SY then this decade would be my favourite SY decade.

HECKLER SPRAY 04.29.2008 12:13 PM

If you have the opportunity to play in a such good band, what would you do ?
I'm not sure I 'd go in Japan to make films...

uhler 04.29.2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
If you have the opportunity to play in a such good band, what would you do ?
I'm not sure I 'd go in Japan to make films...


i would go to japan and make movies in a second. even if it means quitting a great band.

HECKLER SPRAY 04.29.2008 12:20 PM

^^ Liar !!!^^

nicfit 04.29.2008 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HECKLER SPRAY
If you have the opportunity to play in a such good band, what would you do ?
I'm not sure I 'd go in Japan to make films...

I would, if that's what I want to do.
Jim doesn't "need" opportunities, he gives opportunities. a ha ha a :D
zen post.

HECKLER SPRAY 04.29.2008 12:27 PM

Well, I mean I don't understand his choice.
Man, it's SONIC YOUTH !!!!

Derek 04.29.2008 12:34 PM

It's artistic direction. He feels the need to express himself through movies, rather than music.

Moshe 04.29.2008 12:44 PM

I know why he really left the band. If you wan to know you should read the upcoming sy bio.

HECKLER SPRAY 04.29.2008 12:50 PM

Ok, I'm gonna wait for this bio to have some answers.

Everyneurotic 04.29.2008 03:16 PM

so fucking what? sy existed before jim'o and they still exist after jim'o.

and jim'o was awesome before he joined sy and he is still very fucking awesome. he should start doing more music.

toxic johnny 04.29.2008 03:25 PM

There is apparently a new Jim album coming out later in the year on Drag City... they are also re-releasing some of his back catalogue...

Derek 04.29.2008 03:27 PM

Hope I can snag a copy of Eureka soon.

Everyneurotic 04.29.2008 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by toxic johnny
There is apparently a new Jim album coming out later in the year on Drag City... they are also re-releasing some of his back catalogue...


yeah, i got mixed up with the reissues and thought of a new album slipped my mind.

i'm mad at jim because i wasn't aware he played in a band called osorezan and i wanted to use that name myself.

scott v 04.29.2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
so fucking what? sy existed before jim'o and they still exist after jim'o.

and jim'o was awesome before he joined sy and he is still very fucking awesome. he should start doing more music.


well said!

Jim is super interested in Film and particulary japanese film (from an article I read in BOMB magazine a few years ago) some of his favorite film makers are japanese along side experimental folks like Tony Conrad, Nicolas Roag, Michael Snow.. etc etc.
I think it was a within a few weeks after he formally left SY when a friend of mine who works at the University of Buffalo Media Studies Dept., spotted him in the hallways of the dept. hanging out with Tony Conrad (professor in the dept.) and they were probably discussing alot about Jim's future in the subject. I'm guessing he's obviously formally studying Film in Japan, and also trying to keep involved with musical projects when the opportunity exists.

fluxequalsrad 04.29.2008 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Moshe
I know why he really left the band. If you wan to know you should read the upcoming sy bio.



What a jip. Just tell us now.

RanaldoNecro 04.29.2008 06:56 PM

I don't really have any comment on him. NYC Flowers and ghosts and Sonic Nurse and both fantastic & my favs

but

leaving a band like SY is the biggest act of wankerdom ever.

✌➬ 04.29.2008 06:59 PM

Why is it the biggest act of "wankerdom?" Just because he wanted to go on his own direction?

Everyneurotic 04.29.2008 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro
I don't really have any comment on him. NYC Flowers and ghosts and Sonic Nurse and both fantastic & my favs

but

leaving a band like SY is the biggest act of wankerdom ever.


ugh, do you get worked up when someone in a band talks bad about another band?

Sonic Youth 37 04.29.2008 09:20 PM

Jim O was great in SY. Some of their best output is with him.

deflinus 04.29.2008 09:29 PM

he makes great solo stuff. i admire him

atsonicpark 04.29.2008 10:15 PM

Jim's solo career and other projects (like Gastr del sol) blow away almost everything SY ever did. SY were great before/during him being with them and they'll probably be good again soon (Rather Ripped sucked).

Jim's great, he was in the band for, what, 4 or 5 years? That's a pretty long time to be in a band for such an active person.

Also, "wankerdom"? Go listen to the new Mindless Self Indulgence album or something, "d00d".

RanaldoNecro 04.29.2008 10:36 PM

Why is it the biggest act of "wankerdom?" Just because he wanted to go on his own direction?

I understand that he presumably had alot to offer to a band like SY and vice versa. And without sounding, 'careerist', I just don't see many other opportunities like that for anyone.

It is stimulating to follow your muse and go your own way as an artists nature dicates but the wind could blow forever as well.

I also bought Eureka and it just didn't do anything for me. In fact I was let down...

Everyneurotic 04.29.2008 10:39 PM

hahahahaha, you make it sound like if it was jim's big chance at "making it" as a musician.

sy was jim'o's american idol.

atsonicpark 04.29.2008 10:47 PM

Eureka's awesome.

batreleaser 04.29.2008 11:20 PM

are you kidding? i thought be brought sy out of their bried, but stil present, late 90's slump. i think murray street is their best major label release since ddn, and jim (and probably lee) helped them embrace their stoner, psychedelic jam, greatful dead influences and did it in a way which sounded totally awesome. he helped bring sonic youth into the new millenium, and here they are, still one of the most important bands we have.

batreleaser 04.29.2008 11:23 PM

whoa, i missed that comment about wankerdom. jim never made the implication he was gonna be in sy forever, it was just another bleep on his absolutley mindblowingly brilliant carreer.

does anyone remember the first time they heard o rourke was gonna be a full time member of the youth? i dont recall ever being that stoked on any music news in my life.

neptuneg 04.29.2008 11:54 PM

What is the upcoming SY bio?

✌➬ 04.30.2008 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RanaldoNecro
Why is it the biggest act of "wankerdom?" Just because he wanted to go on his own direction?

I understand that he presumably had alot to offer to a band like SY and vice versa. And without sounding, 'careerist', I just don't see many other opportunities like that for anyone.

It is stimulating to follow your muse and go your own way as an artists nature dicates but the wind could blow forever as well.

I also bought Eureka and it just didn't do anything for me. In fact I was let down...


What are you talking about? I have heard some of his solo stuff. Yes, some of it doesn't do much for me, but most noise or experimental doesn't or whatever you want to call it. SY wasn't the only opportunity, is it wrong to do what you want, even if you have this opportunity in front of you?

Like most said already, he wasn't in the band for good. He was just stopping by, and to be honest he did changed the direction they where going, or crashing into.

dressedindreams 04.30.2008 04:08 AM

Jim's discography is amazing. The amount of great albums he's been involved with i don't think can be calculated.
Him being in sonic youth was a very small factor for me.

Toxa 04.30.2008 05:40 AM

he is a great musician.
I'm digging Loose Fur now.

toxic johnny 04.30.2008 03:53 PM

"We’ve got a great sales plan for May — and if you’ve been paying attention, you know we’ve been bragging about it: Jim O’Rourke reissues, the likes of which ye’ve seldom seen! Seriously, the Osorezan Mimidokudesuka CD didn’t get too far out of Japan back in aught-five, despite an all-star free-power-jams lineup of O’Rourke, Darin Gray and Chris Corsano. And Mimidokudesuka was never pressed on vinyl — until now, motherfucker. Then Tamper goes all the way back to 1991, an age where either you weren’t born already or were carrying on as if you shouldn’t have ever been to begin with! Man, it’s some tasty stuff bro — instruments for the sake of instruments, music in purest sonic form. So pure, you don’t even recognize it!"


A snippet from the last Drag City newsletter... can't wait.

Rob Instigator 04.30.2008 04:20 PM

I don;t see how Jim did anything to alter SY's sound. he was more about teaching them how to record things in thjeir studio on a digital level.

He helped live, which was always cool, but i do not see how the sonic youth was altered by his presence. it was cool though.

RanaldoNecro 04.30.2008 08:11 PM

is it wrong to do what you want, even if you have this opportunity in front of you

Of course its not wrong. All I'm saying is that there are not many opportunites like that.

fugazifan 05.01.2008 01:27 AM

but why does JO need an opportunity like that if he can do and has done whatever he wants whenever he wants. if you didnt like eureka i suggest insignificance, its more rockier. and bad timing is simply beautiful. if you want more experimental-happy days is a masterpeice

ArthurDoyleHandCream 05.01.2008 05:46 AM

I don't think Muray Street would be the same without Jim.


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