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dazedcola 05.01.2008 05:49 PM

That Band Joy Division
 
Ever heard of them before?

I never really was a fan.I heard "love will tear us apart" a bunch of times but felt nothing for it. Then sometime over the last month i stumbled upon some live version of "she lost control" and really enjoyed it. I got Unknown Pleasures and thought it was just okay, but I Loved the live disc that came with it. It had way more energy and excitement than the studio album.

Anyone else have this strange predicament with the band or any other band for that matter?

Trasher02 05.01.2008 05:58 PM

God praise Joy Division. The live material does have alot more excitement on it and is way more emotional. Great, great, great album still blows my mind every time I listen to it.

gmku 05.01.2008 05:59 PM

Yeah, they sort of have that Interpol thing going on.

Trasher02 05.01.2008 06:00 PM

lol

dionysusundone 05.01.2008 06:11 PM

It helps to hear them on vinyl, I've noticed.

I have a 2 LP limited edition set of Martin Hannett's mixes. Good stuff, if not drastically different from the orginals.

Everyneurotic 05.01.2008 06:43 PM

fucking flash in the pan...

batreleaser 05.01.2008 08:08 PM

is this serious?

atsonicpark 05.01.2008 09:55 PM

Yeah, this a joke thread.

Anyway, Unknown Pleasures rules. That's about it.

batreleaser 05.01.2008 09:58 PM

well, everything joy division did ruled. even their warsaw shit.

"this is the way, step inside"

pbradley 05.01.2008 10:09 PM

3 5 0 1 2 5 Go!

evollove 05.02.2008 08:12 AM

Ever hear the Peel Sessions? Although I'm a fan of the band generally, its like they had some massive energy drain before recording them. Sounds a lot like Cure's PONO to me (which might just be your thing). Then again, because I didn't like them (The P sessions) I haven't listened to them in years and my memory might be fucking with me.

PAULYBEE2656 05.02.2008 08:15 AM

the live half of still is fantastic, their final gig i think! great band, just read the debbie curtis book, i have to say i wasnt impressed. she seems a tad..... bitter about her deal!

favourite jd album... closer, its hauntingly poignant.

Torn Curtain 05.02.2008 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazedcola
I got Unknown Pleasures and thought it was just okay, but I Loved the live disc that came with it. It had way more energy and excitement than the studio album.


The band hated Hannett's production.

_slavo_ 05.02.2008 03:18 PM

Closer is a record that's way beyond my comprehension. I mean, each time I listen to it, I just keep holding my breath until the last song's over.

Rob Instigator 05.02.2008 03:21 PM

I love all the Joy Division

but a sweet spot is reserved in my heart of hearts for SUBSTANCE

holy fuck what a collection of songs to get into when I was 18 and found a dubbed cassette of it, having heard just one or two Joy division songs beforehand. FUCK

I love it so much.

THEY KEEP CALLING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

_slavo_ 05.02.2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator

but a sweet spot is reserved in my heart of hearts for SUBSTANCE



Yes! Digital, Transmission and She's Lost Control ... it's all there.

PAULYBEE2656 05.02.2008 04:01 PM

dead souls.... fucking amazing song.... so good im gonna put it on right now........

batreleaser 05.02.2008 04:40 PM

they are quite possibly the only bands'artists ever who made two ten star perfect ablums in a row. only other bands that did that were the velvets (white light/whiteheat, vu and nico), arguably the youth (first five full lengths).

radarmaker 05.02.2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
they are quite possibly the only bands'artists ever who made two ten star perfect ablums in a row. only other bands that did that were the velvets (white light/whiteheat, vu and nico), arguably the youth (first five full lengths).


Add The Stooges & (arguably) Neil Young [On The Beach / Tonight's The Night], Patti Smith [Horses / Radio Ethiopia] & David Bowie [Hunky Dory / Ziggy] to the list and I might agree.

batreleaser 05.02.2008 07:54 PM

i disagree with the stooges, i love all their ablums and theyre my favorite band, but fun house stands far above their other two records. actually i dont agree with any of those. on the beach is far superior to tonights the night, horses is superior to radio ethiopia, and i dont like either of those bowie ablums (if you had said berlin trilogy id give you that)

Torn Curtain 05.03.2008 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
on the beach is far superior to tonights the night, horses is superior to radio ethiopia


In my opinion Tonight's the night is better than On the beach (even if the latter is already really great) and Radio Ethiopia is better than Horses. To each his own :)

Torn Curtain 05.03.2008 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radarmaker
Add The Stooges & (arguably) Neil Young [On The Beach / Tonight's The Night], Patti Smith [Horses / Radio Ethiopia] & David Bowie [Hunky Dory / Ziggy] to the list and I might agree.


Yes, and Tim Buckley (Happy Sad / Lorca / Blue afternoon / Starsailor), Tindersticks (the first three albums), The Notwist (12 / Shrink / Neon golden), Scott Walker (Scott 3 / Scott 4), Talk Talk (Spirit of Eden / Laughing stock), The Cure (Seventeen second / Faith / Pornography) - I know batreleaser will never agree with the last one though :D

swimsuitissue 05.08.2008 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
Yeah, they sort of have that Interpol thing going on.


I think Interpol have that Joy Division thing going on! :D

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.09.2008 12:47 AM

I like Joy Division.

Love Will Tear Us Apart is a tragically overrated song.

I like their fast stuff the best, like Glass, Digital, Ice Age, Transmission, etc.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 05.09.2008 12:49 AM

I think it was AtSonicPark who said it best about Interpol.

All of their songs are ripoffs of the song Shadowplay.

atsonicpark 05.09.2008 04:30 AM

Thanks, didn't know people actually listened to me.

_slavo_ 05.09.2008 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Thanks, didn't know people actually listened to me.


They actually don't, he just felt sorry for you so he mentioned you :D

MellySingsDoom 05.09.2008 07:42 AM

 

runrunrun 05.10.2008 09:07 PM

i think theyre alright. but most people are in love with the image not the music

✌➬ 05.10.2008 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by runrunrun
i think theyre alright. but most people are in love with the image not the music


I think this is more true now after the movie came out.

dazedcola 05.10.2008 09:31 PM

I find it odd that alot of people worship they're distinctive sound on Unknown Pleasures even though the band expressed dismay with the eventual mixing of it.

dionysusundone 05.10.2008 11:00 PM

I believe they changed their mind later on, they were mainly disappointed that it didn't capture their live sound.

Torn Curtain 05.11.2008 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by runrunrun
i think theyre alright. but most people are in love with the image not the music


Well, their music has a strong visual aspect (in the lyrics or atmospheres) and the band played a lot with its image too, so I think it's difficult to distinguish image and music with them. But anyway I disagree I think their music is ace.

demonrail666 05.11.2008 09:36 AM

i'd never say they were bad, or anything silly like that, but they're one of those 'classic' bands that never interestred me much. I always preferred New Order. There's something all to precious about the whole JD thing, and Unknown Pleasures, for all its great songs, is horribly over produced.

Alex's Trip 08.25.2008 09:00 PM

My favorite band this day/hour/minute/second

atari 2600 08.25.2008 09:10 PM

A friend has borrowed all of my Joy Division and New Order, including all my bootlegs.

deflinus 08.25.2008 09:15 PM

i just started watching Control today. its pretty good so far i guess. but i got bored and paused it. maybe ill finish it tonight

atsonicpark 08.25.2008 09:17 PM

I might watch it online. As much as I like Joy Division, I don't really have any interest in watching a biography of them.

All my favorite Joy Division songs were never on a full length album I guess... all the ones between UNKNOWN PLEASURES and CONTROL on the HEART AND SOUL box set... stuff like "ice age".. fuck!!

dionysusundone 08.25.2008 09:42 PM

Control's OK. A bit too long, drags a bit in places, but it gave me a real emotional thrill when I watched in the theater.

RanaldoNecro 08.25.2008 10:41 PM

It seems Joy Division were more influential than popular...They seem to be a benchmark for many other bands..

Early New Order really captures what they were doing in JD..

I always resented New Order for their excessive re-packaging...


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