Is Boyd Rice the best artist ever or what?
 

Sorry, this piece by him deserves its own thread. I'll attach a poll.

Haha. Adam Parfrey is a close second.

is it horrible that i found these amusing?

yeah, he's pretty interesting, i still prefer Gus Van Sant and Jack Siegel though, but they are just artists who are working in the style i love.

Gus Van Sant


Jack Siegel

Boyd Rice is far from being a good visual artist but I find him amusing both as a musician and whatever it is that he is into at any particular time. Jack Siegel and Gus Van Sant's pictures I find a little too anonymous looking. They're ok, don't get me wrong, it's just that they seem to lack any character.

Boyd Rice is an asshole.

Oh Danny, we've had this before. He is certainly capable of being quite the arsehole and I couldn't disagree more with some of his ''ideas'', yet he tackles subjects in a way that I find appealing.

please danny, you're english, say arsehole

Unpop Art = Yawn.
Rice is an attention seeking tosser, with no clue about aesthetics.

We have indeed clashed over this before, somewhere in the past. I just don't agree with how he's treated women on certain occasions in his personal life and I know it's a little silly to write off his artwork because of this, but I do anyway.



Sorry, I just got off the phone with some American telemarketing arsehole and she couldn't even spell my name properly, so when I had her spell it out she still couldn't understand a word I was saying. So I guess I was in American-spelling/expletive mode.

God Save The Queen.

That film was so boring. Except for the part where the security guard is cut in two by the train and he's crawling towards the kid for help and all his entrails are being dragged behind him, that was pretty Savini-esque and I enjoyed it.

never checked out boyd rice's music, it's not particularly high on my list of priorities, the fact the he was/is (is he alive?) a moronic loser isn't encouraging me to check him out either.

That is such a typical reaction, i expect you were looking like this whilst you typed that.


The thing about Gus Van Sant's films is that they are not plot driven, they are art based films. So if you're looking for a blockbuster then go see something else.

I don't think that I've ever watched a movie by Van Sant that didn't want to make me sleep soundly. He really, really should have stuck at being a musician.

Well, tokolosh, that is a bit generic. I think that we both like sometimes artists that could be deemed pretentious attention-seekers. Boyd Rice is one of them for sure, he still manages to remain less annoying than your Tracy Emins etc etc, at least because I'm fairly sure he knows that he's never gonna get overexposed any time soon. As a musician alone he made some great records with NON, solo or others.

His "art" reminds me of stuff I would encounter at rotten.com, t-shirt hell and the like. Cheap and gimmicky. I have no comment about his music.

he's a traitor, he likes american fast food.

Yeah I agree, it is awful, wrong and cheap-looking. That's why I like it.

Wacky Boydy-Woydy-Wice and his Barbie Doll collection? He sure is a jolly japester, innie? (I suspect though he smells of wee).

I like some of Non's music, but then his damn personality always muddles it up in the back of my mind. His art brings that personality to the forebrain, and so I dislike it because I dislike him as a perpetual twelve year old boy discovering Nietzche and that he can piss off his parents without getting kicked off the trust fund. I find it impossible to judge as if it were by somebody anonymous, but then I'd probably still find it boring at best.

pagan musak!!!

i like quite a few of his recordings, i guess i can make the separation.

my own private idaho was good though a bit pretentious-- to die for was just fucking awesome (except for the very last scene where the author delivers his "message" via a character who talks to the screen). drugstore cowboy was good too, really good. finding forrester was sweet but such a cliche. good will hunting = shoot me now. even cowgirls get the blues = utter crap. psycho... who the fuck dares remake psycho?

i think he peaked in 1995 with to die for.

paranoid park!!!

van sant = win.

drugstore cowboy and stop the list.

to die for is better

He is a very good musician, bless him.

nicole kidman and joaquin pheonix movie? that one is kinda lame.

"DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR?? YES YOU WANT TOTAL WAR!!"

No, Boyd, what I really want is a pastrami on rye, extra mustard, and don't be stingy with the pickles. It's what Josef Goebbels would have wanted after all.

This thread reminded me of a brilliant track by Gus Van Sant and William Burroughs called ''Hipster Be-Bop Junkie'', which is only a cool thing. FANXXXX!!

hell no. she's absolutely AMAZING in it-- she carries a lot of the movie actually. there's even an appearance by david cronenberg. that movie is fucking great-- her character, a complete fucking monster. one of the best female monsters ever since "all about eve".

I likes 'im. I wouldn't say he was the best thing ever, but his 'noise' music never seems like noise and is rarely angry. His personal opinions on things never come across as fascist so much as one particular avenue you could follow absolute libertarianism to. He flirts with fascism but you'll never hear him actually single out a single group (i.e., he seems to love/hate all abstract people equally).

Social Darwinism is the natural conclusion of dyed-in-the-wool Greens: discuss.

not really that keen. i like gus van sant.

As opposed to fast food from anywhere else..? :confused:

Maybe it's me, but what has Boyd Rice got to do with Gus Van Sant that you could make a connection? Isn't that a bit like saying you like Stereolab, but prefer pepsi?

Well done that man.

I went to see the new Indiana Jones film today and it was great. Thanks for the advice. :)

I still want someone to explain to me the connection between Boyd Rice and Gus Van Sant. I'm not being sarcastic, just genuinely confused.

demon - there is no connection. I think that screamingskull must've been thinking of someone else. At least that's what I believe. What else could connect a prankster loving pseudo-fascist with, er, GVS? Nowt, that's what. Anyway, the big question is: do you want Bowdy-boy to serve you totalitarian politics, or a damn fine pastrami sandwich at Disneyworld?

I have no idea. I'm just glad this thread reminded me of Burroughs/Van Sant's ''The Elvis Of Letters'' record 'cause it's ace and I listened to it again.

Actually, thinking about it, I'm sure you could link Boyd Rice to William Burroughs and then to Gus Van Sant.

i used to be fascinated by all that stuff that was in that tape delay book as the time it was first published, but these days most of industrial type stuff from it seems pretty meh.