Where can I find an extensive and super-detailed Ashtray Navigations discography?
 

By this I mean anything that they have also put out on cassette, ultra-limited cdr's etc. Literally everything that they have done so far under one roof. The ones I have checked so far gave me the impression that some releases are not listed, or maybe it's just me. Thanks for any help.

Isn't there somebody on here who's friends with Phil Todd?

I would bet that he's the only one who has a list of every release.

Maybe like Danny once said about Merzbow, only his mum knows.

I can't remember who, but I'm certain there was somebody on here who knows him. Glice maybe?

discogs probably knows more about ashtray navigations discography than phil todd, his mom or glice.

Releases:
Chronique Du Nord (CDr, Ltd) Smokers Gifts
The Original Wooden Forest (7") Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers
Bleached Bones - Moving Coil (Cass, C46) Noise 1996
Easter - Exit (Cass) FDR Tapes 1996
Plastic (Cass) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1996
Who's Been Rocking My Dream-Boat? (Cass) Less Than Zero 1996
Four Raga Moods (CD) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1997
Live At The Tehuacán Harvest Festival (Cass) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1997
Split (CD, Ltd) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers, American Tapes 1997
Use Copenhagen 69 Guitars & Park Drive Effects pedals Exclusively (LP) Siltbreeze 1997
Split (7") Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1998
Those Are Pearls That Were His Eyes (CDr, Ltd) Solipsism 1998
Trash Mobile (CDr) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1998
A Mayflower Garland (LP) Outer Orbit 2000
End-Of-The-Pier Vault (7", Ltd) Tonschacht 2000
Plaster Projection Instruction Record (LP) Menlo Park Recordings 2000
Tristes Tropiques (CD) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers, Blackbean And Placenta Tape Club, Rhizome 2000
When You See The Moon You've Got To Howl (CDr) Rhizome 2001
Heavy Flow Traffic Or Blind Faith (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2002
Last Kiss Amateur Frequencies (7") Gameboy Records 2002
Aurora Grease Sweetrocket (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2004
Beast Series (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2004
Electric Cointelpro (CDr, Mini) First Person 2004
Some Cat Lost In His Own Picture (7") Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2004
To Your Fucking Feather'd Wings (CD) absurd, Gold Soundz 2004
Yesterday's Teeth Cast In Gold (CDr) PseudoArcana 2004
You Cannot Tell Cigars By The Picture On The Box (CD) Celebrate Psi Phenomenon 2004
A Mayflower Garland (CDr, Album, RE, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2005
Blues Power Cake (CDr) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2005
Sky Whine (CDr) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2005
Tapwater Locomotive (CDr, Mini) Not On Label 2005
The Love That Whirrs (CD) Last Visible Dog 2005
To Get Beyond Nihilism By Revaluing Combat (CDr, Mini, Ltd) Hypnagogia 2005
Who's Been Rocking My Dream-Boat? (CDr) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2005
A Monument To British Rock (2xCDr, Album, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Bananaurora The Yellow Harvest (CDr, Mini, EP) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Beast Series / Ssssnares (CDr, Album, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Cante Jodido Lookalike Contest (CDr, Mini) First Person 2006
Cobridge Red Church And Other Visual Splendours (CDr, RE, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Dirt Mummies And Bloody Amps (LP, Ltd) Freenoise 2006
Exotic Toilet Tour (CDr, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Flute Falling (Vertically) (CDr, Album, Ltd) Spirit Of Orr 2006
Four More Raga Moods (CD) Ikuisuus 2006
Psychedelic Used Car Lot Blues (CDr, Mini, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Red Culture (CDr, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Skewered By Clouds (CDr, MiniAlbum, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Stranded In The Tea / Standing In The Tea (Cass) Fargone Records 2006
Strawberries And Ice (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Sweet Iron Feet (CDr) Chocolate Monk 2006
The Vulgar Glissando (Cass, Ltd) Beyond Repair Records 2006
Trunk O Tuned Skulls (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
An Evening Of Contemporary Sitar Metal (CDr, Album, Ltd) Not On Label 2007
Backstage Education - August Tour 2007 (4xCDr, Ltd, 1st) Not On Label 2007
Backstage Education - August Tour 2007 (4xCDr, Ltd, 2nd) Not On Label 2007
Caeduceus & Black Sal (CD, Album, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2007
Clacton Pier Death EP (CDr, EP) Smokers Gifts 2007
Dame Whiskey, Mary Jane (CDr, Album, Ltd) U-Sound Archive 2007
Four Raga Moods (CDr, Album, Ltd) Revival (2) 2007
Hosianna Mantrap (CDr, Album, Ltd) Oneiros Recordings 2007
Running On Autokinetic (CDr, Ltd) Not On Label 2007
Split (CDr, Ltd) Ruralfaune 2007
Those Are Pearls That Were His Eyes (CDr, Album, Ltd) Revival (2) 2007
Throw Up In The Sky / With Fine Clinking Magnets (LP) Qbico 2007
Untitled (CDr, Ltd) absurd 2007
1995-1997 Hands Under Water Reaching For Nothing (CDr, Album, Ltd) Revival (2) 2008
A Monument To British Rock (3xLP, Ltd) Smokers Gifts 2008
Chocolate Concrete (CDr, Mini, Ltd) Not On Label 2008
Idiot Music Lavatory Floor (2xCDr, Ltd) Not On Label 2008
Mouth / Astrid (IX & VI) (Cass, C40) Sick Head 2008
Srpls Provncl Hrbs (CDr, Album, Ltd) Not On Label 2008
The Creamwheel (CDr, Album, Ltd) Not On Label 2008

There's no way that's extensive. I can instantly see a couple of things I've had missing.

That's exactly the one I was thinking of. It has a tape missing on that list that I now have.

fucking hell

Yes.

I can also see another three cdr's missing too. I bet there are more than a few other tapes missing on that list.

i can also see a couple ones he pooped down the toilet missing too.


sure is a lot missing,
probably the best you can find on the internet, though.

If he hasn't kept a full list himself then I doubt that anyone else has... maybe send a PM to Smokers Gift and ask.

How would you know it's the best on the internet? Are you his mum?

dont forget to add the ones you've noticed missing to the list so that we can all be happier.

will this do???

ashtray navigations discography

What do you mean?

add them to the list.

Releases:
Chronique Du Nord (CDr, Ltd) Smokers Gifts
The Original Wooden Forest (7") Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers
A Spike Through the Heart of Jelly (Cass) 1994
Mounting a Pike (Cass) 1994
Bleached Bones - Moving Coil (Cass, C46) Noise 1996
Easter - Exit (Cass) FDR Tapes 1996
Plastic (Cass) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1996
Who's Been Rocking My Dream-Boat? (Cass) Less Than Zero 1996
Four Raga Moods (CD) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1997
Live At The Tehuacán Harvest Festival (Cass) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1997
Split (CD, Ltd) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers, American Tapes 1997
Use Copenhagen 69 Guitars & Park Drive Effects pedals Exclusively (LP) Siltbreeze 1997
Split (7") Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1998
Those Are Pearls That Were His Eyes (CDr, Ltd) Solipsism 1998
Trash Mobile (CDr) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers 1998
Like Crane Automata Cast in Blue Rust (Cass) 1999
A Mayflower Garland (LP) Outer Orbit 2000
End-Of-The-Pier Vault (7", Ltd) Tonschacht 2000
Plaster Projection Instruction Record (LP) Menlo Park Recordings 2000
Tristes Tropiques (CD) Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers, Blackbean And Placenta Tape Club, Rhizome 2000
When You See The Moon You've Got To Howl (CDr) Rhizome 2001
Live at Wolfcentral (Cass) 2001
Heavy Flow Traffic Or Blind Faith (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2002
Last Kiss Amateur Frequencies (7") Gameboy Records 2002
Aurora Grease Sweetrocket (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2004
Beast Series (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2004
Electric Cointelpro (CDr, Mini) First Person 2004
Some Cat Lost In His Own Picture (7") Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2004
To Your Fucking Feather'd Wings (CD) absurd, Gold Soundz 2004
Yesterday's Teeth Cast In Gold (CDr) PseudoArcana 2004
You Cannot Tell Cigars By The Picture On The Box (CD) Celebrate Psi Phenomenon 2004
Live in Etruria Temple Garden (CDr) 2004
A Mayflower Garland (CDr, Album, RE, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2005
Blues Power Cake (CDr) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2005
Sky Whine (CDr) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2005
Tapwater Locomotive (CDr, Mini) Not On Label 2005
The Love That Whirrs (CD) Last Visible Dog 2005
To Get Beyond Nihilism By Revaluing Combat (CDr, Mini, Ltd) Hypnagogia 2005
Who's Been Rocking My Dream-Boat? (CDr) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2005
A Monument To British Rock (2xCDr, Album, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Bananaurora The Yellow Harvest (CDr, Mini, EP) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Beast Series / Ssssnares (CDr, Album, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Cante Jodido Lookalike Contest (CDr, Mini) First Person 2006
Cobridge Red Church And Other Visual Splendours (CDr, RE, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Dirt Mummies And Bloody Amps (LP, Ltd) Freenoise 2006
Exotic Toilet Tour (CDr, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Flute Falling (Vertically) (CDr, Album, Ltd) Spirit Of Orr 2006
Four More Raga Moods (CD) Ikuisuus 2006
Psychedelic Used Car Lot Blues (CDr, Mini, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Red Culture (CDr, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Skewered By Clouds (CDr, MiniAlbum, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Stranded In The Tea / Standing In The Tea (Cass) Fargone Records 2006
Strawberries And Ice (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
Sweet Iron Feet (CDr) Chocolate Monk 2006
The Vulgar Glissando (Cass, Ltd) Beyond Repair Records 2006
Trunk O Tuned Skulls (CDr, Mini) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2006
An Evening Of Contemporary Sitar Metal (CDr, Album, Ltd) Not On Label 2007
Backstage Education - August Tour 2007 (4xCDr, Ltd, 1st) Not On Label 2007
Backstage Education - August Tour 2007 (4xCDr, Ltd, 2nd) Not On Label 2007
Caeduceus & Black Sal (CD, Album, Ltd) Memoirs Of An Aesthete 2007
Clacton Pier Death EP (CDr, EP) Smokers Gifts 2007
Dame Whiskey, Mary Jane (CDr, Album, Ltd) U-Sound Archive 2007
Four Raga Moods (CDr, Album, Ltd) Revival (2) 2007
Hosianna Mantrap (CDr, Album, Ltd) Oneiros Recordings 2007
Running On Autokinetic (CDr, Ltd) Not On Label 2007
Split (CDr, Ltd) Ruralfaune 2007
Those Are Pearls That Were His Eyes (CDr, Album, Ltd) Revival (2) 2007
Throw Up In The Sky / With Fine Clinking Magnets (LP) Qbico 2007
Untitled (CDr, Ltd) absurd 2007
1995-1997 Hands Under Water Reaching For Nothing (CDr, Album, Ltd) Revival (2) 2008
A Monument To British Rock (3xLP, Ltd) Smokers Gifts 2008
Chocolate Concrete (CDr, Mini, Ltd) Not On Label 2008
Idiot Music Lavatory Floor (2xCDr, Ltd) Not On Label 2008
Mouth / Astrid (IX & VI) (Cass, C40) Sick Head 2008
Srpls Provncl Hrbs (CDr, Album, Ltd) Not On Label 2008
The Creamwheel (CDr, Album, Ltd) Not On Label 2008
The Black Clock (Cass) 2008

Oh, I C

That's the same as the one Jicoito posted. Same site too. Everyone knows discog anyway, even Phil Todd's mum.

pm dylan nyoukis?

i'm positive there is no an complete discography on the net, plus discogs is updated by users, so like jico said, add the ones that you know are missing and then maybe someone else can fill in on details and add more in time.

i did try! sorry!!

I would PM Smoker's Gifts, although I'm pretty sure Jon Boy knows the Phil (and Phil and Melanie [?]).

This thread has inspired me to remember my password, and it was easy after all that! Been away a while, gone through 3 hard drives in 6 months and here I am.

Phil Todd has said he doesn't keep a comprehensive discography, because it's not something that interests him. But it's really great so many people are taking the time to gather it all together.
There's already at least 4 more newbies to add to that lot! The vinyl edition of Red Culture, Animal Interior, FUZZBOTTLE PHENOMENA (cdr)

EARLY YEARS/TAPE MUCK 1994-1997 (10!!!! x cdr, this is a box set of early tape releases, some or all of which may or may not be on discogs!)


They can be ordered direct from Mr Todd through his myspace, except the box set which is sold out with a reissue planned. There is also a split LP with Family Battle Snake on Absurd coming out any day now, and releases on 8mm and students of decay forcing themselves out of the pipe sometime.
Maybe I can get him on here to provide the final word.
As we're on the subject, I was meaning to say that Ashtray Navigations are doing 3 dates in Europe, with a more extensive tour planned for early 2009. They are as follows:

9 Oct 2008 21:30 Nieuwe Kerk Den Haag Den Haag 10 Oct 2008 20:00 Amsterdam, HALLO GALLO night OCII AMSTERDAM, Noord-Holland 11 Oct 2008 20:00 The Bunker Brussels with Sic Alps Brussels, Brussels-capital
Hope to meet some of you at those.

whats a good release to start with?

Probably any of the ones that are still in print! Seriously, if you pick any of the stuff Phil has on his myspace page you wont be disappointed! And he just now has a red vinyl LP going for £7! Bargain. And Fuzzbottle Phenomena is ace too, and Snakestrings, and Srpls Prnvncl Hrbs- Ah shit, they're all good!
I've never seen or heard anyone say Mr Todd has put out a single bad release. All of it is at least above average. But maybe they just say that behind his back! ;-)
I'm going bed now, sorry for not replying.

cheers man

i love ash nav. at least what ive heard anyways, i own 3 records by them.

Hi - this is Phil here - interested to read this thread.
I'm afraid I have never kept a discography, I don't have a "librarian" mind unfortunately and there's a lot of early tapes that I no longer have copies of. The Discogs discography is missing most of the early cassettes, and has a bit of wrong info in general (The Black Clock is definitely not from 2008, it is a 90s release) but it seems to have most of the CDRs.
I could recommend some stuff, but you'd have to tell me if you are intertested in the more "rock" stuff, the psych stuff or the walls of screeching noise stuff. Or take a look at myspace.com/ashtraynavigations as the full list of everything in print is there.
Thanks for your interest in my music!

I'm now so quotable that I'm being quoted on things I've never even said!

you did say that, and you're not even all that quote-worthy either.

Thanks Phil. I'll send you a pm on myspace.

what? I cant believe how the thread turned out. perfect

class act of phil to drop by and take the time to give us an answer.

this is a super comprehensive ash nav discog, only for reading though, no download files.

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ashtray+Navigations

How would you know that it is a comprehensive discography?

i do know phil yes. there is literally so much that he/they have done that phil himself cant keep up with it.

try the betley welcomes careful drivers site or contact him direct for more details i guess:http://www.discogs.com/artist/Ashtray+Navigations

this is Phil again.............Hi Jon! ........................If the Betley Welcomes Careful Drivers site is still up it is way out of date. BWCD closed in 2001! The discogs site seems to have most of the CDRs except the very recent stuff. I rarely put dates on the covers but I'm sure some of the dates listed on discogs are wrong, if you should care about such things.
Don't go asking my mother......the only response she ever had to my records was when I showed her the 1st 7 inch and she asked "is this a CD?....well, its a funny looking record"....

because its huge, fuck man i duno, why are you such a pain in the ass?

It's not a cock, it's a mace.

No less than four people have referenced and/or linked to discogs in this thread. Surely that must be some kind of record.