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evollove 06.23.2008 07:48 AM

"Hope and change?"
 
Fuck that. I'm voting for despair and stagnation.

PAULYBEE2656 06.23.2008 08:39 AM

mazzy star and fresh clothes?

Toilet & Bowels 06.23.2008 08:49 AM

there is no hope, only an arduous path to the grave

Cantankerous 06.23.2008 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
there is no hope, only an arduous path to the grave

i got one foot in there already.

sarramkrop 06.23.2008 09:02 AM

There is hope and change but by the time fairness will prevail everyone who's posting on this forum will probably be dead and buried.

floatingslowly 06.23.2008 09:55 AM

I hope to change my shoes when I get home.

demonrail666 06.23.2008 09:56 AM

Hope and change is only as good as what it is you want to change and what you hope to change it into.

floatingslowly 06.23.2008 10:04 AM

they are adidas.

tesla69 06.23.2008 10:23 AM

I hope I get an erection and then I will change my condom.

floatingslowly 06.23.2008 10:35 AM

so what you are saying is, right now you are flacid with a used condom on.

gotta tell ya, that's pretty gross.

!@#$%! 06.23.2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
Fuck that. I'm voting for despair and stagnation.


that's so 20th century

 


boring.

✌➬ 06.23.2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
that's so 20th century

 


boring.



I remember when I was a nirvana fanatic, I would read over that. I am over it.

girlgun 06.23.2008 12:27 PM

hope only serves to make you miserable.

Savage Clone 06.23.2008 12:29 PM

Hope is for the hopeful.
By which I mean "suckers."

✌➬ 06.23.2008 12:30 PM

People who only hope are dumb, in order for change one must initiate it. Not wait for it to happen.

Savage Clone 06.23.2008 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ✌➬
People who only hope are dumb, in order for change one must initiate it. Not wait for it to happen.


You mean like making slingshots "for when the revolution comes," right?

Rob Instigator 06.23.2008 12:43 PM

hope is the one thing keeping many huamns from comminitng suicide, and that is a good thing.

the opposite of hope is not hopelessness, it is despair, which is a horrible emotion

!@#$%! 06.23.2008 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ✌➬
People who only hope are dumb, in order for change one must initiate it. Not wait for it to happen.


exactly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
hope is the one thing keeping many huamns from comminitng suicide, and that is a good thing.

the opposite of hope is not hopelessness, it is despair, which is a horrible emotion


despair eats it.

fuck despair and his acolytes.

---

anyway for certain readings the hope in pandora's box was also a terrible evil.

expecting only good things to come is clearly delusional-- but having the expectation that one's efforts & strategies will pay off is what keeps us going.

let's roast the hopeless & eat their innards-- so they can be good for something.

ha ha ha.

no, seriously.

█████████ 06.23.2008 01:10 PM

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despair is for losers.

!@#$%! 06.23.2008 01:13 PM

thinking about it, there are instances when there is nothing left to do and you know the bullet is coming to your forehead and you have to accept it as the reality it is-- such situations are hopeless because there is no realistic "good outcome".

but that doesn't mean you crap your pants.

█████████ 06.23.2008 01:38 PM

 

sobriquet 06.23.2008 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
Fuck that. I'm voting for despair and stagnation.

You're about 15 years out of date.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Hope is for the hopeful.
By which I mean "suckers."


No. Hope is for the hopeless. I wouldn't exactly call such people suckers.

Rob Instigator 06.23.2008 02:28 PM

the past 8 years have been ALL despair and stagnation!

hope you enjoyed it!

✌➬ 06.23.2008 02:31 PM

What no Love for Bush? He is the bet president we ever had.

Rob Instigator 06.23.2008 02:33 PM

it is true though, anyone an become president in america, even a rich bastard, blue blood near-retard who drank and snorted cocaine vigorously for over 20 years and never held a job until he was over 40 years old.

america, the land of opportunity

✌➬ 06.23.2008 02:34 PM

Capitalism, I love it.

Toilet & Bowels 06.23.2008 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
they are adidas.


they make the best trainers.

sobriquet 06.23.2008 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ✌➬
What no Love for Bush? He is the be[s]t president we ever had.


Subtract any sarcasm that it might have had and I'd agree with this, actually.

✌➬ 06.23.2008 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sobriquet
Subtract any sarcasm that it might have had and I'd agree with this, actually.


You're kidding right? Oh, I see what you are doing there.

acousticrock87 06.23.2008 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
thinking about it, there are instances when there is nothing left to do and you know the bullet is coming to your forehead and you have to accept it as the reality it is-- such situations are hopeless because there is no realistic "good outcome".

but that doesn't mean you crap your pants.

Even in those situations, there's no practical reason to give up hope. If you think you can duck in your last second, it's one more second that's happier than it could be. Petty, but you still might be able to duck, and that's worth something.

sobriquet 06.23.2008 03:11 PM

The fact that you 'despair-heads' are still alive, kind of suggests you do subscribe to hope.Even if you killed yourselves then you'd still be subscribing to it. You can't escape it. But there is the hope of escape.

acousticrock87 06.23.2008 03:13 PM

 

✌➬ 06.23.2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87
 


OMG, how did you know my first relationship started that way.

DeadDiscoDildo 06.24.2008 12:54 AM

^^haha

Everyneurotic 06.24.2008 01:10 AM

doom thread.

!@#$%! 06.24.2008 10:12 AM

you fuckers are so emo

evollove 06.24.2008 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
Fuck that. I'm voting for despair and stagnation.


^Funny? No?


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