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Glice 07.04.2008 12:11 PM

Sexy/ sexless
 
I was just listening to a band of someone from this board (who shall remain nameless) and I noticed that while it wasn't very good, what made it abysmal was that it entirely lacked sex. Utterly, utterly sexless. Like NIN. Who are basically Prince but without the sexy bits. Or Westlife. In spite of all their songs being about girls and love and stuff, there is absolutely nothing sexy about the music itself.

Meanwhile, it doesn't really matter what the Cramps sing, they're just sexy.

So, two questions - if you like sexless music (which you probably do if you don't understand what I mean), why?
second, which bands are sexy in spite of that not really making sense? I'm thinking TG and the like (but not necessarily industrial).

Or am I blathering crap?

This Is Not Here 07.04.2008 12:34 PM

Your not. I've always considered Sonic Youth sexy, whilst not often lyrically about such things. For example, I've very nearly got the horn before from listening to Kim's vocals on Doctor's Orders and Blink. It's interesting when discussing SY lyrics a couple of monthes ago alot of people claimed Dude Ranch Nurse was "about sex", but theres very little lyrically to suggest thing, it's just a sexy track. I shall have a think about other bands too.

Glice 07.04.2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by This Is Not Here
Your not. I've always considered Sonic Youth sexy, whilst not often lyrically about such things. For example, I've very nearly got the horn before from listening to Kim's vocals on Doctor's Orders and Blink. It's interesting when discussing SY lyrics a couple of monthes ago alot of people claimed Dude Ranch Nurse was "about sex", but theres very little lyrically to suggest thing, it's just a sexy track. I shall have a think about other bands too.


Yeah! Shaking Hell, Shadow of a doubt... that's precisely what I mean, that sort of sex that's almost threatening...

This Is Not Here 07.04.2008 01:27 PM

I get it, and I think it's a very good and thought provoking thread. However it will invariably descend into similar territory to the 'hot chicks in bands' thread.

acousticrock87 07.04.2008 03:36 PM

NIN sexless? Argh. Sex and NIN is almost like a drug.

demonrail666 07.04.2008 03:42 PM

Yes, TG, definitely. Goa trance makes me think of up-for-it Israeli girls in sarongs with back tattoos.

Metal is not sexy at all. And strangely, despite the fact that it's all about sex, I find Serge Gainsbourgh's music very asexual.

The Cramps are very sexy indeed, but more when they aren't being explicitely sexy in their lyrics. Human Fly is just filthy.

I rarely find sexy lyrics particularly effective, although The The's Infected album is quite dirty. Ditto everything by Soft Cell.

GrungeMonkey 07.04.2008 04:39 PM

please say this was something i did.

Pookie 07.04.2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I rarely find sexy lyrics particularly effective, although The The's Infected album is quite dirty.

Yes, sleazy rather than sexy. I sometimes forget how good Infected is.

"She was lying on her back
with her lips parted.
Squealing like a stuffed pig
I was going through the motions
faking the emotions,
and wriggling around like a lizard in a tin."

demonrail666 07.04.2008 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Yes, sleazy rather than sexy. I sometimes forget how good Infected is.

"She was lying on her back
with her lips parted.
Squealing like a stuffed pig
I was going through the motions
faking the emotions,
and wriggling around like a lizard in a tin."


I bought it again recently on CD. Its production has dated quite badly but still stands up as a good album. Strangely, tracks I was never that into at the time (Heartland, for example) are the ones I listen to far more now. 'Angels of Deception' and 'Sweet Bird of Truth' will always be a classic at Rail towers though. It's a strange album really. Completely of its time, but somehow unlike any other produced during it. One the decade's best definitely.

Savage Clone 07.04.2008 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Ditto everything by Soft Cell.


"Seedy Films"=amazing

Pookie 07.04.2008 05:00 PM

Who's that in your avatar dr666?

demonrail666 07.04.2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Who's that in your avatar dr666?


Julian Cope. Yours?

demonrail666 07.04.2008 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by acousticrock87
NIN sexless? Argh. Sex and NIN is almost like a drug.


Yeah, valium.

Pookie 07.04.2008 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Julian Cope. Yours?

Arthur Mullard

acousticrock87 07.04.2008 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Yeah, valium.

More like...

No I can't think of anything witty.

o o o 07.04.2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Julian Cope. Yours?


it's that girl from Missouri he posted two times in the Hot Chicks IN BANDS thread about, everyone should know her name by now...

Toilet & Bowels 07.04.2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Metal is not sexy at all. And strangely, despite the fact that it's all about sex,


teenage/repressed homo-eroticism

Savage Clone 07.04.2008 05:46 PM

Metal these days is way more about Satan and/or the forest and/or properly applying the roll of a 20-sided die than sexual relations of any kind.

Except for grindcore, or course. Sexual relations with festering severed limbs=always a good time.

demonrail666 07.04.2008 05:53 PM

Haha. Black metal can have a strangely kinky side to it I suppose.

Glice 07.04.2008 08:51 PM

Soft Cell are filth - their only non-sexy song was sex dwarf, which is all over the EBM scene, because that's a scene about speed and not sex. I have a theory about happy hardcore whereby it's all about sex-metaphors about drugs, as opposed to drug-metaphors about sex. I still love it though.

Everyneurotic 07.04.2008 10:09 PM

i find some doom to be quite sexy, like electric wizard's "funeralopolis", that's a sexy riff.

but mostly metal is more about other physical activity.

i think both my bands/projects are quite sexy, if rather unconventionally so.

sarramkrop 07.07.2008 03:44 AM

Unless you have an up and running sex life, or, better still, a colourful social life to draw inspiration from you can forget about making records that sound sexy. There are exceptions to this, though.

MellySingsDoom 07.07.2008 05:53 AM

Sexy - Francoise Hardy, Scott Walker, Portishead, The Carpenters, The Ting Tings (um.....), My Bloody Valentine, The Birthday Party, The Jesus and Mary Chain, Loop, and Sleep's "Jerusalem" (it has a wooziness about it that it narcotic and seductive). Agree with the calls on T Gristle and Soft Cell.

Sexless - Meat Loaf (sorry Meat, but "Deadringer For Love" is about as sexy as a pile of washing up), Psychic TV (pretty meh musically at the best of times, "Dreams Less Sweet" aside, and I can think of nothing more erection-destroying than looking at Genesis P Orridge's multi-pierced cock), Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing" (a song I confess to have never liked, and to me the feeling of the song is more of a wank than a good, sensual screw), UK Bassline/Garage music in general (I don't "get" this type of music personally, but can see why the laydeez are into it), the Nelly-brand of R&B-lite (ugh!), Beck, Primal Scream, Spacemen 3 (really so much more a proper narcotic band - I like 'em a lot, but wouldn't think them as being sexy).

Toilet & Bowels 07.07.2008 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Spacemen 3


what about their suicide song?

MellySingsDoom 07.07.2008 07:23 AM

Hmm, good call, T&B. I hadn't thought of that one. I was thinking more along the lines of "Rollercoaster" and "When Tomorrow Hits" - pure smacked-out reveries.

Pookie 07.07.2008 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Sexy - ...The Carpenters...

I'm not averse to a bit of Carpenters now and then. But sexy?!?

MellySingsDoom 07.07.2008 07:34 AM

Yeah, they make me feel all wanting to get cuddly and touchy and intimate with someone.

Hmm, was that too much information? Probably :o

greedrex 07.07.2008 07:38 AM

Serge Gainsbourg has composed the sexiest music ever.
Melody Nelson is music to fuck to.
er to make love to sorry

Toilet & Bowels 07.07.2008 07:59 AM

the last thing i'd want to hear when boning would be some french bastard crooning away

greedrex 07.07.2008 08:01 AM

some French bastard crooning away????
what?????????
hey????




yeah you're right.

MellySingsDoom 07.07.2008 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
the last thing i'd want to hear when boning would be some french bastard crooning away


You must hand out more Sasha Distel LPs and bottles of Cointreau before giving a big plate of Freedom Fries to Toilet & Bowels again.

Everyneurotic 07.07.2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefeli
...and i cant get out of my mind "my"/our(me &best friend) recent joke about thrash metal and sex.


do tell it.

Everyneurotic 07.07.2008 10:44 AM

fair enough.

sarramkrop 07.07.2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefeli
impolite if i dont reply, but its rather sexist-racist-badtaste, especially if i describe it in written.


You're on a forum demonrail666 posts on. At least one person will find the joke funny, so you can't loose.

demonrail666 07.07.2008 11:07 AM

I'm all ears (or I should say eyes). Hang on, before you start, let my slide my swastika arm band on first. Racist jokes always seem funnier when I wear it.

sarramkrop 07.07.2008 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nefeli
what if the next time i do this joke with my friend, it wont feel the same anymore after telling it here?





it is already changing...................







(i ll tell it. its not fair to waste people's time with that).


you little tease, c'mon.

Everyneurotic 07.07.2008 11:14 AM

 


dino is not amused.

sarramkrop 07.07.2008 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nefeli
i think we were seeing smth on telly, its not important, but thrash metal was on. the kind, telly plays (i say that, so i wont offend people who are fans!)
and i said, imagine fatgreazymetaldudes raping you (you:in general) in the back of the van.
the thing is that my friend isnt into music as we are. but he can tell/see things.

so whenever we hear some sort of that kind of music on smth telly shows, we do the fucking movement with hands and headbanging at the same time. we dont talk, when we do that, eitherway we laugh hard and are unable to talk. its one of our pantomima (=spell?) jokes.


Where's the punchline?:)

demonrail666 07.07.2008 11:17 AM

it wasn't racist enough. couldn't you have referred to them as "fatgreazyasianmetaldudes", instead? It would've been funnier.

Everyneurotic 07.07.2008 11:18 AM

i guess you had to be there.


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