Mushrooms are a power, not a drug, and power must be yielded wisely.. discuss.
 

"Mushrooms are a power, not a drug. Like all power, they must be yielded wisely."

Mushrooms are a power, not a drug.

What are your thoughts?

Are mushrooms a power or a drug?

I didn't read your link.

But I think mushrooms are a drug.

I'd said a drug, but I guess as you mentioned before, it's all about what you use them for, right?

explain?

You take them to get a result, like you do with all other drugs.

well yes and no. see, a 9mm Glock is always a pistol, regardless if you know this, or have ever seen a pistol, or know what a pistol does. And if you do not know what a pistol does, and you pick it up and shoot somebody, regardless of your knowledge, experience and intentions, you just fucking shot somebody!

so that being said, if mushrooms are a force or power in the world, then you dont have to be conscious of this fact for them to retain their powers upon consumption. They remain a power regardless of your awareness, just a pistol remains a tool of destruction even you don't intend to destroy anything at all!

Mesoamerican Mushroom Rituals

the result it entirely different however, which can affect this. For example, I take Holy Communion, which is bread and wine, but through my belief, intention and prayer it is no longer wine at all, but the actual blood and body of my God Jesus Christ. It is no longer the intoxicating/drug beverage made from grapes, it is human/divine blood, actual blood, not symbolic, and this I believe with sincere conviction.

The mushrooms are the same, though they may technically get you intoxicated like Communion Wine, the belief and intention of their use shifts the defining of what they are. After all, I do not take Communion to get the drug affects of the alcohol that I am consuming at the time.

[and on a side, sonic youth moment note, when we take communion we chant "Ineffible Ineffible Ineffible Holy Trinity...' and no matter what, always, for three years now! i hear in my head hear kim sing "ineffible.."]

I see where you're coming from, but I don't look at mushrooms like that.

A lot of people I know see shrooms as a power, and feel like they've found something or other once their trip is done.

When I do mushrooms, get get high and trip out. When it's over, I either try to go to sleep or I just pass out. Nothing found, nothing lost, just a good time.

It's a poison fucking with your brain making you "trip sac".
A few of my friends just got shrooms last night.
Too much fucking money for me though, man. I'll stick with liquer.

Yessss, poison.

I don't do them anymore, maybe sometime in the future though.

Rather spend what money I have on weed.

Mushrooms are awesome. I just laugh and watch tv and see the people coming out of the screen. Actually, I felt like everything was like the movie Videodrome when I did them. Except hilarious.

I could NOT stop laughing. I DROWNED in laughter.

But yeah, definitely a drug. I'd like to get some more and do some more before I say anything else. I guess technically you can use them to do powerful things and they open up your mind.. they helped me deal with some shit that was bothering me at the time.. but I dunno.

I always thought they were fungi, funguy.

Actually they are.

If anything is bothering me, I will not do shrooms. I've learned my lesson.

drug.

nothing spiritual is going on here.

my thoughts:

i don't do drugs anymore, but that said... i always preferred acid to mushrooms. if you're gonna get fucked, GET FUCKED.

this.

Heh, why not do METH then if you really wanna get fucked.

Mushrooms are a psychotropic drug. I used to likes them a lot, but they still drugs, at the end of the day.

How much do you pay and for what type?

i never have to pay for mushies, there is an abundance of mushrooms (liberty caps/Psilocybe semilanceata) grow here in the autumn and i've been picking every year since 1993, last year was one of the best and longest season yet probably because the summer was so shit and wet, there were still shrooms coming up at xmas!

i think this year could be very good aswell

Best thread title ever!

such friends, the way you are talking - it almost seems like you are suggesting
that mushrooms take you to a different reality that always exists. as in the power they have is to unlock a state of mind that is always present. Most people instead think its just making the reality you inhabit now feel different.

i would agree with you if this is what you are suggesting. i believe that all different states of reality exist simultaenously and by ingesting shrooms or whatever we simply unlock the door to them. a bit like changing the resolution on yr computer monitor only in your mind.

If humanity got to a state where shrooms became a part of our diet permanently and our brains eventually evolved to accomodate this then the laws of physics written would prob include explanations for monstors coming out the tv screen, or whatever trippy shit becomes the norm.

Shrooms are both a drug and a power. The more people take them, the more time humans spend on them, then the more their power becomes a part of society. However at the moment since they are taken by so few the reality of shrooms is limited in the potentials it can offer to deal with a generally non tripping society.

All power corrupts of course.

Oh for crying out loud, when you start beleiving psychedelic drugs are keys to unlock doors to alternative realities there is only one clear message to heed: STOP TAKING PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS!

yes, that is exactly I am saying. these things can be easily explained by current astrological cosmologies and deep equations of string theory, which suggest and almost demand the existence of alternate and parallel universes/dimensions that exist concurrently within each other. The chemicals in the fungus, once ingested and metabolized shift the focus of consciousness towards the perception of these alternate dimensions of existence. Further, you need not any substance to do this, rather any kind of meditation, prayer and even day dream can achieve this level of higher consciousness.

Oh for crying out loud, when you start beleiving psychedelic drugs are keys to unlock doors to alternative realities there is only one clear message to heed: STOP TAKING PSYCHEDELIC DRUGS!
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LHC not LSD is my transdimensional mantra.

yes, if you are referring to synthetics like LSD-25, MDMA, or PCP.

However, Daturas, certain mushrooms, a mescaline cacti, DMT, and hundreds of other hallucinogenic plants are all naturally occurring, in fact, your brain already produces low quantities of DMT for a yet unknown purpose, the same way it produces THC and morphine as endorphins and endocannibinoids

I accept that these naturally occuring chemicals can alter the consciousness of the human mind to enhance perception.

so what are you in doubt:

a) the existence of these alternate dimensions of existence

and/or

b) the ability of certain plants to alter consciousness and allow perception of these said dimensions

c) the ability at all to perceive this universe, by any means?

^^^ I'm about reposting statements I agree with in large bold text when all other rep means fail. :)


and.....hi. I used to grow psilocybe cubensis in petri dishes (note to DEA agents following Mr. Dangerous: over 9000 years ago). had they indeed held power, I would be fucking Dr. Doom by now.

My definition of a drug:
something you sniff, shoot, inhale, or inject, suck on, let in through your pores, eat, or insert into your butt that affects someone's mind/nerves OR acts as a catalyst for a bodily function- pooping, antibody creation, etc OR alters your levels of bodily chemicals OR affects your blood pressure/heart rate OR rids or helps rid your body of an alien presence.

I think shrooms fit under my definition.

yes, I am sure the bag-o-wire are all around, but DEA is a bit high ranking for little ol me. so could I put you down for agreeing with A, B and C then?

Bag-O-Wire in Websters

and now for the real definition: bag-o-wire is the name given to the three FBI informants who sold out Marcus Garvey to a young Mr. J. Edgar Hoover. today it remains slang for any agent or informant

FBI reports on marcus Garvey

things within my definition of a drug fit that list, but for I-man

drug= synthetic

there are chemicals in an apple that can affect heart rate or mood but we do not think of fruit as being psychotropic..

I kid. I am a kidder. we both know it's the FBI.



yes, but...OH SHIT MAN IT'S THE POL---

what like mountain dew?

Okay, then cannabis is not a drug either, nor is cocaine, etc.

^^^
this

If everything that has occured naturally is good,
should I reconsider Sum 41 ?

No no no no no!!!

lol

This is a ridiculous thread.