So in case the LHC does kill us all tomorrow...
 

Say some things here. Thread will be re-created before 21st October, when the first high energy collisions take place.

I'd miss you crazy muthafuckers if this happened.

what?
please clear me up :)

see you in hell.

thats not clearing up. at least not for me

The Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is the world's largest particle accelerator complex, intended to collide opposing beams of 7 TeV protons. Its main purpose is to explore the validity and limitations of the Standard Model, the current theoretical picture for particle physics. The LHC was built by the European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN), and lies under the Franco-Swiss border near Geneva, Switzerland.

The LHC is the world's largest and the highest-energy particle accelerator.[ It is funded and built in collaboration with over eight thousand physicists from over eighty-five countries as well as hundreds of universities and laboratories.
The collider is currently undergoing commissioning while being cooled down to its final operating temperature of approximately 1.9 K (−271.25 °C). Initial particle beam injections were successfully carried out on 8-11 August 2008, the first attempt to circulate a beam through the entire LHC is scheduled for 10 September 2008, and the first high-energy collisions are planned to take place after the LHC is officially unveiled, on 21 October 2008 .
When activated, it is theorized that the collider will produce the elusive Higgs boson, the observation of which could confirm the predictions and missing links in the Standard Model of physics and could explain how other elementary particles acquire properties such as mass.
Although a few individuals have questioned the safety of the planned experiments in the media and through the courts, the consensus in the scientific community is that there is no basis for any conceivable threat from the LHC particle collisions.

The Large Hadron Collider has been featured in a number of novels, including Flashforward by Robert J. Sawyer, Black Hole, by Angelo Paratico, and Decipher by Stel Pavlou, which described it in some detail. One of the most visible examples is Angels & Demons by Dan Brown, which involves dangerous antimatter created at the LHC used as a weapon against the Vatican. CERN published a "Fact or Fiction?" page discussing the accuracy of the book's portrayal of the LHC, CERN, and particle physics in general. The movie version of the book had footage filmed on-site at one of the experiments at the LHC; the director, Ron Howard, also met with CERN experts in an effort to make the science in the story more accurate. BBC Radio 4 will be broadcasting "Big Bang Day" on 10 September 2008 to coincide with LHC being switched on. Included in this event will be a radio episode of the TV series Torchwood, with a plot surrounding the LHC, entitled Lost Souls. Katherine McAlpine, aka "alpinekat", a science writer working at CERN, wrote the lyrics for a personal rap video about the LHC called the "The Large Hadron Rap". The song was added to YouTube on July 28, 2008, and, as of September 6th, it had been viewed more than a million time




fuck me!!!!!!!
read the rest of the blurb here

...well, if it does kill us all, I'll miss the ATP festival in December. Crap!

ah yes. under hamburg here is such a thing too. was the biggest some time ago I think

Hooray for the possibility of creating black holes.

teeny tiny smaller than a proton black holes, which exist for less than a millisecond,a nd instantly "evaporate" will do NO harm to anything

grow up people! READ SCIENCE!!!!

I can tell you what happened, switzerland is a direct neighbour, hahaha

that is, assuming Hawking is/was right.

mayhaps they require critical mass before they emit Hawking radiation and "evaporate".

:)

*crosses diodes*

Just read that the evaporation of black holes is a THEORY ( by Hawking ).

I would much rather assume a fucking genius like hawking is right than a bunch of no-science-reading freakouts!

despite the quote, I'm going to assume that you aren't talking to me. :)

please note: even fucking geniuses are wrong sometimes.

you know the "law" of gravitation by newton is actually a Theory?

You know relativity is a "theory?"

sxcientists know that nothing can ever be fully 100% understood or proven, because of the near infinite nature of our universe. the word "law" in science means a theory that has been tested and tested and tested and nothing ahs ever show it to eb wrong. the instant something does a theory/law is thrown out.

ablak hole that tine, and the universe is populated by maybe TRILLIONS of them, can fly right through a solid object like the earyh without ever interactig wityh even one bit of matter.

neutrinos do the sam ething. each second you are bombarded by millions of neutrinos travelling at lioght speed shooting out of our uper atmosphere andthe sun, and they do nothiong/

chills! it's just science!

who said they were not?

I said I will take a genius' educated and extremely well informed guess ove rthe hye of thousands of dolts talking mad smack about shit they know nothing about.

easy tiger, all I'm saying is I'd never put all the money on "currently predicted by theory".

beyond that, there's really no worry.

this world has 4 more years.

:)

lets see, is tomorrow the day where the blackholes will be procuced maybe? or is that in october?

Hey, how about this: whatever happens happens.

they fire it up on the 10th.

Large Hard-on Collider panic pops up everytime they warm it up though.

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and as Rob is starting to prove, it's not just the kooks that get c-c-c-razy over it.

lulz.

ok if tomorrow no black holes then no blck holes in october? or doesnt anybody know when they will doin that?

Everyone needs to just chill out because you can't do anything about it. If the earth blows up, then the earth blows up. People seem to have a real hard time accepting things that they have no control over.

aaaargh.
I just wanna know, it just interests me, I ve heard from it the first time, a few minutes ago...

I'm just trying to drink my coffee.

what did I do?

:)

what if hawkins made a fundamental mistake in his theories decades ago.... surely all his arguement would be inaccurate and widely wrong then..

im not saying he did, just posing an interesting hypothetical situation on this world!

hawkins in a real international treasure. i saw a bbc doc about him a few months ago, totally strange character, totally meglointellectual! compelling viewing.....

yep, its called lack of control.. the root to most phobias... fear of flying, etc...

if he made a mistake and we're all fucked...oh well.

i don't know how many times i can repeat myself.

27 times!

alright.

just keep chillin. it will all work out in the end. we're probably not going to get blown up, and even if we do, it's not the end of the world.

or is it?

like the people who elected bush and now wanna vote for mcsame... i hear you brother...

for me yes, only a few hundred kiloters away hahaha

stop acting like the calm and rational one, 'tanky.

yr disappointing me.

seriously, what's gotten into you??!

:(

RAGE MORE PLEASE!

i was taking the piss.

or was i?

The big difference is that relativity and gravitation can be checked or tested on earth , unlike black holes which are out of reach.
Plus , they absorb light and everything that comes near ; I've read they're the less known objects in the universe.
To me , Hawking theory is just an hypothesis ( but I'm no expert , as you can guess ).

*shrug*

does the higgs bosom exist?

odds - yes 4.25 no 7.24

paypal me your money now!

theories do not just sit around man, people are constantly looking to topple them, to prove them wrong, or to gather evidence of their correectness.
the scientists at CERN said "anyone who thinks the world is goiing to end because of the LHC is a twit."

hahah!

twit!

hypothesis are guesses made before any experiment,

theories are explanations based on all current evidence and taking into account all current knowledge. two wholy different things. Hawking understands quantum mechanics as well as anyone can. it is a strange strange science, and none of it fits "common sense", because "common sense" only applies to the human macro level of the universe (what goes up must come down. wate flows downhill, bend it and it will break eventually, etc.)
in the quantum world superfluids flow UPHILL against gravity, supersolids allow other material to pass through without seeming solid! etc.

heavy electricity

bad clouds

more intresting shit about lhc

I think this thread needs a big hug.

:)