pete nolan...
 

this is NOT a magik markers lovers vs. haters thread. i merely feel like i need to point out how fucking amazing of a drummer pete nolan is. it never really ocurred to me. i was just watching a markers performance from 06, it appears that leah already left and they had two extra guitar players surrounding elisa. so, they are still in full on harmolodic cock noise early no doctors type mode. but i couldnt help but notice that nolan's drumming is always in sync, no mateer how atonal and chaotic the music gets, hes still holding a beat and a rhythm. his drumming is so expansive and hypnotic that elisa can pretty much yelp anything she wants, and play any distorded guitar riff she wants, and the drumming still holds it together. on 'boss', his amazing drumming is even more important, because with the new poetic patti smith thing elisa had started working with, she is able to pull it off because she just seems to let her voice and lyrics and guitar playing get sucked into the vortex of pete's rhythm, makes for an almost soul invading type sound. and, i know there's lots of markers haters on here (hell, i used to be one of em), but their tunes are making more and more sense to me. 'boss' not only has changed my opinion about them, but it also has made the earlier records make more sense and sound better. but anyways, nolan is beast. that is all.

Yeah, I love the drumming in Magik Markers.

i never was quite able to put my finger on the Magik markers but I have loved them from the start. Besides an amazing drummer pete's also super nice!

Still reminds me of that MM documentary by Kesin due someday hopefully.
i have a feeling that's gonna give a different and new insight in the MM legacy.

I promised the band themselves that I wouldn't say anything bad about them anymore. So, I won't. And I don't have to in this case: Pete is a great drummer.

he remarked that kim and thurston went to one of thier shows and kim told him he was a great drummer which made him nearly fall of his seat.

i have always liked his drumming and he seems like a thoroughly decent fella.

Good drummer indeed. I´ve have only heard "boss" but think that is a pretty good record

folk spectre/spectre folk/etc. is good; i also dig ghq.

the best thing about the markers opening for dinosaur jr was that he was basically playing a broken drum set, it was all held together with tape and all the cymbals were cracked; that was cool.

pete is indeed a damn fine drummer but more so he is one of the nicest people you could ever spend an evening with.... and he drinks irish whiskey so he cant be that bad!

he does also reply to emails too even to say thanks for the support.

i read your review about that show on your blog. you seemed fairly stoked on the markers. what changed? were in kind of the opposite boat, i used to hate them now i think theyre great.

the bark haze record he was on was fucking rad too.

I've really dug his Spectre Sports lineup live
(Pete Nolan Julie Tomlinson, Russ Waterhouse and Lea Cho)
and the 3lobed CD...a versatile player for sure..

short answer: they released i trust my guitar, etc.

actual answer: i liked blues for randy sutherland tons, i still like it actually, and i was still stoked on that album when i saw them, and i cut them some slack, thinking it wasn't really their fault they weren't good when i saw them, then i saw more videos of them and basically, unless elisa got hit or they did something else that seemed studied and calculated, but otherwise they were always the same live.

i don't think elisa is talented at all, pete is though. they can work that to their advantage or not; like i said, i like randy sutherland a lot, i like a panegeric...some and i love road pussy too; but other than that, i find them very tiresome and trite.

i like the mix between the epic, sweeping drumming, its so musical, and elisa's barely coherent guitar playing and guttural mutterings (on the early records), i thought her voice on 'boss' was actuall beautiful to be honest. 'tell me something, when you dont come home', i love that opening line. man, i feel so bad about talking so much shit on that band, i really think theyll be around for a while.

You know what drummer rules but whose band is awful? The drummer from Slipknot. Haha.

which one there's like 3

you know who has 10 shit drummers, 1 good drummer, and is fucking amazing? $hit and $hine

Actually, after the self-titled album, I think Joey became the only drummer. The other two members became dancers and backup vocalists haha. Seriously, I saw them on.. uh.. David Letterman I think, and the clown dude just randomly hit things with a baseball bat and danced the macarena or something. That band's hilarious.

they were always like that, the clown always had like trashcans and barrels and the other guy had like 3 floor toms, that guy spends most of the band's set climbing his rig, and the clown hits his head and makes a gun gesture with his hands pointed to his head.

shit and shine can be great or worse than the magik markers, depending on which album they are playing.

cunt with roses is a headfuck. the only thing ive heard this decade that sounds something like sister ray.

Well, I know they were always like that to an extent, but after the self-titled album that element of the band severely decreased. Which is sad, because as stupid and neandrethal as it was, slipknot's self-titled had some almost-brilliant almost-modern-classical sounding intros to some of their songs. Very creepy and disturbing and they did some stuff that sounds like nothing I've ever heard, especially from a mainstream nu metal shitty band. Listen to "scissors".. that song is terrifying. A lot of that can probably be traced back to Ross Robinson, who is a pretty brilliant producer, like him or not.

But anyway, after that album, they pretty much JUST became dancers and shit.

I never understood slipknot... two guys who can barely play guitar (one of the guys seems to come up with some catchy and inventive riffs though but the other guy is pointless), a bassist I've never been able to hear period, 2 dancers, a guy who PRESSES A BUTTON (seriously, the "sampler" of this band, he has a big red metal box in front of him with a big red button he presses once about every 5 songs), and a DJ who is almost never used except on the early stuff. That leaves 3 non-pointless members, though Cory is a pretty crappy vocalist.

Anyway, all 9 of them are millionaires.

ohhh you meant on record.

yeah, they used to be polyrhythmic.

the self titled is a really good album, i still listen to it; iowa is ok, the subliminal whatever was retarded though the single was the only good song (you know, they always have a song that's exactly the same as "wait and bleed", iowa had "left behind", the third album had "duality"). i downloaded the new one but haven't listened to it yet.

From the few songs I've heard, the new one sounds pretty damn good, wait better than vol. 3.

I love self-titled.. prosthetics is GREAT.