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LittlePuppetBoy 11.21.2008 12:42 AM

Chinese Democracy.....NOW STREAMING!
 
Finally! The long awaited (snirk, snirk) album by the Grammy Award winning (snirk, snirk, snirk) rock band Guns N (snirk) Roses is now available to listen to on myspace!






and it SSUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!


the singing on Street of Dreams is quite possibly the funniest thing I have heard all year.
http://ca.myspace.com/gunsnroses

Sonic Youth 37 11.21.2008 12:45 AM

Holy shit...that sounds like an infinitely shittier version of November Rain...wow. I'm going to have to go cleanse my ears.

GeneticKiss 11.21.2008 12:58 AM

Actually giving it a chance.

3 songs in, it seems like a mess. Industrial, trip hop, and standard Guns 'n' Roses rock colliding.

sarramkrop 11.21.2008 01:02 AM

This will cure my insomnia.

GeneticKiss 11.21.2008 01:15 AM

6 songs in...

It sounds like Axl Rose is trying to consolidate all music, ever.

Death & the Maiden 11.21.2008 01:23 AM

I listened to some of most of the songs. Some of it is awful, some of it isn't as awful.

uhler 11.21.2008 01:34 AM

i'm listening to the first song and it's godawful.

Everyneurotic 11.21.2008 01:41 AM

what's the final tracklisting?

i thought axl was going with the "doesn't sound that far away from the original" songs.

so chinese democracy is worse than i thought?

sarramkrop 11.21.2008 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

i thought axl was going with the "doesn't sound that far away from the original" songs.



He should have gone as far away from notes as possible.

Everyneurotic 11.21.2008 01:44 AM

axl should have become a sound artist.

Kegmama 11.21.2008 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
This will cure my insomnia.


By killing you? Don't do it Porky!

sarramkrop 11.21.2008 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kegmama
By killing you? Don't do it Porky!


I've listened to it for lack of better things to do this early in the morning, and now I fear a future attack of sleep epilepsy.

GeneticKiss 11.21.2008 03:12 AM

OK, it's over now.

Hmm...my objective review.

Good Stuff: Some alright guitar work, occassional weird bits of sound add depth, interesting array of styles

Bad Shit: Some very poorly excuted ideas, some absolutely horrible vocals/lyrics, plus the ending of the last song sounds too much like Bauhaus' "Bela Lugosi's Dead" to me

OK, I can't hold back anymore............................


I'm sorry to the myriads of G'n'R fans out there (especially the douche on their MySpace whom actually went as far as to call it "The Dark Side of the Moon for our generation"), but this was NOT worth waiting 15 years for in the slightest. Maybe if it had been released around the time the power (:rolleyes: ) the band once had (i.e. Appetite for Destruction) was still fresh, it might work more, but as it stands today...dear Lord. This record could very well make Axl Rose a complete laughingstock (even more than he is already) in the music world. I'll go so far to admit that some of the tracks had interesting bits, especially in the intros-but once the songs got started, they quickly went downhill (I actually liked "Madagascar" until all the dumbass samples kicked in).

Chinese Democracy is a great example of the phrase "TOO MUCH". As I said earlier, it sounds like Axl rose is trying to consolidate all music, ever. There is literally EVERYTHING musical on this record-dirty riffs, studio trickery, choirs, orchestras, guitar soloing of both the "speed" and "feel" variety, discordance, ambient soundscapes, sequencers, drum machines, multilayered vocals from Axl and what sounded like other people...hell, one track even starts out like trance, and there's some pseudo-rapping to boot. That may sound good in theory, but the end result sounds like he cut 'n' pasted a bunch of other bands' music (the intro to the one song sounds to me like the intro to Ministry's "The Dick Song", while "Madagascar" could be the worst song the Cure never wrote) overtop of what might've been OK Guns 'n' Roses songs. It is the sound of Axl Rose screaming at his detracters (sp?) in the music world, "Fuck you! I can do exactly what you're doing too, and better!", and falling flat on his face in the attempt.

I posted that I would give the album a chance, meaning that I would listen to a few tracks with an open mind, and if I didn't like what I'd heard, I'd just close the window and get on with my life. But in the end, I ended listening to the whole thing, because:

1. It's the musical equivalent of a car crash-you cannot look away, no matter how much you may want to

2. It's unintentionally hilarious and if nothing else, interesting to see how many styles/sounds Axl could've pulled out of his ass

3. I don't like giving up on things that I know will end, no matter how painful they might be

Sigh...oh, man.

I'll conclude by saying that I never had any problems with Axl Rose's voice before, but I do now...I don't know if it 100% because of this album or just the fact that I never considered myself enough of a G 'n' R fan to warrant getting any of their albums. So maybe his voice didn't bother me because I never had to listen to it for more than one song at a time?

sarramkrop 11.21.2008 03:22 AM

Did you really need to write a whole book to say that it's a bunch of irrelevant shit?

GeneticKiss 11.21.2008 03:24 AM

I was venting.

And giving a preview of how I think most of the reviews will read.

EDIT: Hmm...500 posts. Goodnight!

sarramkrop 11.21.2008 03:31 AM

Good morning.

It's a shit record by an irrelevant band which will probably sell by the bucketloads anyway, and if it doesn't, another shit record will sell a lot instead of this. What is there to vent about?

SuperCreep 11.21.2008 05:51 AM

I couldn't make it halfway past the first track.

Toilet & Bowels 11.21.2008 06:18 AM

If you actually listen to Guns N Roses old stuff it is quite apparent that they were shit in their heyday, so it should come as no surprise that their new record is shit too.

al shabbray 11.21.2008 06:26 AM

I would love to post the link of file2hd.com on his mspace site every 5 minutes just that everyne can rip the whole album of GnR and it will be a financial flop too. I think axl needs the money

atsonicpark 11.21.2008 07:12 AM

hahaha

lechaoscestmoi 11.21.2008 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
"The Dark Side of the Moon for our generation"

haha

Rob Instigator 11.21.2008 10:08 AM

I just want to hear It's So easy and Mr Brownstone.

greedrex 11.21.2008 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperCreep
I couldn't make it halfway past the first track.

hahahaahahahahahahahaha
the way you put it made me LOL
like "sorry dOOdz i TRIED, but i can't take it anymore"
hahahaha

greedrex 11.21.2008 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
OK, it's over now.

Hmm...my objective review.

Good Stuff: Some alright guitar work, occassional weird bits of sound add depth, interesting array of styles

Bad Shit: Some very poorly excuted ideas, some absolutely horrible vocals/lyrics, plus the ending of the last song sounds too much like Bauhaus' "Bela Lugosi's Dead" to me

OK, I can't hold back anymore............................


I'm sorry to the myriads of G'n'R fans out there (especially the douche on their MySpace whom actually went as far as to call it "The Dark Side of the Moon for our generation"), but this was NOT worth waiting 15 years for in the slightest. Maybe if it had been released around the time the power (:rolleyes: ) the band once had (i.e. Appetite for Destruction) was still fresh, it might work more, but as it stands today...dear Lord. This record could very well make Axl Rose a complete laughingstock (even more than he is already) in the music world. I'll go so far to admit that some of the tracks had interesting bits, especially in the intros-but once the songs got started, they quickly went downhill (I actually liked "Madagascar" until all the dumbass samples kicked in).

Chinese Democracy is a great example of the phrase "TOO MUCH". As I said earlier, it sounds like Axl rose is trying to consolidate all music, ever. There is literally EVERYTHING musical on this record-dirty riffs, studio trickery, choirs, orchestras, guitar soloing of both the "speed" and "feel" variety, discordance, ambient soundscapes, sequencers, drum machines, multilayered vocals from Axl and what sounded like other people...hell, one track even starts out like trance, and there's some pseudo-rapping to boot. That may sound good in theory, but the end result sounds like he cut 'n' pasted a bunch of other bands' music (the intro to the one song sounds to me like the intro to Ministry's "The Dick Song", while "Madagascar" could be the worst song the Cure never wrote) overtop of what might've been OK Guns 'n' Roses songs. It is the sound of Axl Rose screaming at his detracters (sp?) in the music world, "Fuck you! I can do exactly what you're doing too, and better!", and falling flat on his face in the attempt.

I posted that I would give the album a chance, meaning that I would listen to a few tracks with an open mind, and if I didn't like what I'd heard, I'd just close the window and get on with my life. But in the end, I ended listening to the whole thing, because:

1. It's the musical equivalent of a car crash-you cannot look away, no matter how much you may want to

2. It's unintentionally hilarious and if nothing else, interesting to see how many styles/sounds Axl could've pulled out of his ass

3. I don't like giving up on things that I know will end, no matter how painful they might be

Sigh...oh, man.

I'll conclude by saying that I never had any problems with Axl Rose's voice before, but I do now...I don't know if it 100% because of this album or just the fact that I never considered myself enough of a G 'n' R fan to warrant getting any of their albums. So maybe his voice didn't bother me because I never had to listen to it for more than one song at a time?


synthesis: AVOID THIS PIECE OF USELESS CRAP AT ALL COST:fuckyou::fuckyou::fuckyou:

sarramkrop 11.21.2008 10:16 AM

Bjork is famous.

greedrex 11.21.2008 10:22 AM

ha yeah

afterthefact 11.21.2008 10:39 AM

I mean, what were you all expecting? You are ranting like you thought it might be good. NOTHING GnR has ever done has been good, so, um... what's new?

greedrex 11.21.2008 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterthefact
I mean, what were you all expecting? You are ranting like you thought it might be good.

exactly. It surprised me to see the METALLICA dribbling but i could understand it, however you know Guns N Roses wow, people just uh leave it altogether!!!
 

lechaoscestmoi 11.21.2008 10:47 AM

i don't like gnr cuz kurt hated axl rose!!

afterthefact 11.21.2008 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lechaoscestmoi
i don't like gnr cuz kurt hated axl rose!!


I'm going to assume this is a joke :)

Hating on a new GnR albums reminds me of the time that Siskel (sp?) and Ebert (sp?) gave Good Burger 2 thumbs down. I mean, these things were meant to entertain people of lower intellect; Good Burger for the underdeveloped yet growing brains of children, and a new GnR album for the stupid, uninformed, and with a doubtful future of any growth, brains of adults.

Everyneurotic 11.21.2008 11:31 AM

 


to this day, one of my favorite albums.

sarramkrop 11.21.2008 11:43 AM

you're so uncool, man.

Everyneurotic 11.21.2008 11:44 AM

yeah, i have no cure.

sarramkrop 11.21.2008 11:46 AM

you're so making the journey from buddies list to my ignored one.

JohnEsmoke 11.21.2008 11:52 AM

A new Metallica...
A new Guns'n roses...
It seems that we're back in the begining of the 90's but, no new Nirvana will come to save our souls ! sad...

afterthefact 11.21.2008 12:16 PM

At this point, if Nirvana were still around, I doubt I would want to get a new album by them.

Glice 11.21.2008 12:38 PM

As Mr & Bowels says, it's pretty much the same as their early stuff. It sounds like the sort of thing I'd like if I liked it.

If it was MBV, a lot of people would be more inclined to say it was amazing. Actually, come to think about it, it would be amazing if MBV turned out an album as moderately ok as Chinese Democracy.

Inhuman 11.21.2008 12:46 PM

"Chinese Democracy in stores Nov 23rd. Only at Best Buy"

Only at BEST BUY? You're trying to sell an album that you took 11 years to make and you release it only at best buy of all places? Dead record shop owners are rollin in their graves.

The first 1:30 of the album is amazing, works well after listening to TLASILA. Then they try to sound like every band of existence. It's still not as horrible as people are claiming it is.

Everyneurotic 11.21.2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
you're so making the journey from buddies list to my ignored one.


you so wouldn't do that, you like our discussions.

besides porks, i didn't say you should listen to them.

sarramkrop 11.22.2008 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
you so wouldn't do that, you like our discussions.

besides porks, i didn't say you should listen to them.


joke


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