Royal Trux Reissues
 

I could have sworn I posted this yesterday but I can't find the post so I can only assume i didn't work. Anyway, on 20th Jan, Drag City are reissuing Twin Infinitives and one of the Self Titled records on vinyl. I am excited by this. Look here:

http://www.dragcity.com/catalog/records/dc3.html
http://www.dragcity.com/catalog/records/dc5.html

Apologies if this has already been posted. I could find any evidence of that being the case though.

TWIN INFINITIVES is......... good.... noise. ha.

That's good news. No extras though is a bit of a shame. There most have been arseloads for the TI sesions. I wonder if they'll shorten those huge gaps between the tracks on that album too.

glad i didn't spring for _Twin Infinitives_ via ebay...had plenty of chances to get that record in the day, but never did.

Royal Trux sucks. Horrible horrible.

Yeah, right.

i mean it.
how have you been ?

That's what I was thinking too. Because of the nature of that record, I'd have expected a lot of music that didn't make it to the album for this reissue. I'm not sure if I want to buy another copy on cd, the one I have sounds fine to these ears already.

I agree. There's absolutely no point in shelling out for a reissue of that particular album. It's a missed opportunity - especially given some of the tripe that's received the 'deluxe' and 'expanded' treatment. I'm sure in the case of Twin Infinitives they could've filled at least a disc with out-takes, alternative takes and live versions. And given that it's Drag City, they might've even seen fit to bundle it with a DVD of their rare movie 'What is Royal Trux' which I believe came from that period.

I'm just happy that it's being reissued on vinyl. I don't really want any extras, just the record as it was really. Maybe they could have accompanied the straight vinyl reissue with an expanded cd reissue.

extras can be ok when put on a separate disc, but i have no desire to rebuy albums i already own just so i can hear stuff that wasn't considered to be release worthy at the time

It's not about any desire to buy two copies of a record I already own, since I wouldn't have the money to do that with every album I like anyway, and I wouldn't even give it a thought. There is strong chance that whatever might have been left out from this album could be interesting/good stuff. Also, I don't see what difference putting the extra music on another record would do, since that is often a way of ripping off the fans. Double album? Double cd?

I think there's a good chance that material left off of the original TI would be a fair bit more interesting than that which makes the final cut of most other albums.

I don't like it when extra tracks get tacked on at the end, like on the deluxe SY re-ish's of a couple of years back, it transforms the album into something it's wasn't meant to be, so that's why i prefer to have them on a 2nd disc, the album on one CD, the fan fleecing detritus on another.

I agree. While I'm all in favour of extra tracks, different versions, etc, they do need to be kept away from the original set, ideally on a separate disc. Although whether this'd be viable when only one or two extras are included is unlikely. Having Sister end with 'Master-Dik' is a good example of where it screws things up without any real alternative, other than the preferable in my opinion of leaving it off altogether and reissuing the Master-Dik EP as is.

That I agree too, and that's why I didn't feel compelled to buy any of these deluxe versions, I just got the extra stuff burned for me by a friend instead. A package with two seperate discs I wouldn't mind, though. I bought 'Live at The Witch Trials' by the Fall with the extra cd of alternate versions that way 'cause it was the first time I was buying it and I only really cared for the original songs, which turned out to be the only ones I listen to 'cause I'm rarely interested in different versions of already finely structured music. This is a special one.

By extra cd on my other post I meant one that is sold separately with its own price tag. I think that is a rip off.

I too rarely get much from listening to alternate versions of records I already know. Even something I thought I might really enjoy, like The Beatles' six disc Anthology set, didn't really end up doing much for me. There's nothing to say that the version of a song that appears on an album or a single is necessarily going to be the best one, but it almost always seems to be the case.

The Fall's Dragnet reish is a good example, i'm glad they included the the single version of Rowche Rumble, but who needs the 6 out take versions?
And again, it would be nice if they'd put all the bonus stuff on a second disc instead.

Non-album singles that were released around the same time being used as bonus tracks gives a nice context to the album though

I remember renting out the first volume of that beatles antology from brompton library years ago 'cause i thought that perhaps listening to what went behind the scenes would finally turn the magic on for me. It was the biggest pile of arse with john lennon's echoed voice saying '1-2-3 a day in the life' i have ever heard. And that 'free as a turd' song tucked in for the extra cash.

Yes, songs that came out only as singles or b-sides i don't mind. It's the alternate versions of rock and pop stuff that is not interesting, all too often. Another one i once bought from a band i don't even like, but hey, i had loads of cash, borders had it in the sale section for less than 10 quid, and i happen to like a couple of songs by them, is that 'greatest hits' by the modern lovers. It came with an extra cd of singles/b-sides by bands on Jonathan Ritchman's record label, which were all horrendous, but i thought it was good value for money.

any old bans of RTX related like pussy galore in video shows are welcome to trade,have tons of rare stuff to trade at www.freewebs.com/almudeno69

almudeno69 - for fuck's sake, stop posting links to your site. Post something relevant to the topic(s) at hand or fuck off.

what the bowels said.

My thoughts exactly....either way, long live RTX.

Jet Pet is such a cool song on TI , I like a live version from Mnpls in 92 better though, there'r some other good songs plus all the crazy soundscaping disguised as shattered rocknroll.

Strawberry Sodapop on the 1st lp is another groovy song, just kind of washes through the listener like floating in a warm bath.

I wasn't too into either record at the time. Didn't get into them until the Red Tiger 7".

See, this is sometimes a drag for me. Royal Trux is one of my long time favoritest bands, and they are one of those bands I own EVERTHING by, literally every time I see some rare bootleg I don't have, I get it. So, this means I will undoubtedly find myself spending drug money on a discoigraphy I already have.

I like all of Royal Trux's stuff. I love how thier craziest and loudest most feedback crazed stuff, like 'Twin Infinitives' is still funky and has that pure Rock n Roll swagger. On the other spectrum, their most funky and pure Rock records, like 'Sweet 16; are still sorta wierd and noisey. They were pretty close to a perfect band; a total perfect melding of noise absurdism, beautiful drug induced beat poetry, and unadulterated love of the many styles of glorious Rock n Roll.

Now I;m rambling, but what do people think of the Howling Hex? I think some of its really good in a Neil Hagerty post Trux is eerily similar to post VU Lou way.

I like Howling Hex probably more than anything Royal Trux put out after Cats and Dogs. I love that whole 'border sound' idea going on in the Hex, as well as hagerty's very loose notion of a 'band'.

I'm not sure if I quite understand what you mean by the 'post Lou VU' comparison though. Are you saying that Jennifer Herrema provided some kind of 'Lou-factor' within Royal Trux? In which case I'm not sure if I'd necessarily agree with that.

I love royal trux.

This is my favourite Howling Hex record, The Return of The Third Tower, released in 2004 in an edition of 500 copies only.
http://www.zshare.net/download/5345747984227a18/

Thanks for that.

I'm confused. Have Royal Trux reformed? They are listed as playing a gig in Italy at the end of this month in Bologna's Covo.

I saw that too - I can't see any evidence of Royal Trux "reforming" - I suspect it is actually RTX instead.

EDIT: Having looked at the "official" Covo site and their Last.fm page, there's no mention there of Royal Trux playing....you'd have thoght that this is one gig they would have been more than keen to publicise?

[quote=MellySingsDoom]Sarram - it's actually this lot playing at a VENUE call Royal Trux in Bologna - http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=129 760546[/quote]

Do you mean all those bands? Thanks for clearing that up for me, I was about to have a heart attack. Cool line up.

Thank you!

haha i missed that, what a prick!!!!!:D:D:D

I had an urge to listen to Twin Infinitives today. Which is what I'm doing now. What a record to not have listened to for a few years! Silly, silly neglecting good records Glice.