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sorrybutitstrue 06.14.2006 03:34 PM

In case you haven't noticed...
 
Hello everyone. I used to like Sonic Youth a whole lot, back when they were good. But they have not been good for a while now, in fact now they are extremely boring and unimaginitive. They sound like a shadow of their former creative selves. And I have given their new records a shot. The last few records, only the Lee song has been good, and this new one is just awful all around. They have nothing left, especially now that Jim O'Rourke is gone. And I'm sorry but Kim cannot sing, and Thurston masturbating a guitar is not music. And it's not that I don't appreciate noise, I love it, when it is done well. Kim's voice sounded good with the style of music they were doing circa Dirty, but now it is the most grating voice ever because it no longer works with the music and all their songs sound the same. Not to mention the lyrics have just gotten cheesier and cheesier as time goes on.
But please don't get me wrong, I really did used to like them a lot. I have a few set lists from their earlier shows and many of their records on vinyl. But every record they put out these days I just lose more and more respect for them, so please if you are listening, do us all a favor and just stop making half assed records because I want to remember you as you were, not as you are now. And no more of those wanky solo projects either (except Lee).

johnnywinternoshow 06.14.2006 03:52 PM

stones? paper cup exit? unmade bed? empty page? disconnection notice? rain on tin? do your copies of murray street and nurse not have those tracks on it? They're all fine fine songs, they're just more laid back than earlier stuff. You can't keep making the same album for 25 years

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 03:52 PM

Haha. Word.

finding nobody 06.14.2006 04:01 PM

did you make that username just for this thread? if so that's pretty genius.
i wouldn't have thought of that

sorrybutitstrue 06.14.2006 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnywinternoshow
stones? paper cup exit? unmade bed? empty page? disconnection notice? rain on tin? do your copies of murray street and nurse not have those tracks on it? They're all fine fine songs, they're just more laid back than earlier stuff. You can't keep making the same album for 25 years


I'm not saying that, obviously you aren't understanding what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that the last 4 or 5 albums lacked the edge that they once had and now what they do all sounds very similar. I have also noticed a correlation in the crappiness of the record and the increase in obnoxious/fake indie and punk fans that like them, who don't know anything about real music but are just liking them because they want their friends to think they are cool. So in response, no not for 25 years, but around 10.

Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski 06.14.2006 04:06 PM

Why would people feel the need to continually post on a message board devoted to a band to tell them how they are sincerely unimpressed with them. It's fucking pathetic. Does anyone know of another site where fans exist?

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski
Why would people feel the need to continually post on a message board devoted to a band to tell them how they are sincerely unimpressed with them. It's fucking pathetic. Does anyone know of another site where fans exist?


Blah Blah Blah. This isn't the "We love Sonic Youth so much we can't be disappointed by anything they put out" board. This is the Sonic Youth fan message board. I'm a Sonic Youth fan. That doesn't mean I have to like Rather Ripped or Nurse.

You are pathetic.

Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski 06.14.2006 04:32 PM

I find it oddly pathetic that every time I'm on here (which is maybe about twenty minutes four times a week) you are on here with about a hundred posts. Dude, you're young and vital... go try to make something happen. It won't happen on a computer trying to nerdily hack into people you have online feuds with...

It's some mercy advice, chief!

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 04:37 PM

LOL. Mercy advice? Idiot.

Contrary to proper belief I don't live on the internet. I spend a good amount of time on there between work and hanging out and late at night. I don't need sleep.

You are still an idiot for taking shots at people who don't like new SY simply because it is bland and uninteresting.

Rob Instigator 06.14.2006 05:04 PM

I for one would pay good money to see Thurston Moore masturbate a guitar for two hours.

Bal 06.14.2006 05:08 PM

 

scott v 06.14.2006 05:37 PM

fine you don't have to like RR...

but to prove yourself of that point beyond reasonable means (like you are by also resorting to calling people idiots and pathetic)
makes you out to seem rather pathetic yourself, these are nonetheless assumptions based on the majority of your posts. Hayden, its too obvious that you are indeed young and think you are in the right and carry a hefty attitude, and it often comes out as reading like you have a "holyier than thou" perspective or may i say an ego problem.

look in the mirror dude.

top 40 squeeze 06.14.2006 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Blah Blah Blah. This isn't the "We love Sonic Youth so much we can't be disappointed by anything they put out" board. This is the Sonic Youth fan message board. I'm a Sonic Youth fan. That doesn't mean I have to like Rather Ripped or Nurse.

You are pathetic.


Yeah, but the posts that are like pleas to a band to stop making a certain type of music because they don't like it and to start making records in the style they do like are pretty lame. Sonic Youth aren't here to satisfy any one person or any many people. They just did their best to put out a record they thought was good.

holy-reverb!! 06.14.2006 05:45 PM

do people join this forum just so they can bash on sonic youth? a waste of thread space.

sonic sphere 06.14.2006 05:46 PM

wanker. ooops i meant to say welcome to the board

sonic sphere 06.14.2006 05:48 PM

przepraszam that last post was meant for sorrybutitstrue in case i left any room for ambiguity

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott v
fine you don't have to like RR...

but to prove yourself of that point beyond reasonable means (like you are by also resorting to calling people idiots and pathetic)
makes you out to seem rather pathetic yourself, these are nonetheless assumptions based on the majority of your posts. Hayden, its too obvious that you are indeed young and think you are in the right and carry a hefty attitude, and it often comes out as reading like you have a "holyier than thou" perspective or may i say an ego problem.

look in the mirror dude.


I haven't been putting out shitty albums and even if I had been I couldn't tell by looking in the mirror. He called me pathetic first. You sir, are a complete idiot. I'm glad you have something in common with 95% percent of this board.

Sonic Youth could record them eating supper and release it as a new album and you'd all eat it up like it was the most innovative(yawn) album ever.

alyasa 06.14.2006 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sorrybutitstrue
Hello everyone. I used to like Sonic Youth a whole lot, back when they were good. But they have not been good for a while now, in fact now they are extremely boring and unimaginitive. They sound like a shadow of their former creative selves. And I have given their new records a shot. The last few records, only the Lee song has been good, and this new one is just awful all around. They have nothing left, especially now that Jim O'Rourke is gone. And I'm sorry but Kim cannot sing, and Thurston masturbating a guitar is not music. And it's not that I don't appreciate noise, I love it, when it is done well. Kim's voice sounded good with the style of music they were doing circa Dirty, but now it is the most grating voice ever because it no longer works with the music and all their songs sound the same. Not to mention the lyrics have just gotten cheesier and cheesier as time goes on.
But please don't get me wrong, I really did used to like them a lot. I have a few set lists from their earlier shows and many of their records on vinyl. But every record they put out these days I just lose more and more respect for them, so please if you are listening, do us all a favor and just stop making half assed records because I want to remember you as you were, not as you are now. And no more of those wanky solo projects either (except Lee).

Sorry, but that's just your opinion. And, how old are you anyway? What kind of music do you like? Why do you say Kim cannot sing when many are saying that she has finally found her best singing voice in years? Are you somewhat disappointed that they will not re-release Confusion Is Sex? Or a thousand million variations of it at least? Are there not a billion bands out there who are already rehashing CiS + KYI in a million tired ways? Are you bitter that the one band who originated all the infinite, uncountable copycat noise rock bands in existence will not continue doing the same kind of music over and over again? Or do you just not like the band?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 06.14.2006 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert 'Stiles' Stilinski
Why would people feel the need to continually post on a message board devoted to a band to tell them how they are sincerely unimpressed with them. It's fucking pathetic. Does anyone know of another site where fans exist?


Agreed.

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 09:35 PM

NO. Idiots, I'm not dissapointed. I'm just really not impressed. I wasn't expecting much after Sonic Nurse.

I don't like how you have to like RR to be a 'true fan' or some shit.

khchris(original) 06.14.2006 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sorrybutitstrue
Hello everyone. I used to like Sonic Youth a whole lot, back when they were good. But they have not been good for a while now, in fact now they are extremely boring and unimaginitive. They sound like a shadow of their former creative selves. And I have given their new records a shot. The last few records, only the Lee song has been good, and this new one is just awful all around. They have nothing left, especially now that Jim O'Rourke is gone. And I'm sorry but Kim cannot sing, and Thurston masturbating a guitar is not music. And it's not that I don't appreciate noise, I love it, when it is done well. Kim's voice sounded good with the style of music they were doing circa Dirty, but now it is the most grating voice ever because it no longer works with the music and all their songs sound the same. Not to mention the lyrics have just gotten cheesier and cheesier as time goes on.
But please don't get me wrong, I really did used to like them a lot. I have a few set lists from their earlier shows and many of their records on vinyl. But every record they put out these days I just lose more and more respect for them, so please if you are listening, do us all a favor and just stop making half assed records because I want to remember you as you were, not as you are now. And no more of those wanky solo projects either (except Lee).



Um, that's nice. But why do you think people would care whether or not you like SY?

khchris(original) 06.14.2006 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
NO. Idiots, I'm not dissapointed. I'm just really not impressed. I wasn't expecting much after Sonic Nurse.

I don't like how you have to like RR to be a 'true fan' or some shit.



It's because RR connects with the older and real fans who liked the earlier SY, not the boring, unimaginative O'Rourke years SY.

I'm glad you don't like it...it leaves RR with real fans who know SY better.

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 10:06 PM

You're a fucking idiot. I hate O' Rourke SY. Murray Street was the only good thing they put out.

khchris(original) 06.14.2006 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
You're a fucking idiot. I hate O' Rourke SY. Murray Street was the only good thing they put out.


Like I said, you don't know SY very well. Thx for proving my point. You probably never even heard of O'Rourke before the SYR release.

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 10:14 PM

Was the only good thing O' Rourke SY put out.

How did I prove your point.

I'm sorry I don't give head to the whole band.

khchris(original) 06.14.2006 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Was the only good thing O' Rourke SY put out.

How did I prove your point.

I'm sorry I don't give head to the whole band.


Your comment regarding Murray Street only proves that you don't know very much about SY. Everyone knows Nurse was much better. Have you heard SY's album "GOO" or "Dirty"? Those are great albums, you should definitely check them out. They're a bit more raw and explosive than Murray Street, so they maybe too aggressive for your liking, but give them a try.

What do you mean when you say "I don't give head to the whole band"?

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khchris(original)
Your comment regarding Murray Street only proves that you don't know very much about SY. Everyone knows Nurse was much better. Have you heard SY's album "GOO" or "Dirty"? Those are great albums, you should definitely check them out. They're a bit more raw and explosive than Murray Street, so they maybe too aggressive for your liking, but give them a try.

What do you mean when you say "I don't give head to the whole band"?


Haha. Everyone knows an opinion. Dumbfuck.

I mean I don't know much about the band because I'm not such a suck-up little bitch that I buy everything they put out, terrible or not.

Goo and Dirty sucked.

krastian 06.14.2006 10:31 PM

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Alex's Trip 06.14.2006 10:37 PM

My thoughts, exactly...

cdollaz 06.14.2006 10:45 PM

Sigh. I hate it when children are allowed to stay up past their bedtime.

khchris(original) 06.14.2006 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Haha. Everyone knows an opinion. Dumbfuck.

I mean I don't know much about the band because I'm not such a suck-up little bitch that I buy everything they put out, terrible or not.

Goo and Dirty sucked.


Do they suck because they don't "sound like Murray Street"?

Well, atleast we both agree that you don't know very much about Sonic Youth. Why are you even a member of this board? Did the Weezer board get boring on you?

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 11:13 PM

LOL. You are funny. Your repetitive posts and lack of intelligence amuses me.

You may live. For now.

khchris(original) 06.14.2006 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
LOL. You are funny. Your repetitive posts and lack of intelligence amuses me.

You may live. For now.


That's nice. Try getting a life outside a message board of a band you don't like. 2,793 posts since March?

Join your highschool drama club or something, you'd make a great jester.

HaydenAsche 06.14.2006 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khchris(original)
Queef


(yawn)

khchris(original) 06.14.2006 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
(yawn)


Congrats! You're the first kid I've heard use that term since I was probably in highschool!

So dude, better get to bed. Don't want to miss the short bus to school...

sorrybutitstrue 06.15.2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alyasa
Sorry, but that's just your opinion. And, how old are you anyway? What kind of music do you like? Why do you say Kim cannot sing when many are saying that she has finally found her best singing voice in years? Are you somewhat disappointed that they will not re-release Confusion Is Sex? Or a thousand million variations of it at least? Are there not a billion bands out there who are already rehashing CiS + KYI in a million tired ways? Are you bitter that the one band who originated all the infinite, uncountable copycat noise rock bands in existence will not continue doing the same kind of music over and over again? Or do you just not like the band?


Sorry but Sonic Youth is the one who ripped off Glenn Branca's style (rather poorly I might add) to begin with, so better be sure you have your history right first so you don't look like a...well you know

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 06.15.2006 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnywinternoshow
You can't keep making the same album for 25 years


I agree.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 06.15.2006 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khchris(original)
Congrats! You're the first kid I've heard use that term since I was probably in highschool!

So dude, better get to bed. Don't want to miss the short bus to school...


haha, thats so lame but funny at the same time.

Trasher02 06.15.2006 01:26 PM

Murray street is great
Sonic Nurse is great
Rather Ripped is... i dunno i still have to get used to it.

sorrybutitstrue 06.15.2006 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by khchris(original)
Um, that's nice. But why do you think people would care whether or not you like SY?


I don't give a crap if they care about my opinion or not, I have never in my history of liking SY posted any messages before yesterday, but after streaming the new CD and barely holding back vomit, I could keep silent no more. My opinion is that SY are done, of course I realize that is only my opinion, but your infinately witty comeback only further proves my point about the fact that as time goes on SY fans get more fake and more annoying. Don't you have a Belle and Sebastian CD you should be listening to while writing poetry and crying or something?


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