tyra banks pisses me off (thoughts after seeing her interview sasha grey)
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1VOMfs_aBk
here is the 1st part. i cant find the other parts because the rest of them are by these people against porn that post obnoxious notes on the video.

anyhoo tyra banks is so full of shit. 1st of all she looked so fake acting so conserned for the poor young porn actress who is making the wrong choice in her life.
morality wise she is no different than sasha grey, or any pornstar because she was a model, meaning she sold her body to make money. the fact that gre or anybody else decides to take that to an extreme is another story, but bottom line they are doing the same thing.
i dont know something aobut this video irked me. and that doctor (from part 3) what an ass. im pretty sure that jenna jameson isnt crying herself to sleep everynight on the terrible choice that shes made...

any thoughts on the morality of pornography? i know that almost everybody here enjoys it. is there a difference (moral wise) with modeling and pornography?
am i just full of shit?
is she?
are you?
find out next week on Soap...

pornography is just one step removed from prostitution.
In a moral sense, I feel a person can do what they want, that it is their choice to live their life as they see fit. HOWEVER, that does not excuse people who choose to live amoral or immoral lives.

feel free to indulge in hard drugs, or prostituiton or porno, but accept that part of the appeal lies in the express immorality and debauchery of what is being done.

consentually fucking someone is a person's choice, and right. but doing so on video, so that copies can be sold and make money off of it, and have people jerking off to it, is not the same thing. if it taints a person with the stigma of "porn star" so what? you made yr bed, now lie in it.

I do not think porno is immoral. Howvere, many people do, and their feelings about it re just as valid as those who feel it is not immoral. That could include your wife, your mom, your uncle, or grandpa, whoever.

MANG, CHEETO IS ON A ROLL TODAY

fuck, sorry for the all caps. they were locked.

yeah, i saw that some time ago, was kinda hilarious, but being a model is not quite the same as being assfucked by a thousand cocks and getting gonorrhea in the process.

i also saw recently the annabel chong story and i felt sorry for the poor woman-- evidently fucked up and i wonder why nobody linked her gangrape to her acting out gangrapes on film and wanting to be "in control" during her "performances".

im sure plenty of people have jerked off to tyra banks in a bikini, but since she didnt take her job two steps further doesnt make her the saint that she pretends to be

yeah i know, but its not COMPLETELY removed

well in that case all sales is pimping, and nothing is completely removed in business, and on and on, etc., and since nothing is COMPLETELY removed, so we are all whores and pimps. but you know, it's not all the same.

jerking off to tyra banks in her victoria secret undies was a good thing around 1998 though.

that is how I feel, its like, cool you want to have sex for money, thats cool, I-man don't judge anyone... but the moral and even spiritual problem with pornography is that it lasts forever..

You may star in a film, and fuck a few people for some money or even the thrill of it, but later in life you might not like that shit, but it continues on forever, as if you were still doing it. You may not do it anymore, you may only do it once, but those tapes and pictures go on forever, and continue to get used by horny, desperate folks..

It is a trap, a kind of endless bad kharma because the error is perpetuated outside of your own control, and this tends to give people a "fuck it" attitude in the porn industry and so they continue doing the work that they may actually not want to do at all.. after all, who really likes their job anyways?

People can do whatever the hell they want. If fucking someone in front of a camera is what they want to do then what's the problem?

tell that to their kids and grandkids derek.

It is not as simple as you say. There are MANY women in porn that have to snort lines or drop x before doing scenes, not to mention the ones that have to drink heavily.
*(sometimes to forget that you had three cocks in you and got pissed on to boot)

the difference between Tyra modeling swimsuits or lingerie and a porn star is that Tyra's is not a sexual act. a naked woman is not a sexual act. if someone sees it and gets aroused and jerks off, that is THEIR brain working.

a porno is expressly and implicitely a sexual act performed, FOR MONEY, to excite the viewer sexually.

Imagine trying to explain to your daughter or son or nephew why you took three cumlads to the face in a clip on the internet? or why you let someone choke you with their cock till you vomited?

There is a difference. without that difference, the masturbation would be subpar...

;)

Madam Grey listens to some great tunes.

Also the idea of the intellectual pornstar is pretty neato.

I have a friend who did porn, and thoroughly enjoyed it, to pay for a vetinary course.

As it happens, she's not a vet now, but that's a whole different issue. She'll tell you she loved every minute of it. She kept a tight rein on her career, and never did anything she didn't want to, and made sure all her contracts had explicitly, in writing, what was and wasn't 'ok'.

But how would their kids and grandkids know? Assuming that they aren't pornstars into their mature years?

And I guess that's true but these women AREN'T FORCED to do these things... they can walk away at any time they want. So these people can do what they want and it is their choice to enter this industry. Maybe I'm missing your point but I don't have a problem with porn at all.

Now if you excuse me, I'm gonna watch a video of Sasha getting cumshotted by 15 guys consecutively.

I haven't watched all of it, but just letting you know that you can turn those youtube notes off:

I never said I had a problem with porn man. 40 inch plus is my fave site

ha ha

but when you make a video, if you are not very careful, and even if you are, there is no telling what people will see now on the net man.

Tyra is so god damned annoying that it almost completley negates her hotness...

sn't that the truth???? her personality is a cock softener

i've met (and worked with) tyra banks and she seemed nice enough to me, and being a fashion model is hardly the same thing as being in a porno.

anyway, back to the topic at hand, the morality of porno.... isn't that an oxymoron? i use porn like everyone else, but i don't doubt that most of the people involved in it are either total scum, or have deep rooted problems. a kid from my school makes pornos now and he's an utter shit, and i know a woman who works in that industry and she's a deeply unhappy person, not that they are representative of everyone in porn but they reinforced conclusions that i had already come to.
although i'm sure there're a handful of people who work in porn that are merely well adjusted perverts, like glice's friend.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Rob Instigator again.

Pornography is good for people. It's also bad for people. Whatever. I watched this shit about a year ago, and I just find it funny that Tyra, who poses nude, who thousands of guys have jacked off to, could insult another person for selling their body. The only difference between Sasha and Tyra is Sasha takes a dick on camera while Tyra probably has taken 3 times as many dicks off camera.

Anyway, Sasha Grey rules, I've talked to her a few times and I love her. And she likes Scissor Shock. Cool girl. This whole thing just made her a thousand times more popular after it was all said and done, so.. mission accomplished.

Either way, Tyra's retarded. She's the last person who needs to be judging people.

using that phrase as a euphemism for being paid to have sex is fine, but don't confuse it with literally selling your body as you could say that any job is selling your body, and therefore all jobs are the same as prostitution, although some people do say that. not that i'm casting any moral judgements on sex workers, or any profesion (except bankers).

But, in the end, guys are still paying to beat off to pictures/videos of them, even, again, if a video of Tyra isn't her getting 2 cocks stuffed inside her. They're both only where they are because of their bodies.. and they're clever businesswomen.

so what, there probably isn't a single photo of a woman on the entire planet that some guy somewhere wouldn't "beat off" to. Tyra Banks was selling her image, she wasn't getting paid to be filmed having sex.
If anything Tyra Banks is the opposite of a sex worker as she got paid to wear clothes, and sex workers get paid to take them off.

Wasn't Annabel Chong supposed to be an intellectual porn star too? that documentary about her is probably the most sad & depressing film i have ever seen.

I don't know who that is.

I'm sure a guy is more likely to beat off to someone selling sex than some random person, though. I already clarified that she didn't get cocks stuffed in her on camera. She just rubbed oil on herself while wearing skimpy ass clothes and licking her lips. No dicks though, so it becomes a respectable profession.



(should be) End of thread (but probably won't be).

Annabel Chong's an "intellectual", Asia Carerra's one... who knows. Who's to say. That's just the image they put across. Almost all of them seem like drugged out, shallow, though occasionally interesting whores.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabel_Chong
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181810/
i expect you cn probably watch the film on google videos, or something, it's worth seeing.

google her already & watch the movie.

t&b has both facts & evaluation right-- annabel chong even "debated" at oxford-- whereas sasha grey merely claims to be an "existentialist" 60 years after that went out of style.

that brand of "intellectualism" i call defense mechanisms & rationalizations

This is a very abstract debate. I'll stick to my Tyra opinion: I feel the same way about her as I do about Bono--annoying, yes, but the self-righteous judgment calls are bullshit. We don't know her, and I don't see the point in judging. So what if she has some conflicting views? She's human. She appears to be trying to do something good. Why hate?

Well if you're going to be pushy about it, then I won't.

Half way reading through this post, I lost track of whether you were talking about judging Tyra Banks or Tyra Banks judging Sasha Grey.

I figure both is adequate.

i think its most degrading to guys than women. i mean, we're paying to cum pretty much

Not me, I don't know where you guys get your porn, but I get it for free.

"No pornography exploits women. It exploits men. It’s the men that are made to look stupid, silly and ridiculous, chasing after the golden elixir. Women look beautiful, do what they wanna do and get paid for it." - Lydia Lunch

i've long hated tyra banks, she invites people on her show that she doesn't like and then when they try make a point she cuts them off like "i don't want to hear what you're saying, you're wrong,this is my show i get to speak"

she acts like she didn't personally invite people, and she tries to look all brave by yelling at people on her own turf

i guess i understand why she doesn't let people speak, if somebody actually made a good point i really doubt tyra would be able to make a good rebuttal

also sasha grey is cute

who the hell is tyra banks and why do you care?

this is going to be my default thefacebook photograph for at least 3 days.

I'd hit it. but I would definitely get rough with her. You know...tony danza that bitch.

models are paid to sell clothes or other items. bikini models sell bikini's or the magazines in which they appear.

if people choose to wank to it, that is their issue. quite a big difrerence from porno.