Why does Eminem always rap in that stupid voice these days?
 

I'm digging his new track, 3 A.M., Dre did a really dope job producing this one. But he should've told Marshall to cut the lame accent he started using after The Eminem Show.

Does anyone know what I'm talkin' about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA6UVzvIUR4

very weak me thinks!

Yeah man. That is why he will never make an album as good as Slim Shady ever again.

I watched this video just last night. I like it alot. I think I'm gonna love the new album.

Wait he made a good album?

Yeah, I kind of wish he'd drop the modern-era vocal style too.


That said, I've got some tremendous semi-guilty pleasure from the tracks that have been released from the new album. I'll still be waiting to hear some opinions on it before I hand over any cash though. Mainly to be assured that he doesn't mention Kim Kardashian's ass more than 3-4 additional times. Dre appears to be in good form.

I guess that the much anticipated "Eminem all growed up" album is yet to arrive. That said, while I like the idea in concept, I'm honestly not sure it would be that good. Everyone assumes it would be like an album of "Stan", but most of his serious attempts at "maturity" thus far have been more along the lines of "Mockingbird", and nobody wants a whole album of that...

I just hope he doesn't ruin the whole thing with that voice. What the fuck happened to him? It doesn't even sound real.

several.

I half-agree.

"Mockingbird" sucked ass. But an album of "Toy Soldiers" or "Sing For The Moment" would be great.

Oh, don't get me wrong, a "mature" Eminem that sounds how people would want that it to sound ("Toy Soldiers", "Stan", ETC) would potentially be amazing. I'm just not confident that he would deliver that at this point. And in the meantime a load of guilty pleasure jokes about cutting people up and farting over shiny Dre beats is probably a lot more fun than the "mature" album he would actually deliver.

Infinite and the Slim Shady LP and then he turned into a cartoon and all of his songs had stupid choruses and sound-effects (Real Slim Shady), and his life was too exposed to be interesting when he was serious anyway (every song was blah blah, I hate/love Kim, I hate my mum, I love my daughter, etc).

I guess you could say Infinite is his mature album as it was from before he adopted the Sim Shady persona, and before he had money. I love the nocturnal jazzy beats on that, and the fact that the lyrics all seem to be about working in shit jobs and not getting enough sleep.

slim shady, marshal mathers, and eminem show are all AMAZING.

now I totally agree with what yr saying.

I Know!! And the thing is, I'm not sure that a lot of listeners "get" Eminem's satire, etc.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to atsonicpark again.

So yr saying that his first album, before he understood the concept of writing lines for characters (the device that has pretty much made him the lyricist that he is) is his mature album? I'm pretty sure that even he would disagree with you on that one.

He hadn't developed any of his original style in Infinite, so it is definitely not his mature album.

I'm confused here. That's exactly what I'm saying and it makes perfect sense to me yet I'm assuming I'm supposed to find what you're saying objectionable?

My point is this: Infinite is his most personal, introspective album (two factors which I associate with maturity) precisely because it isn't written from the perspective of comedy characters.

You've heard the songs It's OK, Never 2 Far, Searchin', etc? Well, compare them to any three from any of the albums that he's released since the Slim Shady LP; I bet you won't find more than one where he isn't either writing from the perspective of a comedy pervert/pill-head or ranting like a petulent teenager (with the same insecurities, paranoia, whining, hollow pseudo-rage). Hence Infinite seems more mature to me, more 'real' (because he's in touch with reality). There aren't even any skits on it (well, not the stupid kind).


What's originalty got to do with maturity? Unless we're thinking of the different meanings of the word 'mature' (me: personal, introspective; you: best)?

I think you are meaning maturity like "no dick and fart jokes" and I'm meaning maturity like "fully conscious of artistic devices and how to employ them in an interesting and intelligent manner."

age maturity vs art maturity

what is the difference between this annoying voice and the annoying voice he used in the past?

Hmm. Whatever. All I remember first hearing was the "my name is" and then "real slim shady" and I just didnt dig it. I remember liking a few songs off the marshal mathers lp but I can't say any of them would be good ALBUMS.

I dunno....when I want to hear white trash with catchy hooks I listen to nirvana, I don't care for white rappers even if they are legit "punks" or whatever he was.

I like how he makes fun of people, like kurt cobain did, but he does it too obvious and it wore it's welcome a long time ago.

I think that's it haha.

I must have missed those interesting and intelligent artistic-devices (unless you mean the bit where he talks in a funny voice and pretends to be gay?) but lets not derail this thread further.

I meant the poetic and literary devices used in his lyrics, which I guess were lost on you, much like I said earlier.

Perhaps you could explain the poetic and literary devices used in his lyrics to me? the ones specific to his later albums.

Seriously under the heading 'poetic devices' then under the heading 'literary devices', why don't you tell me exactly what you mean (be clear, use examples)?

I know what these things are, and, if you're right, I'll gladly agree with you.

hahaha

There's a mate of mine who once said that more people would realise how amazing Eminem is (/was) if he was more 'underground'. It's very true, I think. Having said that, all the heads I know give him mad props.

It's true. People tend to like you more if nobody else does.

ok
Eminen is shit and has always been.
There.

congratulations, you have won / it's a year's subscription of bad puns

I think once you've got the hang of that logic, you stop being a whiny indie prick about things. This isn't aimed at you so much as it's aimed at all the whiny indie pricks reading.

You should listen to Girls Aloud. Similar to Eminem, if they were a hip German underground outfit quoting Cindy Sherman (hello, Chicks on Speed) then loads more people would be all over their boink.

word.

i had to let it go.
i feel free.
i'm a bird.

my wife just pre-ordered the new album for me!

wow she deserves....
huh she just deserves.

so what do you guys think about the new album?

Well, it's definitely better than Encore or whatever the fuck that album was called.

Entertaining album. I've only listened twice but I like most of it quite a bit.

I'm just gonna stay as far as possible from this thread.

^and you accomplish that by posting in it? Hmm.

The new album is pretty good.. A few duds but that's to be expected. The beat on 'Same song and dance' is awesome

hes always had an annoying voice, but on the earlier albums when he was channeling all that hatred and violence it sounded kinda cool, like really demented. its really hilarious thinking about myself as a 13 year old listening to eminem and just loving the hell out of every curse word and offensive statement on there. the first two are great man, as good as anything dre ever produced, even the chronic. the "eminem show" is a piece of shit, and i couldnt even tell you about the others as i never cared to buy it.