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demonrail666 09.10.2009 10:14 AM

Was PCP a myth?
 
I've never met anyone who's even seen any, let alone taken it. Did it really exist or was it just something invented in 70s films for black characters to take?

noisereductions 09.10.2009 10:21 AM

I saw a documentary once from the 80's that showed a dude that was high on Angel Dust. It was f'd up.

demonrail666 09.10.2009 10:24 AM

I might've seen that same documentary. I remember one bit where a policeman described how someone on it had tried to rip the front off of a bus!

That's pretty reckless behaviour and I'm sure I'd notice if kids were wandering around ripping the fronts off buses.

floatingslowly 09.10.2009 10:25 AM

black people take it, you say.

where do I sign up?!!?

demonrail666 09.10.2009 10:25 AM

hollywood, circa 1975, I think

Rob Instigator 09.10.2009 10:29 AM

PCP is still ingested by runaways who dip their cigs or joints in formalfdehyde, which, when burned, creates a compound very much like PCP.
it is called "getting wet"

PCP is much more difficult to synthesize than LSD or meth and is much more easily controlled, or access to the raw ingredients is more easily controlled.

Know Your Source.

floatingslowly 09.10.2009 10:34 AM

my grandmother's office was robbed by someone on PCP once.

or so they said... he may have just been black.

demonrail666 09.10.2009 10:54 AM

and an actor.

Did your grandmother notice any large cameras during the robbery?

Rob Instigator 09.10.2009 10:54 AM

Geto Boys will tell ya about angel dust

My girls gettin skinny, shes strung out on coke
So I went to her mothers house and cut out her throat
Her grandma was standin there, she was screamin out, brad!
As she reached for the telly, I put the blade on grannys ass
Went to the back and grabbed a shovel
Now grannys on her way to meet the devil
Pulled out my .38 and aimed at the bitch
A cop says (freeze, muthafucka!) bitch, suck my dick
I said, die, muthafuckas! as I blasted
Something clicked in my head, visions of bodies in plastic
The scent of buckshots in human flesh
Pigs dyin from bullet wounds to the chest
No sheriffs gonna take me on a road
Dark as fuck, and let his pistols explode
Fuck that, cause I aints to die
So I reloaded my uzi and fired up another fry
It got me crazy as fuck
A ragin psychotic full of that angels dust

demonrail666 09.10.2009 10:58 AM

you missed off the second verse, where he rips the front off of a bus

Lamont Cranston 09.10.2009 10:58 AM

Meth would be easy to control if the pharmaceutical industry wouldn't block efforts to regulate over the counter cold medicine.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.10.2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
I've never met anyone who's even seen any, let alone taken it. Did it really exist or was it just something invented in 70s films for black characters to take?


"fool how much you wanna bet, that I can dance under water, and not get wet!" mack 10

that my good friend is reference to smoking sherm.

no pcp is not a myth. I have smoked that shit. it is fucking crazy. it is wild. it is dangerous. in the hood, people dip p-dogs (a crack sprinkled joint of weed) into some sherm (liquid pcp) to make "Ghostbusters" to go out and do "dirt" which includes acts of violence which sober people are not capable of. In the early 1990s PCP was drive-by juice..

before crack PCP is what destroyed Compton/Watts area. people were hooked on that dust like a mofo..

DON'T SMOKE IT. its crazy. the high is like drinking a million beers without falling down..

and Rob, sherm is real pcp. it is relatively easy to make, you can do it in 48 hours in yr garage and you can get about a gallon of that shit with $600 worth of household chemicals from the HomeDepot.. know your cook..

"my neighborhood chef Raul, known for clowning chickens and turnin one into two thats what he's used.." e-40

atari 2600 09.10.2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
"fool how much you wanna bet, that I can dance under water, and not get wet!" mack 10

that my good friend is reference to smoking sherm.

no pcp is not a myth. I have smoked that shit. it is fucking crazy. it is wild. it is dangerous. in the hood, people dip p-dogs (a crack sprinkled joint of weed) into some sherm (liquid pcp) to make "Ghostbusters" to go out and do "dirt" which includes acts of violence which sober people are not capable of. In the early 1990s PCP was drive-by juice..



yep, not a myth
Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
before crack PCP is what destroyed Compton/Watts area. people were hooked on that dust like a mofo..


okay, didn't know pcp was a prelude in that way

While the spark was a particular incident of police brutality, the reason the Watts Riots of '65 occurred can be traced back to the closing of many of the factories and plants in the L.A. area that had previously employed the prejudicially "zoned-in" residents of Watts and Compton.

Before those closings and the subsequent massive loss of jobs, the area was thriving and each generation was doing better than the one preceding.

Rob Instigator 09.10.2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamont Cranston
Meth would be easy to control if the pharmaceutical industry wouldn't block efforts to regulate over the counter cold medicine.


They already do. Anythiong with ephedrine in Texas must be bought by signing a form at the pharmacist, and never over the counter.

Rob Instigator 09.10.2009 11:13 AM

stay away from sherm, "wet", dust, whatever. it truly is a one time can kill ya kind of drug.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.10.2009 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
yep, not a myth

okay, didn't know pcp was a prelude in that way

While the spark was a particular incident of police brutality, the reason the Watts Riots of '65 occurred can be traced back to the closing of many of the factories and plants in the L.A. area that had previously employed the prejudicially "zoned-in" residents of Watts and Compton.

Before those closings and massive job loss, the area was thriving and each generation was doing better than the one preceding.


yes.. but burried in those communities were CIA-heroin distribution networks transporting Vietnamese heroin and using black and mexican party crews to sell it. In Watts it was the Athens and the Pirus, who became the Bloods in reaction to the rising of the Crips, who began to sell heroin for the CIA after infiltrators shut down the Black Panthers. Between 1965-1970 the Panthers had the youth doing good, the LAPD reported NO CRIME in Watts area! Kids were busy in soup kitchens and afterschool programs to do any dirt.. but then the CIA shut it all down cuz Panthers were hating on heroin sells.. the crips are the little brothers and little homies of all the panthers that got arrested or assassinated in that time. they were weak willed and succumbed like many panthers to the allure of drug dealing. Then these party crews evolved into gangs through drug dealing for the CIA. Originally it was heroin, but as we all know, heroin is a serious not a casual drug, it gets hard to sell to new clients after awhile... so the CIA experimented with selling PCP, a recently banned anesthesia..

in the early to mid-1970s PCP was FUCKING UP the streets of Watts and Compton the way we think of crack in the 80s. lots of people were shermed out, and as dangerous a drug as it is, you can imagine how destructive its abuse was to the community and family structures..
PCP was practice for cocaine and crack, which the CIA discovered AFTER their involvement in Peru in the 1960s.. it replaced heroin because as we all know, cocaine is a social drug, people are more willing to try and use it than heroin.. it is the weed of hard drugs.. damned CIA..

floatingslowly 09.10.2009 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Did your grandmother notice any large cameras during the robbery?

I'm not sure. but then again, she was sleeping with her boss so I would suspect that she would be adverse to mentioning cameras.

would it help if I said that she also lived in Watts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lamont Cranston
Meth would be easy to control if the pharmaceutical industry wouldn't block efforts to regulate over the counter cold medicine.

actually, Oklahoma has pioneered an anti-meth campaign that most states are looking at adopting.

you can't buy any kind of cold medicine here without them writing down yr driver's license.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.10.2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I'm not sure. but then again, she was sleeping with her boss so I would suspect that she would be adverse to mentioning cameras.

would it help if I said that she also lived in Watts?


actually, Oklahoma has pioneered an anti-meth campaign that most states are looking at adopting.

you can't buy any kind of cold medicine here without them writing down yr driver's license.


Cali has the same program. there is practically no ephedrine around, which actually sucks if you need some good Day-quil.. I-man is ital though, I don't mess with those 'medicines' in the first place. I still run into folks stealing shitloads of these under-the-counter pills for street sales..

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 09.10.2009 12:20 PM

I was taking sudafed yesterday for my fucking cold that is ravaging me right now, and I woke up today feeling completely drugged out. Fuck that shit, I don't see why anyone would want an intensified form of this.

girlgun 09.10.2009 12:30 PM

i've actually done PCP. it was an accident though and it was only once.

stu666 09.10.2009 12:34 PM

i think i've done it once but i'm not 100% sure.

demonrail666 09.10.2009 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu666
i think i've done it once but i'm not 100% sure.


do you remember anything like this happening?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2A7I...eature=related

Lamont Cranston 09.10.2009 12:59 PM

Nothing I've read suggests the CIA were directly dealing anywhere at any time, whether it was the French Connection heroin following WWII or their Golden Triangle operations heroin, or '80s South American cocaine & Afghan heroin.
What was going on was that they'd be allied with various groups of mobsters, Corsicans, Hmong, Mujahadeen, etc in order to carry out some covert operations shit and each would become intintimately involved in the others operations and if something went out on the logistics craft bringing in supplies well they'd just sorta look the other way explaining it by asking how else are they going to fund a 30,000 man strong militia?
If anything the suggestion tends to be used as a strawman to dismiss people as conspiracy theorists.
But of course if you've got sources...?

floatingslowly 09.10.2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by girlgun
i've actually done PCP. it was an accident though and it was only once.


that's what you get for picking up dudes at the state fair.

notyourfiend 09.10.2009 01:30 PM

I know people who've done it. They have not enjoyed their experiences. To say the least.

girlgun 09.10.2009 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
that's what you get for picking up dudes at the state fair.



it was a concert AT the fair. not regular fair. and yes... that's what i get.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 09.10.2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by girlgun
i've actually done PCP. it was an accident though and it was only once.


Rob is probably sad right now because he missed a golden chance to take advantage of you.

Rob Instigator 09.10.2009 02:30 PM

that dust hit GG so hard she took advantage of ME. I only felt used and abused for a week or so, until my cock stopped being sore and raw.
she really tore me up.

Rob Instigator 09.10.2009 04:03 PM

no it is not.

Satan 09.10.2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
"fool how much you wanna bet, that I can dance under water, and not get wet!" mack 10

that my good friend is reference to smoking sherm.

no pcp is not a myth. I have smoked that shit. it is fucking crazy. it is wild. it is dangerous. in the hood, people dip p-dogs (a crack sprinkled joint of weed) into some sherm (liquid pcp) to make "Ghostbusters" to go out and do "dirt" which includes acts of violence which sober people are not capable of. In the early 1990s PCP was drive-by juice..

before crack PCP is what destroyed Compton/Watts area. people were hooked on that dust like a mofo..

DON'T SMOKE IT. its crazy. the high is like drinking a million beers without falling down..

and Rob, sherm is real pcp. it is relatively easy to make, you can do it in 48 hours in yr garage and you can get about a gallon of that shit with $600 worth of household chemicals from the HomeDepot.. know your cook..

"my neighborhood chef Raul, known for clowning chickens and turnin one into two thats what he's used.." e-40


more LA stories please!!



i think i smoked some weed laced with pcp once but i don't know

!@#$%! 09.10.2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
you missed off the second verse, where he rips the front off of a bus


magical realism?

atsonicpark 09.10.2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
I saw a documentary once from the 80's that showed a dude that was high on Angel Dust. It was f'd up.


Is that the one where the guy used all his money to buy a bunch of musical equipment because pcp made him "not care" and then he saw bugs on his arms and jumped out of a window? We had to watch that in health class when I was in 8th grade..

gmku 09.10.2009 04:34 PM

Also known as Angel Dust. God, how I miss the 70s.

Toilet & Bowels 09.10.2009 07:29 PM

a girl i know from the ukraine used to do it when she was a teenager there because it was the most easily available drug, or so she says, she's a bit histrionic so i can never tell how accurate what she says is

notyourfiend 09.10.2009 07:32 PM

A friend of mine accidentally smoked PCP and hallucinated a blob trying to attack her. She says it was one of the scariest moments of her life.

demonrail666 09.10.2009 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
magical realism?


possibly. the guy was called hector and had a waxed moustache.

noisereductions 09.10.2009 07:42 PM

Waterworld is a 2004 album by the Leak Bros. The Leak Bros. is a rap duo composed of underground rappers Cage Kennylz and Tame One. Every song on Waterworld is about the drug PCP. The practice of doing PCP is often known as "getting wet," making the title "Waterworld" a direct reference to the drug. The Leak Bros. made their first appearance on Cage's 2003 E.P. Weatherproof on the song "Leak Bros.," which was also solely about PCP and on Tame One's When Rappers Attack, a song called Leak Smoke.

[edit] PCP References

Every song on "Waterworld" is about PCP. The terms "wet," "leak," "fry", "sherm," "dip," "death," "angel dust," "dust," "purple rain," "embalming fluid," and "formaldehyde" are all street names for PCP, and are all frequently mentioned throughout the album. Lines such as "I smoked this dip once, got high for six months, twenty three days, six hospital stays and I missed lunch" graphically portray the dramatic effects of PCP. Cage and Tame One frequently mention "dipping" cigarettes, blunts and other smoking material in PCP. The track Leakie Leak is supposed to be a voice message left by a girl high on PCP, who claims "I'm fucking dusted, and I want you to bust a nut kid." Dusted is a slang term for being high on PCP.

[edit] Track listing
  1. PCP Ward |Produced by: Dj Mighty Mi|
  2. Got Wet |Produced by: Camu Tao|
  3. Waterworld |Produced by: Camu Tao|
  4. See Thru |Produced by: Mondee|
  5. G.O.D. |Produced by: J-Zone|
  6. Gimmesumdeath |Produced by: RJD2|
  7. Follow the Liters |Produced by: Grimace|
  8. Dead |Produced by: DJ Mighty Mi|
  9. Druggie Fresh |Produced by: Kool Mellow Max 165|
  10. Delerium |Produced by: Camu tao|
  11. Leakie Leak(skit)
  12. Stargate |Produced by: DJ Mighty Mi|
  13. Submerged |Produced by: El-P|
  14. Outro |Produced by: Emz

floatingslowly 09.10.2009 08:22 PM

caught you poppin' that weak and you must of been dusted
dusted dusted dusted dusted
stuck yr head in the toilet and stone cold flushed it
flushed it flushed it flushed it flushed it
WORD

noisereductions 09.10.2009 08:24 PM

dammit floslow, why you always gotta bring raps music into this?

Satan 09.10.2009 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypertonic
i was slipped something bad one time.... Suspected PCP. But never really knew. Felt strange all night. Had a "episode" about a week later. Yeah I wouldn't risk ever trying it. Recently some people in my city have been smoking DMT. That shit isn't anything to laugh off either apparently.


wait what city in the midwest..?

i bet i know where

+that shit is crazy


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