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notyourfiend 09.25.2009 10:44 AM

Susan Atkins dies
 
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/25/...ins/index.html

eh...I'm not going to post the entire article because then you'll have to scroll down way too much. But essentially, Susan Atkins (the former member of the Manson family) just died of cancer. She was 61.

floatingslowly 09.25.2009 10:56 AM

inb4 "Manson was right".

atsonicpark 09.25.2009 11:59 AM

Another fallen heroine.

girlgun 09.25.2009 12:29 PM

good.

FreshChops 09.25.2009 01:45 PM

..... soulless, no personality having, clay puppet bitch! How cool you were to worship the word of a deranged, aimless lunatic!

"heroine", that's about as cool as tattooing a nazi swastika on your head without knowing what it fuck it's even supposed to stand for.... but doing it acting out in anarchy...... grow the fuck up! "heroine"? Yeah, for slaughtering innocent, defenseless, and pregnant people!

Satan 09.25.2009 01:46 PM

see you in hell, bitch

atsonicpark 09.25.2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreshChops
..... soulless, no personality having, clay puppet bitch! How cool you were to worship the word of a deranged, aimless lunatic!

"heroine", that's about as cool as tattooing a nazi swastika on your head without knowing what it fuck it's even supposed to stand for.... but doing it acting out in anarchy...... grow the fuck up! "heroine"? Yeah, for slaughtering innocent, defenseless, and pregnant people!


YEAH! HEROINE!

...I was kidding.

notyourfiend 09.25.2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreshChops
..... soulless, no personality having, clay puppet bitch! How cool you were to worship the word of a deranged, aimless lunatic!

"heroine", that's about as cool as tattooing a nazi swastika on your head without knowing what it fuck it's even supposed to stand for.... but doing it acting out in anarchy...... grow the fuck up! "heroine"? Yeah, for slaughtering innocent, defenseless, and pregnant people!


...remember, it was all the result of a bad acid trip.......

Satan 09.25.2009 01:49 PM

y'all, nazis didn't invent the swastika

atsonicpark 09.25.2009 01:50 PM

Fun thread.

atsonicpark 09.25.2009 01:51 PM

There are inverted swastikas carved in the Wal-mart bathroom stalls.

notyourfiend 09.25.2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
There are inverted swastikas carved in the Wal-mart bathroom stalls.


which location are YOU closest too?

EDIT: according to yr profile it's the one closest to nowhere.

atsonicpark 09.25.2009 01:54 PM

I'm in columbus, indiana.

FreshChops 09.25.2009 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
if the swastika comment was a reference to manson, i suggest you do some research.


It's a general stereotyping, I think the people who think that their act was heroic or look up to them, are the same people who would tattoo themselves with a symbol of rebellion, just out of angst..... knowing nothing about the meaning of it in the first place.

As far as Manson, he sounds like a little sell out bitch! What a leader, what a visionary..... first sign of trouble, he converts to the next best thing.

There's no justification in what those girls did!

FreshChops 09.25.2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
There are inverted swastikas carved in the Wal-mart bathroom stalls.


What's an "inverted" swastika? .... a yellow smiley face?

 

atsonicpark 09.25.2009 02:03 PM

I mean, I see backwards swastikas.. like, someone didn't know how to draw one properly... and they're always carved in there.. really weird.

Let's not turn this into The Manson Thread 2.

Satan 09.25.2009 02:05 PM

manson is undeniably interesting. what crazy fuck isn't?

notyourfiend 09.25.2009 02:06 PM

i find female serial killers to be infinitely more fascinating

atsonicpark 09.25.2009 02:07 PM

Fuck yea.

Satan 09.25.2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyourfiend
i find female serial killers to be infinitely more fascinating

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bell

FreshChops 09.25.2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
i think hes interesting. i dont think theres anything wrong with the fact that i find him interesting.


OK, nothing wrong with it.

He is interesting, but I've always seen him as more conniving and deceiving than intelligent. Kinda more of an "actor". He's always known just how and when to make "crazy eyes" to keep people at distance, but interested all the same. Also as an intimidation factor, he's played into and over acted the "crazy" thing. I see him as very feeble and intimidated, but just acts all crazy to intimidate threats. I think he's just intelligent enough to know when and how to act crazy to maintain his reputation. I guess that could be interesting, but I wouldn't consider him intelligent.

.... but honestly, I haven't read any books or anything by him, so I sure he's full of wisdom, that I don't know about.

automatic bzooty 09.25.2009 02:14 PM

we watched some video of various manson parole hearings in my law class. bananas.

floatingslowly 09.25.2009 02:16 PM

the swastika is a symbol of peace, maaaan.

like Nelson Mandela, but with four arms and an army of blonde occultists.

terriblecanyons 09.25.2009 02:17 PM

 

Anngella 09.25.2009 04:08 PM

I feel dumb for thinking this was the bitch with the diet before reading the thread.

artsygrrl 09.25.2009 08:08 PM

haha, I just told my Dave (aka Pincho) that Susan Atkins died and he said, "You mean of the Atkin's Diet?"

jennthebenn 09.25.2009 08:11 PM

I'm a true crime buff and frankly, Countess Bathory, Genene Jones and
Belle Gunness are the female killer triumvirate.

infinitemusic 09.26.2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satan
y'all, nazis didn't invent the swastika


I thought everybody knew that... but you should mention that the swastika used before the nazis was inverted or something. They aren't exactly the same.

artsygrrl 09.26.2009 10:51 PM

I don't understand these killers who "repent" and "find God" while in prison or whatever. They think that because God has forgiven them, then why can't the rest of the world? It's so fucking hypocritical. Find God on your way to Hell, bitch.

static-harmony 09.27.2009 01:17 AM

Kill Your Idols.

terriblecanyons 09.27.2009 02:24 AM

whoa, someone else posted something!

pbradley 09.27.2009 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Let's not turn this into The Manson Thread 2.

Let's. So I can post this, again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5IrRe2F7qY

and for something new

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00MkQrlauM8

atsonicpark 09.27.2009 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artsygrrl
I don't understand these killers who "repent" and "find God" while in prison or whatever. They think that because God has forgiven them, then why can't the rest of the world? It's so fucking hypocritical. Find God on your way to Hell, bitch.


How is it hypocritical? The whole point of Christianity IS to forgive. Isn't that why fictional character Jesus died and then came back to life and still loved people, instead of taking his revenge?... Maybe I'm too forgiving of a person myself -- as I've said elsewhere, I was beaten, molested, etc. but I forgave the person. But (and this is what brought up that thread the other day that I made about it) my mom, on the other hand, will never forgive the person, still wanting to go beat her up and all this stuff -- you know, my mom is more tore up and revenge-seeking than I am, and I was the one who actually got slapped around and my dick played with! Haha. But, sure, I'd forgive someone who murdered my family 40 years ago, when they were a different person, as well. Hell, in a way, I'm probably more Christian than any actual Christians! Who's to say, she probably did "find God". What's the difference? If the world was more "forgiving", then the world would be a better place. Maybe.

It's interesting what you said, though, because I posed this question to a preacher when I was 12 years old. I've only went to church maybe 15 times in my entire life and this was one of the last times. I asked him.. if a person is "saved" by God and then goes on to murder someone, will he still go to Heaven? And the preacher said "anyone that believes in God will go to Heaven."

Of course, having read the Bible in its entirety twice, I seem to recall there being many points in it where it talks about how there's a narrow way to Heaven and only few shall enter the kingdom. But, you know, the Bible is a book for a society that existed hundreds of years ago and probably has no bearing on the society we currently live in (especially with all the revisions to it and whatnot). It's like someone worshipping my fucking t-shirt in 500 years from now.

Regardless, it may not be "cool" to say, but I'm sure Susan Atkins probably did feel bad for what she did... I am part of the world who forgives her, I guess.

artsygrrl 09.27.2009 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
How is it hypocritical? The whole point of Christianity IS to forgive. Isn't that why fictional character Jesus died and then came back to life and still loved people, instead of taking his revenge?... Maybe I'm too forgiving of a person myself -- as I've said elsewhere, I was beaten, molested, etc. but I forgave the person. But (and this is what brought up that thread the other day that I made about it) my mom, on the other hand, will never forgive the person, still wanting to go beat her up and all this stuff -- you know, my mom is more tore up and revenge-seeking than I am, and I was the one who actually got slapped around and my dick played with! Haha. But, sure, I'd forgive someone who murdered my family 40 years ago, when they were a different person, as well. Hell, in a way, I'm probably more Christian than any actual Christians! Who's to say, she probably did "find God". What's the difference? If the world was more "forgiving", then the world would be a better place. Maybe.

It's interesting what you said, though, because I posed this question to a preacher when I was 12 years old. I've only went to church maybe 15 times in my entire life and this was one of the last times. I asked him.. if a person is "saved" by God and then goes on to murder someone, will he still go to Heaven? And the preacher said "anyone that believes in God will go to Heaven."

Of course, having read the Bible in its entirety twice, I seem to recall there being many points in it where it talks about how there's a narrow way to Heaven and only few shall enter the kingdom. But, you know, the Bible is a book for a society that existed hundreds of years ago and probably has no bearing on the society we currently live in (especially with all the revisions to it and whatnot). It's like someone worshipping my fucking t-shirt in 500 years from now.

Regardless, it may not be "cool" to say, but I'm sure Susan Atkins probably did feel bad for what she did... I am part of the world who forgives her, I guess.

...and because of certain events in MY life, I am too jaded and untrusting to be anything but jaded and untrusting.

atsonicpark 09.27.2009 10:04 AM

God save us all?

chicka 09.27.2009 10:27 AM

Forgiving Susan Atkins and the other women is one thing let them out of jail another. I can forgive them for being stupid young little hoodsies who were manipulated by a con man but they still have to pay the ultimate price for the ultimate crime. The death penalty is too easy a punishment imo.

Manson was not intelligent in the sense of a high IQ he was book smart from the reading he did in jail for I think robbery before he formed his little tribe.

Prisstina 09.27.2009 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
i dont think so either.

i dont think manson is this great guy. i do think he was/is highly intellgent though (intelligence doesnt always have to be used for the bettering of mankind in order to be considered intelligence).

i think hes interesting. i dont think theres anything wrong with the fact that i find him interesting.


manson is extremely intelligent.

his childhood was extremely fucked up and he was constantly on drugs from early adulthood through his conviction. the only thing that set him apart from any other drug-taking "hippie" at the time was the fact that he managed to get young, horny, naive girls to listen to him because of his charisma.

the only reason the manson family got so much shit is because susan atkins and a few others (NOT charles manson) killed a pregnant actress.

infinitemusic 09.27.2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prisstina
manson is extremely intelligent.

his childhood was extremely fucked up and he was constantly on drugs from early adulthood through his conviction. the only thing that set him apart from any other drug-taking "hippie" at the time was the fact that he managed to get young, horny, naive girls to listen to him because of his charisma.

the only reason the manson family got so much shit is because susan atkins and a few others (NOT charles manson) killed a pregnant actress.


Charisma and intelligence aren't the same thing

Lurker 09.27.2009 05:04 PM

Nope but I've never met a moron who was charismatic.

infinitemusic 09.27.2009 05:26 PM

Actually, charisma is one of the many things that can fool morons into believing someone is much more intelligent and worthy of following than they really are.

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