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porkmarras 06.28.2006 04:31 AM

Meanswear-Stardust
 
Don't shoot me for this:
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.ph...15681D392D72BA

alyasa 06.28.2006 04:44 AM

Is this Menswear, the britpop band?

porkmarras 06.28.2006 04:46 AM

yep

alyasa 06.28.2006 04:49 AM

A review of the album this track is taken from...

"Nuisance" (a self-deprecating title if ever there was one...) is a great and varied album. It mostly bounces along on the poppy guitars and excitable lyrics that can only come from having an average age under 22. Led by the fey, lithe, androgenous and handsome Johnny Dean, the boys examined such topics as bumming around New York, bumping into your ex girlfriends and being famous in 4/4 time with big choruses, cheery harmonies and classic lyrics (""Tess", he said "I don't understand how they grow tomatoes in a can...""). However, inbetween all the pop-rock lay some ballads that displayed a more serene side to the band, and a musical and lyrical maturity that was unexpected based on their public image, and largely over-looked by a music press intent only on building artists up to knock them down. "Being Brave" and "Piece of Me" are soul-searching gems that wouldn't be out of place on a Bright Eyes or Dashboard Confessional album, and the hidden bonus track "Nuisance" adds a further depth and musical expansion by being both guitarless and in 3/4 time.
Shamelessly borrowing from the Beatles, Kinks and Stones and yet creating a sound and an image that was unmistakably their own Menswe@r ruled 1995. With poppy guitar-rock now back in fashion and called "Emo", you owe it to yourself and your musical education to check out this album. Anything else just wouldn't be cricket eh?

EDIT: anyway, good track... I don't know how you keep coming up with these... :)

porkmarras 06.28.2006 04:52 AM

Oh the album is rather appaling but Stardust is a top tune.

alyasa 06.28.2006 04:54 AM

It's fun... very pop. TBH, it sounds like something off RR, heh. ;)

porkmarras 06.28.2006 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by alyasa
It's fun... very pop. TBH, it sounds like something off RR, heh. ;)

ha!;)

Toilet & Bowels 06.28.2006 05:14 AM

i remember an issue of select that came out during the britpop period when TM & LR reviewed the singles and were disgusted by all that stuff, little did they know that in 10 years time they themselves would be making a record to trump the insipidness of anything the britpop rabble could achieve

alyasa 06.28.2006 05:17 AM

The spirit is there; but Menswear et al, couldn't make anything approaching the majesty and grandeur of a Sonic Youth record. Listen to a Britpop album and then Rather Ripped back-to-back. You'll know what I mean.

porkmarras 06.28.2006 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i remember an issue of select that came out during the britpop period when TM & LR reviewed the singles and were disgusted by all that stuff, little did they know that in 10 years time they themselves would be making a record to trump the insipidness of anything the britpop rabble could achieve

Yep,i remember tha issue.It made for fun reading.I might get stoned for this but Stardust is better than anything on Rather Ripped.Weren't they the best dressed band in Britain(or so proclaimed the melody maker)?ha

Toilet & Bowels 06.28.2006 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Yep,i remember tha issue.It made for fun reading.I might get stoned for this but Stardust is better than anything on Rather Ripped.


that's debatable as reena is a tune not without redemption

alyasa 06.28.2006 05:35 AM

Menswear were really well-dressed. They were hyped as being one of the most well-dressed bands in Britain. I'm not sure, but I prefer Rather Ripped somewhat; in addition to excellent songs like Reena; there is always that undercurrent of noise and dissonance, faint and muted it may be here, nevertheless it's there. It won't be there in a britpop album; not like the way Sonic Youth does it, not ingrained in the very DNA of their sound like Sonic Youth. :)

Glice 06.28.2006 05:36 AM

Christ's own. Here's something to make you feel old: That menswe@r record was the first album I bought with my own money. I still enjoy it for that reason.

Glice 06.28.2006 05:37 AM

Are you moving onto Sleeper next porkie?

AND FUCK YOU ALL THE SLEEPER HATERRZZ, THEY HAD SOME GOOD TUNEZZ.

jon boy 06.28.2006 05:38 AM

breath deeper daydreamer. i can remember the exact way that cockmuncher said that and everything. i hear they work in insurance now.

porkmarras 06.28.2006 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Are you moving onto Sleeper next porkie?

AND FUCK YOU ALL THE SLEEPER HATERRZZ, THEY HAD SOME GOOD TUNEZZ.

Yes,'What do i do now?' is next on the agenda.

porkmarras 06.28.2006 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
breath deeper daydreamer. i can remember the exact way that cockmuncher said that and everything. i hear they work in insurance now.

Simon was collecting glasses and djing at the Monarch in Camden for a while.He now manages Bloc Party.I don't know about the rest.

alyasa 06.28.2006 05:41 AM

Insurance? How appropriate.

Glice 06.28.2006 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
Yes,'What do i do now?' is next on the agenda.


Good call. Nice work on avoiding the obvious Inbetweener one.

There was a lot of great-for-a-couple-of-singles girl-y groups come out of that era, wasn't there? Sleeper, Echobelly, Elastica, Salad, Posh, Kenicke (although they were great period), Bis... erm... ok, I'm sure there're more.

Toilet & Bowels 06.28.2006 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Christ's own. Here's something to make you feel old: That menswe@r record was the first album I bought with my own money. I still enjoy it for that reason.


bloody hell

Toilet & Bowels 06.28.2006 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Good call. Nice work on avoiding the obvious Inbetweener one.

There was a lot of great-for-a-couple-of-singles girl-y groups come out of that era, wasn't there? Sleeper, Echobelly, Elastica, Salad, Posh, Kenicke (although they were great period), Bis... erm... ok, I'm sure there're more.



pearl


nice to see the word "great" is as open to interpratation now as it was then


i recently found out that my friend's boyfriend used to be in the llama farmers

porkmarras 06.28.2006 05:49 AM

Salad?Posh?Haha

porkmarras 06.28.2006 05:52 AM

Bis used to get on my tits though.They had a serious lack of tunes and she wasnt as sexy as Cerys of Catatonia.

Glice 06.28.2006 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
pearl


nice to see the word "great" is as open to interpratation now as it was then


i recently found out that my friend's boyfriend used to be in the llama farmers


A friend of mine stole a distortion pedal off of them.

I like Bis. Did you hear the second album where they went all shiny disco electro pop? It were great, I tells ye.

porkmarras 06.28.2006 06:04 AM

The boyfriend of the girl who used to play in Llama Farmers used to work in one of the bars here at the NT.He knicked my copy of the Forcarnation album and i if i ever see him down the street he's going to get a smack.Llama Farmers were everything that is evil with this world.

Toilet & Bowels 06.28.2006 06:05 AM

i remember salad had a tune i liked, if anyone can up it, it was one of their singles... i'll love that person.

also, girl fronted groups of that era:

linoleum
brassy

porkmarras 06.28.2006 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i remember salad had a tune i liked, if anyone can up it, it was one of their singles... i'll love that person.

also, girl fronted groups of that era:

linoleum
brassy

Linoleum had a good tune that i liked but i can't remember its name for the love of Jesus.The cover of the single was light blue and it had some yellow thing on it.I should have called this the britpop thread really,shouldn't have i?

Toilet & Bowels 06.28.2006 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
The boyfriend of the girl who used to play in Llama Farmers used to work in one of the bars here at the NT.He knicked my copy of the Forcarnation album and i if i ever see him down the street he's going to get a smack.Llama Farmers were everything that is evil with this world.


well all the members of llama farmers are now in a new franz ferdinand/bloc party type band. it's pretty lame really, as the one who is going out with my friend just seems like a real trend follower

Toilet & Bowels 06.28.2006 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
Linoleum had a good tune that i liked but i can't remember its name for the love of Jesus.The cover of the single was light blue and it had some yellow thing on it.I should have called this the britpop thread really,shouldn't have i?



yeah, i liked the only song i ever heard by them

Glice 06.28.2006 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
i remember salad had a tune i liked, if anyone can up it, it was one of their singles... i'll love that person.

also, girl fronted groups of that era:

linoleum
brassy


Word.

I think the linoleum single might be smear (There must be vaseline on your lens...) but they also had a couple of other ones, one of which included the timeless and epoch defining lyrics, "I won't go out tonight/ can't be bothered/ I won't be stumbling in/ dangerous shoes/ dangerous shoes"

Brassy, also yes. There was another heavier girl band I can't remember the name of, blonde hair, a bit Courtney Love-y, but not brassy. And also there was a kind of art-school band who had a single called 'plastic bag' and they went on stage naked a lot... who were they?

Glice 06.28.2006 06:18 AM

Actually, Google reminds me that you're probably thinking of 'on a tuesday' ("I hardly know you...") which was also great.

This is mental anguish in the shape of nostalgia.

porkmarras 06.28.2006 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Word.

I think the linoleum single might be smear (There must be vaseline on your lens...) but they also had a couple of other ones, one of which included the timeless and epoch defining lyrics, "I won't go out tonight/ can't be bothered/ I won't be stumbling in/ dangerous shoes/ dangerous shoes"

Brassy, also yes. There was another heavier girl band I can't remember the name of, blonde hair, a bit Courtney Love-y, but not brassy. And also there was a kind of art-school band who had a single called 'plastic bag' and they went on stage naked a lot... who were they?

Spot on.It was vaseline,thanks.

Toilet & Bowels 06.28.2006 06:19 AM

fluffy?
cay?

Glice 06.28.2006 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
fluffy?
cay?


Fluffy, that's the kiddies. All leapord print and growling.

The art-school band though? The word 'plastic' is swimming to mind, but nothing more concrete.

Cay had a shocking live show.

Now. Here's the clincher: Stony Sleep's 'a slack romance' is a great lost record. I'll up it later, because it really is very good indeed.

jon boy 06.28.2006 06:22 AM

AND FUCK YOU ALL THE SLEEPER HATERRZZ, THEY HAD SOME GOOD TUNEZZ.[/quote]

name one.

porkmarras 06.28.2006 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Fluffy, that's the kiddies. All leapord print and growling.

The art-school band though? The word 'plastic' is swimming to mind, but nothing more concrete.

Cay had a shocking live show.

Now. Here's the clincher: Stony Sleep's 'a slack romance' is a great lost record. I'll up it later, because it really is very good indeed.

Stony sleep.i'll have to look through my record collection because they are there,somewhere.

porkmarras 06.28.2006 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jon boy
AND FUCK YOU ALL THE SLEEPER HATERRZZ, THEY HAD SOME GOOD TUNEZZ.


name one.[/quote]
'inbetweener' and 'what do i do now'.Classics.

porkmarras 06.28.2006 06:43 AM

I have a craving for These Animal Men's 'You are not my Babylon' ep now.I blame it on you guys.

Glice 06.28.2006 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
I have a craving for These Animal Men's 'You are not my Babylon' ep now.I blame it on you guys.


Bits of These Animal Men were in Mo' Solid Gold. Mo' Solid Gold had an absolutely blindingly fantastic frontman. You wouldn't believe how utterly brilliant this guy was. Almost that good that you forgot the music was the most turgid shite imaginable.

I've seen Mo' Solid Gold loads and loads of times. Honestly, he's that good a frontman. Never, ever buy their records though.

It's a paradox in an enigma.

porkmarras 06.28.2006 06:47 AM

Glice have a look through this list to see if there is anything that rings a bell.


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