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SonikJesus 10.23.2009 01:26 AM

who do you hate more and why?
 

Who do u hate more and why?


 


OR


 

Sonic Youth 37 10.23.2009 01:29 AM

Bono should be put against a wall for the good of mankind.

atsonicpark 10.23.2009 01:34 AM

Billy Corgan. His band has one good song ("Zero").

U2 had about 5 or 6 good songs... so..

I'm not going to base it on anything besides them just being in bands who make music. No personal shit -- both of them are cockhounds. I'd probably take both of them, combined -- professionally and personally -- over that Deerhunter guy though.

phoenix 10.23.2009 01:42 AM

bono. he is just ridiculous.

alteredcourse 10.23.2009 01:51 AM

God, I love the song Soma by SP way too much to ever compare.

Oh fuck. I am probably going to cry.

jennthebenn 10.23.2009 01:55 AM

Bono was once seriously considered for a Nobel Peace Prize.

Corgan threw cock up in Courtney Love. He may very well still.

Musically...I take "Siamese Dream" over "The Unforgettable Fire." So
Bono it is.

alteredcourse 10.23.2009 01:58 AM

I feel sometimes like I'm such a puppet of influence. And sometimes I feel like at least sometimes the puppetmasters of the time of my personal conception were full of blood and sincerity, as bat-shit crazy and deluded they might have been. And thats all I can go on. Blood blood blood, up the puget sound and into the georgia straight, into my toes as I dangled my lil kid feet off a rotting pier. There will be something left for me, I thought, they're there because they mean it.

Satan 10.23.2009 02:04 AM

bono because he's in U2



oh and he's a douchebag

atsonicpark 10.23.2009 02:07 AM

I'd like to change my original answer to this:

U2 has a great song called "One".

SP has a decent song called "Zero".


"One" beats "Zero" (huh huh, GET IT? GET IT? YOU GEDDIT?). I voted for Billy.

vulva 10.23.2009 02:19 AM

machina 2 means bono

alteredcourse 10.23.2009 02:20 AM

I love Bodies, and Where Boys Fear to Tread, and To Forgive.
And Eye.

I like a lot about SP.

When I was little, I used to like a lot about U2, as well. When some songs would come on the radio, I felt moved. And eventually, it was played out. So, for these things, it's probably all about circumstance. Funny how that works, like I'm not really me at all.

GeneticKiss 10.23.2009 02:29 AM

Celebrity hate is stupid. Don't waste your time. It just makes you look shallow.

FreshChops 10.23.2009 03:35 AM

Ah ha, trick question! You said who do you hate more.... like you've gotta hate them both. I actually don't hate either, but I could tolerate a lot more U2 music than I could Smashing Pumpkins.... although both have had their moments in influencing music.

I think as a fan of music, it's commendable to respect musicians / artists who offer something new and unique, even if it wasn't done to your taste. I think the world is getting so full of copy-cat artist to where I can't here anything new these days that doesn't sound like a direct reflection of the artists immediate influences. Both of those guys are one of a kind and when they were coming up, stretched everyones imagination. They also, from our perspective have made fools of themselves time and again.... but they also haven't conformed to what the public would like them to be or say. It's easy to hate them because of that, but I can see past their public persona and appreciate them as artists.

If you want to measure them by social engagements or community contributions.... I'd say Bono. He seems to do more for others with his time while Corgan would rather people stay away from him. I also don't blame them, they have spent half their lives having millions of people insist they are gods no matter where they go.... if they seem a little smug, after a while, I'm sure it's un-avoidable.

atsonicpark 10.23.2009 03:42 AM

Yeah, the votes so far have blown my mind. Bono might be annoying but Billy Corgan is the WORST HUMAN BEING EVER.

Glice 10.23.2009 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Yeah, the votes so far have blown my mind. Bono might be annoying but Billy Corgan is the WORST HUMAN BEING EVER.


This is all sorts of wrong logic. Corgan is just a musician who talks shite in interviews. Bono is the indefatigably stampable face of every vainglorious, ill-conceived, tokenistic, patronising cod-political effort made by an ego-mad cunt. Corgan can be as much of a prick as he wants, but I've never known to interfere on things that actually matter and get it so horribly wrong. By which I mean Live 8s 'raising awareness' (that'll really help Africa! Thanks, celebrities!) and Live Aids (money back into corrupt governments to continue to fund militias and further fuck over already fucked populaces? Thanks, celebrities!)

_slavo_ 10.23.2009 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Bono is the indefatigably stampable face of every vainglorious, ill-conceived, tokenistic, patronising cod-political effort made by an ego-mad cunt.


I was expecting something big when I saw you posted in this thread, but this is unquestionably an ultimate sentence.

Sonic Youth Gossip 10.23.2009 04:27 AM

i dunno
corgan is more of a douche but some of his (older) tunes aren't so bad at all. U2 on the other hand I never really dug.

Genteel Death 10.23.2009 04:31 AM

 

 


When I look at those two pictures, I can't make up my mind.

pbradley 10.23.2009 04:38 AM

The first song that I ever liked, beside my mediocre appreciation of classic rock, was a U2 song. "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me," to be exact, from the Batman Forever movie. I still maintain that song is fucking awesome but I have no concern for nor relation to U2 other than that.

Smashing Pumpkins, however, was one of those bands that crystalized my middle-class, pre-teen angst and, therefore, get nostalgia points for showing up.

So it comes down to a twat I know only through the noise tunnel of political humanitarian activism and a twat I know far more personally. However, the twat you do know can often be more offensive than the twat you don't. I shall place them both past the line of contrast and say rubbish is rubbish.

Toilet & Bowels 10.23.2009 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
The first song that I ever liked, beside my mediocre appreciation of classic rock, was a U2 song. "Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me," to be exact, from the Batman Forever movie. I still maintain that song is fucking awesome but I have no concern for nor relation to U2 other than that.




wait, that was the first song you ever liked, and yet you're old enough to be in university?!?!?!?!


Re: corgan/bono - no strong feelings either way, who cares?

pbradley 10.23.2009 05:18 AM

Not really the absolute first. More like the first single. Previously I was either apathetic about music or listened to older rock.

atsonicpark 10.23.2009 05:28 AM

First song I ever remember liking was UNBELIEVABLE by EMF.

OH!!!!!!!!!! *dun dun dun dun dundledunddun*

Next song I got obsessed with was the Guns N Roses and Metallica discographies.

Besides that.. um.. just video game music.

pbradley 10.23.2009 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
OH!!!!!!!!!! *dun dun dun dun dundledunddun*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-agDnIqC60o

SONIC GAIL 10.23.2009 08:40 AM

I'm not voting cause they both get on my nerves

SONIC GAIL 10.23.2009 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
First song I ever remember liking was UNBELIEVABLE by EMF.

OH!!!!!!!!!! *dun dun dun dun dundledunddun*

Next song I got obsessed with was the Guns N Roses and Metallica discographies.

Besides that.. um.. just video game music.


I was obsessed with gnr and metallica when i was a kid

!@#$%! 10.23.2009 11:43 AM

jeezus as if i cared enough to hate either


go find yourself a worthy enemy

chicka 10.23.2009 11:57 AM

I was leaning towards Bono but I must give credit where credit is due after reading Glice's post my mind was made
up. Bono!

I agree with Slavo that sentence was one mouthful of
venomous truth. bravo

SuperCreep 10.23.2009 12:27 PM

Billy.

Granted, they're both twats, but at least Bono has done some noble humanitarian work (even if he goes on like an asshole about it) and some of U2's stuff from Boy to Achtung Baby is pretty good. Billy/SP are just crap and always have been.

dirty bunny 10.23.2009 01:05 PM

they're both egotistical tools, but I don't hate either

atsonicpark 10.23.2009 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley


fuck yeah.

Whitest Kids, surprisingly good show.

YOU FUCKED UP NOW!

notyourfiend 10.23.2009 01:37 PM

bono, because at least mr. corgan can write a mean song!

knox 10.23.2009 02:40 PM

think about it. corgan might be a big asshole but at least he's not trying to impose that or save the world or shaking hands with evil politicians during UN gala dinners posing for photos with a variety of coloured sunglasses that cost enough to feed a child in africa that he's trying to save for at least a month, or even having gigs so big with lights and effects and transporting equipment that pollute the enviroment he's trying to save. oh. and the sunglasses. so guess what.

and the music - remember discoteque.

acousticrock87 10.23.2009 03:17 PM

I don't trust people who hate Bono. It makes no sense to me.

But Corgan is a prick.

knox 10.23.2009 03:22 PM

how come? how could you NOT hate bono?

acousticrock87 10.23.2009 03:26 PM

He's just never comes across as such a bad person to me. I think people mistake "naive" for "pretentious". And even then, I think it's severely exaggerated. He's just easy too criticize because he does so much.

knox 10.23.2009 03:27 PM

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020304/story.html

Lurker 10.23.2009 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
jeezus as if i cared enough to hate either


go find yourself a worthy enemy




Hmmm, that's a bit Neitzschean. Good attitude.

acousticrock87 10.23.2009 03:35 PM

That's kind of my point. He even calls himself a selfish asshole. So he tries to make up for it by directing himself at something productive. That's all. I think he's honestly into the Africa thing for good reasons.

I've tried not to like him, and you can say what you want about how effective he actually is, but I just can't get a bad vibe from the guy.

knox 10.23.2009 03:42 PM

Well then.

Glice 10.23.2009 03:49 PM

Hitler was kind to his family.

Now, I'm not one to spread scurrilous comparisons, but Bono is also kind to his family. Which makes him exactly like Hitler. So, y'know, if you want to say that someone who isn't officially 99.99% genetically similar to Hitler (namely Bono) isn't a total cunt, then... well, you do that. I'm just saying that the end of civilization will come about because of Bono. That's not a fact, but it is true.


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