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wellcharge 12.07.2009 03:09 AM

some cheap jazzmaster imitations that seem ok
 
these are much cheaper than the sy sigs and are supposedly pretty good, if you're thinking of looking for a cheap guitar this could be a sweet optioon

http://store.guitarfetish.com/xvseofgu.html

 

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.07.2009 03:39 PM

also:

http://www.fretcity.com/shop/cart.ph...category_id=70
http://www.rondomusic.com/electricguitar-ss3.html
http://www.rondomusic.com/electricguitar-ss4.html
http://www.rondomusic.com/electricguitar-ss6.html

and a Bass VI copy:
http://www.rondomusic.com/arguslpb.html




I know the SX SJMs have a different shape than a jazzmaster, but they've got the same set=up and stuff

hevusa 12.07.2009 07:32 PM

how could a guitar that cheap even be playable??? anyone have experience playing any of these?

Pookie 12.07.2009 07:33 PM

I was going to say exactly that but I was going to use the word playabubble.

jon boy 12.07.2009 08:40 PM

there is a danelectro one out. sorry if thats mentioned above i cant be bothered to look!

http://www.danelectro.com/guitars_main2.html

 

Jeremy 12.07.2009 09:45 PM

So the 40 model is a Jazzmaster, same wiring, same pickups, bridge, etc.

The 60 is a Jagmaster.

The 90 is a Telecaster variation in a Jazz/Jag form.

They look excellent, and are pretty much direct knock-offs, which make the price seem fantastic. I have a friend who played some of their Strat copies and said they were a great company. Problem is most of us have, we're too tempted to play before buying, which is hard for these guitars.

Still, at around $200, that's pretty amazing. You could just save up and buy an actual Jazzmaster or Jaguar, but these are probably the best alternatives (Besides a Jagmaster possibly). Thanks for heads up!

I'll post some more knock offs later.

~Jeremy~

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.07.2009 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
how could a guitar that cheap even be playable??? anyone have experience playing any of these?


I've played cheaper guitars that are playable.

hevusa 12.08.2009 12:54 PM

not I.

wellcharge 12.08.2009 01:10 PM

my $85 dollar sx bass(fender jazz copy) is pretty much the same as the actual $800 bass it copies,i've read about people who own both doing their albums with the sx because it sounds better. you gotta realise that most of the cost is manufacturer and retailer markup

a $200 guitar with a few bucks spent on rewiring and everything can be a killer

ni'k 12.08.2009 01:25 PM

a few months ago i had to sell 6 pedals, 2 amps, 2 gtrs, an electric violin and my 4 track just to fuckin eat. horrible times.

one of these tele knock offs looks interesting.

id be embarrassed to own a tele that wasnt a knock off.
like - "look at that guy, he paid the full price for something just for the name".
i'd be embarrassed

wellcharge 12.08.2009 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
a few months ago i had to sell 6 pedals, 2 amps, 2 gtrs, an electric violin and my 4 track just to fuckin eat. horrible times.

one of these tele knock offs looks interesting.

id be embarrassed to own a tele that wasnt a knock off.
like - "look at that guy, he paid the full price for something just for the name".
i'd be embarrassed


i think embarassing is a bit much, but it's close. personally, i'd be proud to get a knock off of a guitar $700 more and then use the money i'd saved to turn the knock off into a complete dream.

StevOK 12.08.2009 03:57 PM

Cool. I could make my own Jazzblaster.

Jeremy 12.08.2009 05:32 PM

Here's some more knock-offs. These though are a little rarer (Out of print) and more expensive... But the more the better, right?

Giannini Super Sonic:

 


Giannini Gemini:

 


Various guitars http://kingofkays.com/japan.aspx.....

Alden Jazzcaster:

 


Dillion Jazzmaster:

 


Jay Turser Surfmaster:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8...fmasterwm9.jpg

I'd recommend checking Ebay.

~Jeremy~

infinitemusic 12.08.2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ni'k
a few months ago i had to sell 6 pedals, 2 amps, 2 gtrs, an electric violin and my 4 track just to fuckin eat. horrible times.

one of these tele knock offs looks interesting.

id be embarrassed to own a tele that wasnt a knock off.
like - "look at that guy, he paid the full price for something just for the name".
i'd be embarrassed


Hey, I got a fucking amazing tele on ebay for only 200 dollars. I don't care about the name, but it just fell into my hands.

I fucking love guitar knockoffs. In the 60s all these Japanese companies were making Jazzmaster copies, some of which are even weirder than the Jazzmaster (see this linkhttp://kingofkays.com/japan.aspx that Jeremy posted)

jon boy 12.08.2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy
Here's some more knock-offs. These though are a little rarer (Out of print) and more expensive... But the more the better, right?

Giannini Super Sonic:



 


Giannini Gemini:



 


Various guitars http://kingofkays.com/japan.aspx.....

Alden Jazzcaster:



 


Dillion Jazzmaster:



 


Jay Turser Surfmaster:
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8...fmasterwm9.jpg

I'd recommend checking Ebay.

~Jeremy~


some of those look pretty tastey i have to say!

Jeremy 12.09.2009 12:49 AM

Yeah, it's just a matter of how uncommon they pop up. :(

~Jeremy~

atsonicpark 12.09.2009 01:21 AM

I play a jagmaster which I got for $150. Love that fucking guitar.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.09.2009 01:37 AM

There's part of me that wants to get some rondomusic and xaviere guitars, because I've always sort of wanted a jazzmaster, among some other models. . .

but:
1. There are so many cool vintage guitars out there
2. I already have seven electrics, and two of them I barely play

although I don't have a baritone or a 12 string, and I've been thinking I could get a couple of those xavieres and convert them with necks from warmoth.com

Or maybe get an Agile Argus Baritone, and then also get an SX SJM and put a 12 string neck on it.

SuperCreep 12.09.2009 01:50 AM

damn. i was going to wait until the summer when i have a job to get a new electric (i was thinking of getting a gibson sg standard or a jazzmaster), but a lot of the guitars posted here look wonderful and well within my budget. are these guitars really that good? 'cos i'd like to get something like the jt40 and put my money toward other equipment if that's the case.

Jeremy 12.09.2009 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I play a jagmaster which I got for $150. Love that fucking guitar.


Which year is it? Reissue or a Vista? I have one and I agree, it's an amazing guitar, well worth the price (Or at least before Fender raised everything).

Quote:

are these guitars really that good? 'cos i'd like to get something like the jt40 and put my money toward other equipment if that's the case.

Unfortunately I've never played one, but from my searching around they apparently are excellent. Many also think the Jay Turser Surfmaster is pretty wonderful.

Buy one and let us know how it is. ;)

~Jeremy~

hevusa 12.09.2009 03:11 AM

still not convinced...
no one here has even played these guitars (that might be pieces of shit).

Jeremy 12.09.2009 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
still not convinced...
no one here has even played these guitars (that might be pieces of shit).


The pieces themselves are worth a bit. At the very least if the guitar isn't great (It's probably a fairly solid guitar), then you can always use the parts for something else. Like StevOK hinted at, you can always mod it.

~Jeremy~

hevusa 12.09.2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy
The pieces themselves are worth a bit. At the very least if the guitar isn't great (It's probably a fairly solid guitar), then you can always use the parts for something else. Like StevOK hinted at, you can always mod it.

~Jeremy~


My guess is the neck is such a POS that modding wouldn't even be worth it. Sometimes you get what you pay for in life... and I think that to be the case here as well.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.09.2009 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
still not convinced...
no one here has even played these guitars (that might be pieces of shit).


200 bucks for an Alder Jazzmaster

You know how much an Alder Jazzmaster body costs from Warmoth?

175 dollars. And that's without a paint job, pickguard, hardware, electronics, or anything. A pickguard costs 30 dollars.

You can get good replacements for all the other main parts (bridge, trem, pickups, neck, tuners) for about 400 dollars. . . if you like the neck, knock off 200. If you like the tuners, knock off about 30 bucks. If you like the bridge or trem, knock off about 45 bucks for either of those. IF you like the pickups, knock off about 80 bucks.

Anyway you look at it, you're getting a jazzmaster cheaper than any fender.

wellcharge 12.09.2009 03:18 PM

the best thing about the jm is the body(good sound,looks cool,comfy as fuck to hold) and the tremolo system, you can get both for $200 bucks here so....

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.09.2009 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
My guess is the neck is such a POS that modding wouldn't even be worth it. Sometimes you get what you pay for in life... and I think that to be the case here as well.


I've bought guitars anywhere from 75-200 dollars that could knock the socks off of some of the pricier guitars I've played.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.09.2009 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellcharge
the best thing about the jm is the body(good sound,looks cool,comfy as fuck to hold) and the tremolo system, you can get both for $200 bucks here so....


Exactly!

wellcharge 12.09.2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hevusa
My guess is the neck is such a POS that modding wouldn't even be worth it. Sometimes you get what you pay for in life... and I think that to be the case here as well.



with most companies what you pay for is largely a mark-up. and development, fender spends thousands designing a guitar and passes the cost on to you, the knock off companies just xerox fendergibsonwhatever's hard work and put jack shit into development of new ideas,and since you buy it direct there's no retailer mark up.
also they're probably made by children in china, that def. lowers the cost

hevusa 12.09.2009 07:46 PM

you guys should buy one and post a review here.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.09.2009 07:48 PM

I might, I'm not sure though. . . so many other things I want to spend my money on right now.

Jeremy 12.11.2009 04:15 PM

You know what I think companies should do that make their own Jazz/Jag imitations? Use crazy colors like the original models had, that over time Fender has discontinued. That would make knockoff versions stand out more I think.

~Jeremy~

wellcharge 12.11.2009 09:28 PM

i don't think i would personally ever buy a crazy color instrument

Jeremy 12.11.2009 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellcharge
i don't think i would personally ever buy a crazy color instrument


No, I'm talking about the old color schemes Jaguars and Jazzmasters used to have, like a dark blue body with a purple pickguard, something of that sort. I think it would make the imitations stand out.

~Jeremy~

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.11.2009 11:22 PM

What I really love is the Candy Apple Red Jags and Jazzies that also had red tortoise shell

like this:

 

Jeremy 12.11.2009 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
What I really love is the Candy Apple Red Jags and Jazzies that also had red tortoise shell

like this:


 


I agree, colors like that. My dream guitar is a red/red Jazzmaster, just like the colors above. One day I'll have it.

~Jeremy~

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.12.2009 12:01 AM

I'd personally like it better with a matching headstock and block inlays

like this (except without those ugly gold tuners):


 

Jeremy 12.12.2009 02:43 AM

I'd fall in love with it either way. One day, one day.....

~Jeremy~

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.12.2009 04:00 PM

some other stuff:

 

 

 

 



That last one is my favorite

StevOK 12.12.2009 04:33 PM

*fap fap fap fap*

SuperCreep 12.12.2009 04:58 PM

"post pictures of hot guitars."


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