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gmku 08.11.2006 04:14 PM

Favorite Stones album?
 
They really only existed from 1968 to 1972. Which studio album is your favorite?

Cantankerous 08.11.2006 04:17 PM

they really existed from 1965-1978, and THEN they started sucking.

gmku 08.11.2006 04:18 PM

Sure, technically speaking. But for me, they were only really the Stones I knew and loved when Mick Taylor was working for them.

Cantankerous 08.11.2006 04:19 PM

mick taylor can kiss my ass. he was fantastic as a musician but he doesn't exist to me as a person. he wasn't even with the band during Beggar's Banquet.

atari 2600 08.11.2006 04:21 PM

I really can't decide. One thing I can aver is that Exile on Main Street is the weakest of those four.

Sticky Fingers was a reinvention in a way & their first studio album that was really solid in many years.

Let it Bleed & Beggar's Banquet are probably my favorite two, but I also like Goat's Head Soup, Her Satanic Majesty's Request, Between the Buttons, & the early 12 x 5 a whole lot.

gmku 08.11.2006 04:21 PM

he was certainly in the shadow of mick and keith, but his contribution was tremendous.

Cantankerous 08.11.2006 04:23 PM

i picked beggar's banquet for the fuck of it because i love prodigal son and parachute woman and sympathy for the devil (and i figured no one else would pick it), but all of those albums are unspeakably great.

Toilet & Bowels 08.11.2006 04:25 PM

i don't like the stones at all, what do you think of that, dear?

Cantankerous 08.11.2006 04:26 PM

that's fine. i hate merzbow.

atari 2600 08.11.2006 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gmku
he was certainly in the shadow of mick and keith, but his contribution was tremendous.


total agreement

Taylor, Mick

rocks

Savage Clone 08.11.2006 04:36 PM

Brian Jones was the soul of the band to me.
After that, I am really uninterested.
Not a huge fan in any case, but the Jones period is the only one I really have any honest liking for.

atari 2600 08.11.2006 04:39 PM

People like to say that about Brian.
Brian is the person that was the nucleus of the early band, yes, but it was mainly because Brian had a record collection, whereas the others were much poorer & did not.

I don't listen to The Rolling Stones as much as I used to at all, but I'm not about to dump on them for spurious reasons because of that.
They did a lot of fantastic work.

Lee likes to warm-up with "Jumpin' Jack Flash" quite a bit. According to the recent Jonesy's Jukebox interview, Thurston likes to warm-up before a show by playing some Sex Pistols sometimes. He referenced an older pre-Bullocks Sex Pistols song that I forget the name of right now & told Steve Jones this using the words, "to this day, before a show I still like to warm-up with, etc."

The Stones' "Just Another Night" plays over the P.A. as Sonic Youth takes the stage in Amsterdam in '85. I used it as the first track of the last live picks cd.

In the 1980 Jann Wenner Rolling Stone interview of John Lennon he remarks that he was always close to the Stones because they came over to America when The Beatles did, but he considered The Beatles "more intellectual" & thought that Mick cheapened the Stones with his showiness. He also went on to say that The Beatles (which he also cuts down a great deal in the interview) were "in a whole other class than the Stones." I agree with him on that point. I agree with him on just about anything & everything.

Alex's Trip 08.11.2006 04:44 PM

I'm not really a fan of the Stones. But I do really like the song 2000 Man. So which ever album that is from. Is it Her Satanic Majesty's Request?

atari 2600 08.11.2006 04:45 PM

That's the one. The video for that was glam before glam rock & one of the first conceptual music videos ever made.

Alex's Trip 08.11.2006 04:47 PM

I did not know that. I'll look up the video. Thanks.

TheDom 08.11.2006 04:47 PM

Beggar's Banquet, no question.

I need to listen to Sticky Fingers more closely. My copy is all scratched up and sounds like shit.

Toilet & Bowels 08.11.2006 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
that's fine. i hate merzbow.



i see i'm going to have to thoroughly condition you in the ways of good taste.

PAULYBEE2656 08.11.2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
that's fine. i hate merzbow.


shame on you cantankarous!!!!:D

not a stones fan at all, probably let it bleed out of those choices

Cantankerous 08.11.2006 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
Lee likes to warm-up with "Jumpin' Jack Flash" quite a bit. According to the recent Jonesy's Jukebox interview, Thurston likes to warm-up before a show by playing some Sex Pistols sometimes. He referenced an older pre-Bullocks Sex Pistols song that I forget the name of right now & told Steve Jones this using the words, "to this day, before a show I still like to warm-up with, etc."


i'm sure the pistols song was one of the following:
roadrunner
satellite
no lip
i wanna be me


as for brian jones, i hear he was a real asshole (he beat anita) but he was a great musician.

Torn Curtain 08.12.2006 09:19 AM

Sticky Fingers is my fave by far (in my opinion it's their best record in terms of songwriting and guitar playing, and it's also their only one of which I like all the tracks, I find the other ones uneven).

porkmarras 08.12.2006 02:52 PM

I've never bought a Rolling Stones album in my entire life.I like possibly two or three songs of theirs.They haven't enriched my life in any shape or form.

k-krack 08.12.2006 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
I've never bought a Rolling Stones album in my entire life.I like possibly two or three songs of theirs.They haven't enriched my life in any shape or form.


ditto. i will say sticky fingersd though, just because andy warhol did the art (i haven't put a vote though)

Cantankerous 08.12.2006 03:02 PM

fuck andy warhol. he can kiss my fucking ass.

krastian 08.12.2006 04:21 PM

My all time favorite of theirs is Between the Buttons because I grew up listening to my parents copy of it along with all their Stones 45s......Yesterdays Papers....oh yeah.
 


Even though it's not an album, The London Years is my favorite Stones cd/collection or whatever. It was the first cd I ever got in 5th or 6th grade.
 



Out of these I'll break the tie and vote for Beggars even though I love them all.

hey alex 08.13.2006 11:00 PM

wow, baggars is kickin ass. I contributed to it's kickability.

I kinda like aftermath though... but only about half of it really. It has under my thumb which is fuckin a i say

Everyneurotic 08.13.2006 11:04 PM

i'm siding with the critics on this one.

exile, can't beat the swamped up production, my favorite country album...i can't see why people don't like it, it sounds more like what gram parsons would come up instead of the stones, i love how out of step it's from their discography.

Cantankerous 08.13.2006 11:09 PM

i love exile. mick did not do a very good job mixing it, though.

Everyneurotic 08.13.2006 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i love exile. mick did not do a very good job mixing it, though.


part of the charm, in my opinion.

i like difficult albums i guess, albums that have some fucked there.

Cantankerous 08.13.2006 11:13 PM

i like a rough mix, but it's not a very good rough mix.
beggar's banquet has some great rough mixing.

Everyneurotic 08.13.2006 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
i like a rough mix, but it's not a very good rough mix.
beggar's banquet has some great rough mixing.


that's the point, it's not just rough, it's badly done, the levels are all wrong and some of the takes used don't have the best sounds they got to tape. but it does capture that sense of isolation and being fucked up or in the brink of crapping out, but not in the typical way, just in the mix because the songs are both ace and a departure for the band. a combination of everything seems to be what makes it special.

it's very fucking atypical.

Cantankerous 08.13.2006 11:22 PM

you are just too intense.

Everyneurotic 08.13.2006 11:32 PM

i guess all i'm trying to say is that it's a great album with tunes you'd never think the stones would do (or take a sound as far as they did) in a very fucked up way which makes sense after listening to it.

for me at least.

Cantankerous 08.13.2006 11:35 PM

don't get me wrong, it's one of my favorite albums of all time. from an exclusively technical standpoint (which i am not concerned with to be honest with you, but just for the sake of mentioning it, there you have it) it's subpar, but in the big picture, i suppose it does make it all that much better. it wouldn't be the same album if it had been mixed differently.

hey look, i guess we agree.

Everyneurotic 08.13.2006 11:38 PM

yeah, that's what i'm saying.

badly recorded/mixed/mastered albums can turn out to be great pieces of music.

Cantankerous 08.13.2006 11:40 PM

i love badly recorded, really low-fi stuff. depending on the music it can either add to or detract from it, though.

Everyneurotic 08.13.2006 11:45 PM

exactly, most punk and black metal sound awesome with little fidelity or production values, but other stuff, like when there's a lot going on, it's just fucked.

TheMadcapLaughs 08.13.2006 11:49 PM

Dear Doctor is an awesome song, Keith's background vocals(which are hilleriously high pitched) like on many of the stones' songs really make the song.

Cantankerous 08.13.2006 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
exactly, most punk and black metal sound awesome with little fidelity or production values, but other stuff, like when there's a lot going on, it's just fucked.

things like devendra banhart as well, though i don't really know what you call that.

Everyneurotic 08.14.2006 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
things like devendra banhart as well, though i don't really know what you call that.


fuck yeah, i hate when it's acoustic guitar shit and it's super produced with lots of overdubs and gating and compression, it kills the directness of it.

i mean, listen to six organs of admittance.

probably one of the reasons i got so tired of devendra's cripple crow.

Cantankerous 08.14.2006 12:02 AM

i haven't got cripple crow, i only have the black babies.


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