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jon boy 09.01.2006 09:12 AM

worst period of music?
 
starting at the 50's.

porkmarras 09.01.2006 09:14 AM

I assume that it doesn't have to be a decade.

Inhuman 09.01.2006 09:21 AM

I voted 50's particularly for my lack of knowledge. 80's was one of the key decades in my opinion, but I'm sure the 50's introduced a lot of key icons.

porkmarras 09.01.2006 09:24 AM

Indeed Nefeli,that's why i've asked the question in the first place.How can anyone say that a whole decade is musically rubbish?That way of thinking is so last century.There has always been good music throughout decades.The fact that music charts were invented has inculcated in the listener the notion that what is sold is representative as a whole of the music output of any given period of time.

jon boy 09.01.2006 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
Indeed Nefeli,that's why i've asked the question in the first place.How can anyone say that a whole decade is musically rubbish?That way of thinking is so last century.There has always been good music throughout decades.The fact that music charts were invented has inculcated in the listener the notion that what is sold is representative as a whole of the music output of any given period.


yeah well i say 90's because of britpop.

porkmarras 09.01.2006 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
yeah well i say 90's because of britpop.

But then not everything was bad within the britpop genre(Pulp to name just one) and britpop wasnt the only thing that happened in music in the 90s even as it was happening.

nicfit 09.01.2006 09:30 AM

i'd go with all the unnecessary prog-stuff,not sure which decade to choose(some bands are still going,and nowadays some others rip off that genre) ,not all the bands were rubbish,but most of them (and most of that music) in my opinion is kinda worthless.

jon boy 09.01.2006 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
But then not everything was bad within the britpop genre(Pulp to name just one) and britpop wasnt the only thing that happened in music in the 90s even as it was happening.


britpop was all bad. pulp were awful.

this was better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxNyyZpP3GM

porkmarras 09.01.2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
britpop was all bad. pulp were awful.

this was better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxNyyZpP3GM

Heretic!

porkmarras 09.01.2006 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
britpop was all bad. pulp were awful.

this was better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxNyyZpP3GM

hahaha!That was priceless as so many priceless moments are on brass eye.Have you ever heard of David Hoyle?

pantophobia 09.01.2006 10:31 AM

the 00s

where there has always been great underground music every decade, only until this decade where there was no singular genre or trend in the mainstream that merits much remembrance

the closest being hip-hop, but there has been too much inconsistency of the best selling artists, for every Jay-Z, there was a Puffy or Master P, for every Outkast, there is a Black Eyed Peas, and for every Nas, Fat Joe and Jadakiss, there a thousand Chingys, Fabolous, Slim Thug, those others aren't worth mentioning

HaydenAsche 09.01.2006 10:43 AM

They were all terrible.

Danny Himself 09.01.2006 10:46 AM

The noughties suck balls.

king_buzzo 09.01.2006 11:37 AM

00s like someone above said

k-krack 09.01.2006 11:45 AM

I pick the fifties. because i honestly don't like blues and that. i like jazz... but the decades that follow suit me much better.

Iain 09.01.2006 11:49 AM

What about rock and roll. Bo Diddleys first album is great. And an abundance of Doo Wop is a bonus.

k-krack 09.01.2006 11:50 AM

What about rock'n'roll? Like i said, i honestly don't care for that stuff, it bores the crap right outta me.

king_buzzo 09.01.2006 11:51 AM

i hate the 80s hair metal

Iain 09.01.2006 11:51 AM

Fair enough.

Hip Priest 09.01.2006 12:11 PM

The 1990's, especiially the mid to late 90's were uninspiring to say the least - I don't think I've ever bought so little music as I did then. For a while I just thought maybe I was getting old, but the 00's have quashed that notion as they've been superb.

Hip Priest 09.01.2006 12:12 PM

The 1950's had much jazz, plus artists like Johnnie Ray, so I'm quite fond of them. Lots was happening in the 60's that helped to shape things and make pop/rock etc important for the first time - whether you like the stuff or not, it's a very imprtant period. The 70's were quite naff in parts, but there was plenty of innovation too. The 80's kicked very mucho ass indeedy in all areas. The 90's were just bland on the whole. The 00's have been excellent so far. Cool.

jon boy 09.01.2006 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porkmarras
Indeed Nefeli,that's why i've asked the question in the first place.How can anyone say that a whole decade is musically rubbish?That way of thinking is so last century.There has always been good music throughout decades.The fact that music charts were invented has inculcated in the listener the notion that what is sold is representative as a whole of the music output of any given period of time.


i understand that, but is there not one of them that when you think of it it makes you shudder?

Gulasch Noir 09.01.2006 01:18 PM

i voted 50ies, cause i listen least to music from the 50ies. Of course some decent music has been made in that decenium, but not as great as pE 90ies, which was the beginning point for bands like Bardo Pond, Charalambides or Windy & Carl.

k-krack 09.01.2006 01:22 PM

the 80's mainstream sucked the worst though.

LifeDistortion 09.01.2006 02:28 PM

Not sure what the naughties are. Anyways every decade had plenty to offer if you knew where to look, but if we are specifically talking about what was mainstream and popular then yes, the late ninties was pretty atrocious. If we are talking about Nu-Metal, if we are talking terrible rap-rock hybrid bands, that was a pretty sad period in mainstream rock music. It was such a diffrence from the early ninties, when "alternative" bands were popular. The "Seattle scene" tends to get the overwhelming attention, perhaps undeservedly so. I look back on it as there was so much variety in rock music, many bands were just sort of doing thier own thing, and for a short time everything was getting grouped into "Alternative" even bands that had been around for years like The Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Cure, Nine Inch Nails, and R.E.M.. None of these bands sound like one another, but they were all put under that "Alternative" tent. I think the variety of it was great, because for a short time all of those bands got attention, and sold well, but it lasted very briefly, and once Nu-Metal came along that got all the attention, we may look back on the early ninties with a bit of a cring, but it really wasn't that bad. The current state of mainstream radio is horrendeous, and there is not a decent music video channel right now. Even Mtv2 became just as bad as the first MTV, and Fuse is hardly the alternative to MTV. In fact the best music video channel is VHI Classics. There's something wrong with that.

Sheriff Rhys Chatham 09.01.2006 02:56 PM

I can't vote really, every decade has some really great music. If I had to vote for any decade it would be 1910's from what I know about.

GeneticKiss 09.01.2006 03:02 PM

Every decade has good music/bands:

50s: Bo Diddley, Link Wray, rock 'n' roll, rockabilly, Chuck Berry, Johnny Cash, Dick Dale

60s: The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Who, Jimi Hendrix, the Doors, the Velvet Underground, British invasion, psychedilia

70s: Eric Clapton, Pink Floyd, the Ramones, the Sex Pistols, Joy Division, Krautrock, funk

80s: SY (of course), Elvis Costello, R.E.M., Dinosaur Jr., the Replacements, the Jesus and Mary Chain, Devo, New Order, the B-52s, Megadeth, Metallica, Anthrax, Slayer, Black Flag, Killing Joke, the Smiths, the Cure, hardcore, "indie" rock, Aphex Twin, U2, Prince

90s: SY (duh), Nirvana, the Melvins, Pavement, Prodigy, Front 242, Foo Fighters, Pantera, Tool, Helmet, Shudder To Think, Swervedriver, Soundgarden, Blur, Suede, Oasis, Radiohead, Catherine Wheel, Placebo, Fugazi, Jeff Buckley, PJ Harvey, Aphex Twin, the Crystal Method, L7, Hum, the Smashing Pumpkins, Ministry, Silverchair, Bush, Nine Inch Nails (to a point), Madchester

00s: SY (even to this day), the Strokes, the Vines, My Vitriol, Cave In, Minus The Bear, the Streets, Gorillaz, the White Stripes (to a point), Deftones, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Queens Of The Stone Age (Rated R only), Coldplay, BT, A Perfect Circle

Just like every decade has crap:

50s: doo wop

60s: most hippie folk, girl groups, surf pop (Jan and Dean, the Surfaris)

70s: disco, most prog rock

80s: Blondie, Billy Joel, Nick Lowe, Madonna, John Mellencamp, Sting on his own, most new wave, AOR, new jack swing rap, hair metal

90s: boy bands, Candlebox, Hootie and the Blowfish, Limp Bizkit, Britney Spears, Bryan Adams, Goo Goo Dolls, Blues Traveller

00s: Hmm...where to start? "New supergroups" like Velvet Revolver and Audioslave, Franz Ferdinand, Evanescence, screamo, most nu metal, metalcore, disco revivalists, Wolf Eyes (there, I said it)...I voted this decade.

acousticrock87 09.01.2006 03:09 PM

Well I like jazz, psychadelic, "80's" (for lack of a better term), pop-rock, and I'm not too disappointed with current rock music. But I like very few bands from the 70s. Many of my least favorite bands are the big ones from that era - not to say they sucked, but I just don't like them. So I gotta go with that.

HaydenAsche 09.01.2006 03:46 PM

Good music:

50s - None

60s - None

70s - Less

80s - No Wave and Hardcore

90s - San Diego hardcore and Arab on Radar

00s - Endless supply of good tunes. Xiu Xiu, Wolf Eyes, Yellow Swans, Hair Police, etc.

Everything pre-80s is tied for worse.

Cantankerous 09.01.2006 04:07 PM

i was tempted to say 70s because there was so much horrible music released, but the bad certainly outweighed the good in the 80s.

HaydenAsche 09.01.2006 04:14 PM

The Now-Ties. Get it, drunky?

HaydenAsche 09.01.2006 04:16 PM

EXACTLY! I knew you'd get it, diesel.

HaydenAsche 09.01.2006 04:22 PM

Yeah. I didn't make it. Johnny Boy means that.

HaydenAsche 09.01.2006 04:27 PM

Morons.

Tokolosh 09.01.2006 05:59 PM

The 80's were pretty crap. The same can be said about the fashion trends of that period.

Society_In_My_Hole 09.01.2006 06:59 PM

I would go with the late 90's when all the boy bands were around. Everything else is okay but that was horrible, and the shit like limp bizquit and all the trl stuff. God that was horrible. The 50's were pretty good though, I like listening to cheesy pop songs from then. Anyway, definitly the late 90's.

Iain 09.01.2006 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneticKiss

00s: SY (even to this day), the Strokes, the Vines, My Vitriol, Cave In, Minus The Bear, the Streets, Gorillaz, the White Stripes (to a point), Deftones, Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Queens Of The Stone Age (Rated R only), Coldplay, BT, A Perfect Circle


Eh? Most of those bands are gash.

I think the 80's and 90's were pretty rank to be fair. I think I voted for the 90's in the end. But there's obviously great and shite stuff in every decade so it's sort of pointless arguing about it....even if that's what the first sentence of this post was doing essentially.

HaydenAsche 09.01.2006 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iain
Most of those bands are gash.


Absolutely.

Iain 09.01.2006 08:02 PM

The 80's had Breakout by Swing Out Sister which is one of my all time least favourite songs ever.

Toilet & Bowels 09.01.2006 08:08 PM

are we only talking pop here?


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