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static-harmony 12.01.2006 08:56 PM

I'm thinking of Becoming Christian again, Or
 
My old religion Catholic.

k-krack 12.01.2006 09:27 PM

I've never even considered religion. I don't need it, nor do I believe any of the shallow mistruths.

ithinkimissyou 12.01.2006 09:32 PM

never understood christianity, hinduism, buddhism, islam, sikhism, yourmaism, ilikepieism... or anything else to be honest...

however, to each their own. i'd never criticise someone for being religious, you can do whatever the fuck you want with your life once it doesnt fuck up someone elses.

Inhuman 12.01.2006 09:40 PM

I'm really interested in religeon and I'd like to be more involved with it. I was reading the Bhagavad-Gita for a little while, but their belief system is nasty for all I can say. I still find it informative, and it's interesting to compare how two different religeons can differ in many ways and have similaries in others. Religeon can be great all depending on the person. It created MANY MANY unnecessary wars, but on the contrary provides some moral guidelines and delight to many people's lives.

Prime example of the "Too much of anything is bad" rule.

finding nobody 12.01.2006 09:43 PM

I was raised Christian and I still am

k-krack 12.01.2006 09:45 PM

I'm a philosophy man. Using logic and reason, as opposed to blind faith in nothing.

ithinkimissyou 12.01.2006 09:46 PM

FN Your avatar reminds me of the work of wonderful Slug Signorino

k-krack 12.01.2006 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithinkimissyou
FN Your avatar reminds me of the work of wonderful Slug Signorino


It's King Bowser, silly goose! You don't know Super Mario??

Daycare Nation 12.01.2006 09:48 PM

God loves theists.

k-krack 12.01.2006 09:49 PM

God hates Daycare Nation, or at the very least, frowns upon his soul.

ithinkimissyou 12.01.2006 09:57 PM

http://www.slugsignorino.com/

static-harmony 12.01.2006 09:58 PM

Well I feel that religion has lost its way now, it is trying to hard to be involved in science not saying it has not done that in the past, but I feel I would not be those intrusive type of religious people. I still believe science is the best way to go than faith. Is this cohesive? what I am trying to say?

Daycare Nation 12.01.2006 09:58 PM

God thinks k-krack is an ass-crack.

finding nobody 12.01.2006 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ithinkimissyou

Good stuff!

ithinkimissyou 12.01.2006 10:10 PM

and of course www.straightdope.com

best site evar

static-harmony 12.01.2006 10:11 PM

Just discovered this artist.

 

k-krack 12.01.2006 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daycare Nation
God thinks k-krack is an ass-crack.


How very creative of you...:rolleyes:

k-krack 12.01.2006 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by static-harmony
Just discovered this artist.


 


Who is this?

static-harmony 12.01.2006 10:18 PM

Herbert Bayer.

k-krack 12.01.2006 10:28 PM


 


I like.

Massenvernichtungswaffen 12.02.2006 02:18 PM

religion is strange indeed. strange that we believe we were created by something exterior to the universe.... doesn't universe technically consist of everything in existence all at once... universe?
who created the creator? why would there be intelligence in a void outside of a dark starry vacuum? it makes no sense to me at all.
i'm more for quantum metaphysics.... we are all made up of the energies that exist everywhere. everywhere. all at once.
then again there's the question of evolution.
i can't believe there are people who deny such an observable and absolutely quantifiable and rational theory.

i don't dislike religion though. it gives hope to people. I like Islam a whole lot. It's so misunderstood on the world stage. They are very peaceful. I guess some of them are just sick of being fucked with by outside cultural assimilators like.. uhm.. white guys with giant tanks and machine guns that say they should be like us, because, in doing so, they are being "liberated"... anyhow that's digression at it's finest.

my family's protestant. i was practicing zen buddhism for a while, but I'm too razzy by nature to handle being all passive and quiet. maybe again when i'm fifty.

bla bla bla
wmd

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.02.2006 02:53 PM

why?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.02.2006 03:03 PM

Static-Harmony- remember this- your decision is yours to make. Don't let other people make it for you. Get what I'm saying?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.02.2006 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k-krack
I'm a philosophy man. Using logic and reason, as opposed to blind faith in nothing.


It isn't blind faith for everyone. Remember that before you insult other people's decisions and relegate them as illogical.

Danny Himself 12.02.2006 03:32 PM

I'm Roman Catholic and it works real well for me. I that if all else fails in my life, I will still have one true thing left. It's pretty good self-discipline too.

lithium 12.02.2006 03:41 PM

I'm christian (I think), well I believe in that, but no in catholic things...I actually dont believe in religions but I agree with some christian believes.

davenotdead 12.02.2006 11:08 PM

christian here as well....evolution makes no sense at all to me...and the world/universe has been operating on its own so well and for so long that a Creator makes sense...how does an immune system just happen? look around your room...did anything in your house just appear out of thin air? your house had a designer, and an architect...your toaster had a designer....etc...

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.02.2006 11:13 PM

http://www.ethiopianorthodox.org

Danny Himself 12.03.2006 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davenotdead
christian here as well....evolution makes no sense at all to me...and the world/universe has been operating on its own so well and for so long that a Creator makes sense...how does an immune system just happen? look around your room...did anything in your house just appear out of thin air? your house had a designer, and an architect...your toaster had a designer....etc...


That's a good way of putting it.

static-harmony 12.03.2006 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
Static-Harmony- remember this- your decision is yours to make. Don't let other people make it for you. Get what I'm saying?


The Reason I am thinking of becoming a christian again is cause most of the times I feel shitty, and I just need some hope, and I haven't found it in other religions, and maybe I will find it here in Christianity.

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.03.2006 07:34 AM

my friend was in a car accident tonight.
i am done with alcohol.
not exactly finding god... but, yeah.
changing for the better.

h8kurdt 12.03.2006 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cryptowonderdruginvogue
my friend was in a car accident tonight.
i am done with alcohol.
not exactly finding god... but, yeah.
changing for the better.


Do you actually belive that yourself? I'm not knocking you but you seem to like having a tipple of 50...

cryptowonderdruginvogue 12.03.2006 07:47 AM

yeah..
i could have been in that car
or i could have been driving the car
well, no, because i take cabs if im drunk.
im scared.
cant really fall asleep. its 7 am

davenotdead 12.03.2006 08:18 AM

the thought of hell is scary indeed....would explain why you can't sleep....also, it is perfectly natural for humans to be seeking answers and/or hope...a box in the ground is not so comforting...and really makes no sense at all if you believe you have a soul....for those curious, i'd recommend checking out a local church or ask any Christian friends/neighbors where they go...or pm me...

king_buzzo 12.03.2006 08:23 AM

i hate skinheads

strictlycommercial 12.03.2006 08:45 AM

I'm non-religious, but writing off religions, especially something like Catholicism with a long tradition of philosophic thought, as blind faith is a little reductive.

I also dislike the idea that a lot of atheists have that just because they disbelieve in God their thought is automatically free, which I personally think is utter bollocks.

Choosing a religion is something I could never do, it doesn't make sense to me really, but if you need it & believe it, go for it.

atari 2600 12.03.2006 11:35 AM

I'm thinking of Becoming Christian again,
Or

 



Actually, the "Or" is Part II for which I could locate no image.
I refuse to revisit the theatre of the absurd this time around by getting actively involved with this discussion, but the picture is more germane to topic than one may think.
(I may post some copy and pasting from previous "religion' threads).

Glice 12.03.2006 01:34 PM

Either/Or is an utterly fantastic book, among my favourites.

I'm also keeping shtum on this subject.

atari 2600 12.03.2006 02:19 PM

I've never seen it as one book. I read from the Hong's translations (Princeton Press editions) for most of Kierkegaard's works.

Yeah, this is a good bit of reading...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Massenvernichtungswaffen
religion is strange indeed. strange that we believe we were created by something exterior to the universe.... doesn't universe technically consist of everything in existence all at once... universe?
who created the creator? why would there be intelligence in a void outside of a dark starry vacuum? it makes no sense to me at all.
i'm more for quantum metaphysics.... we are all made up of the energies that exist everywhere. everywhere. all at once.
then again there's the question of evolution.
i can't believe there are people who deny such an observable and absolutely quantifiable and rational theory.

i don't dislike religion though. it gives hope to people. I like Islam a whole lot. It's so misunderstood on the world stage. They are very peaceful. I guess some of them are just sick of being fucked with by outside cultural assimilators like.. uhm.. white guys with giant tanks and machine guns that say they should be like us, because, in doing so, they are being "liberated"... anyhow that's digression at it's finest.

my family's protestant. i was practicing zen buddhism for a while, but I'm too razzy by nature to handle being all passive and quiet. maybe again when i'm fifty.

bla bla bla
wmd


Yet Einstein himself believed in God.

copy & paste #1
Let's go back to this whole label of "God," because as you shall see, I presuppose nothing. By naming God as a separate entity, we also do a disservice to the Truth. The earliest philosphers knew this to be the case & thus prohibited the naming of God. Language usually serves to only perpetuate the virus of confusion further. In our corporeal state, the dimension of time is absolutely & certainly a reality. But in Relativity, Time is just another dimension that is relative & is not absolute at all. What are the constants? There are none. The speed of light comes closest to being a true constant; it's absolutely constant in a vacuum of space. So what does this mean, then? It means that all matter in the universe is in constant flux & transformation, but in essence, everything always perfectly zeroes itself out no matter what. This defines our universe a continuum. Time & Eternity have a strange (seemingly paradoxical) relationship to each other. We can observe that the really large things in the universe are a bit more stabilized than everything else & follow precisely predictably ellipictal orbits & lifespans. On the other hand, we can attempt to observe the smallest of things & what we discover is beyond our wildest ideas of ever understanding because of the amount of kinesis & the overwhelming amounts of nuclear energy involved. Ponder that nearly all atoms of matter that everything is composed of is made up of overwhelmingly empty space. The closest we can (& probably will) ever get to being able to predict anything about these infintesimally small particles of matter is through what we already have, Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, which allows us to guess intelligently by using the shadows.

With our conscious waking minds, we perceive separations that aren't ultimately there. All matter is composed of slightly varying forms of the same field of energy. God is not "the Other". There is no such thing as "the Other" except in one's own mind. Your unconscious already knows All a priori if you can key that information into conscious activity through calming your restless fears & anxieties. From all this it should naturally be apparent that our incessantly clinged-to notion of a "Knower" & "the Known" is yet another false boundary that is reinforced through the conditioning of our seemingly ever-pervasive creaturely existence.

Glice 12.03.2006 02:25 PM

Just out of curiosity Atari, and by way of a divergence, I notice a deeply held distaste for Hegel in your posts, and a constant eschewing of the concept of 'other' - what do you make of Lacan? Personally, I find his double-bind ("C'est toi! - non - c'est l'autre, mais les autre est toi") pretty compelling, albeit superhumanly brainmelting.


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