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Grateful Dead
So................they are a band my parents loved for years and followed around the country going to all their shows, calling themselves Dead Heads.
I never got why they liked them, but i have been listening to 'Workingmans Dead' and i really like it. Ive also gotten into the Beatles more. Anyone here a Grateful Dead fan? If so whats your favourite album? |
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i've been jammin them since i was like 4 (my uncle was a dead head) and its all about the live stuff ive got over 60 gigs of just live Grateful Dead sets. i like their 67-69 and 72-79 live sets the best. but if i had to choose an album... it'd be The Grateful Dead - The Grateful Dead (1967) |
i will go get it from my mums collection and have a listen. i dont think she has any live stuff, i will check.
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Morning Dew
Good Morning Little School Girl Viola Lee Blues Cold Rain and Snow The Golden Road check those tracks out |
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she has no live grateful dead, this albusm prett great though, good recomendation!
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It's dead here today. There's not much going on at work.
![]() ![]() Aoxomoxoa (1969) is my favorite studio album. Workingman's Dead is probably my second pick. New Year's Eve '69 at the Boston Tea Party http://www.archive.org/search.php?qu...%20Outtakes%22 and Avalon Ballroom 10/12-13/68 are very good bootlegs from this period. Recently, a studio outtakes boot has been around with a short Dark Star on it. They are, of course, really a live band primarily. Live Dead is a good (officially released) live album to start with...Reckoning or Europe '72 would be next, although there are so many great bootlegs too (I like the '72 tour a good bit...the 5/16/72 Luxembourg radio show is a must!). I like the early stuff too (much can be found on the officially released Dawn of the Dead '66 set). |
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that little kid at the front is Courtney Love isnt it? |
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Correctomundo! There once was a site called livedead, Now you can just go here instead... http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=%28collection%3AGratefulDead%20OR %20mediatype%3AGratefulDead%29%20AND%20-mediatype%3Acollection&sort=%2Fmetadata%2Fdate |
been a deadhead since i was a youngin'. never got to see them, but still listen to them very avidly. anything between '66 and '77 is your best bet. '78 is still decent, but '66 to '77 they were a force to be reckon with. '66 to '71 is heavy pyschadelic blues shit, '69 being a fucker of a year, esp march. check out live at fillmore '69 that came out a couple years back. some heavy, heavy shit spread over 3 discs (find the bonus 4th disc for some more ear treats). people diss the dead until they hear everything past touch of grey. people are ignorant because of the hippie association but the dead were the best of the best for a long time. even lee ranaldo is a huge fan and wrote a nice piece on jerry when he passed away and it was published in rolling stone
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![]() (Gypsy is wearing a shaggy blonde wig & tie dye dress; Mike is wearing a tie dye shirt, head band & holds a guitar; Tom has a kerchief head band and has a small guitar strapped on; Crow has a shaggy grey beard & hair, small round glasses with colored lenses ala' Jerry Garcia)... Gypsy: At Alpine Valley, they did "Love Light" into "Sugaree" into "Dark Star" into "Love Light" into "Sugaree" into "Love Light" into... Mike: Can anyone tell me why we're dressed like this, again? Tom: Mike, remember the name of the movie is THE DEAD TALK BACK. We're The Dead! Get it?!? Gypsy: And then the moon came out & it was like Jerry WILLED it!!! Crow: C'mon, Mike! Freak, freaky, freely dude!!! Mike: (Hesitantly) Alright...Freak...Freaky...Freely? (Music begins) (Mike sings real twangy vocals to Grateful Dead-like music) Been riding on that Cosmic Freight Train feeling bad... And don't you come around her anymore! (To Crow) Take it! (Crow begins a LONG guitar solo. Mike and the other bots stand around patiently. Mike smiles, politely as the solo drags on...At one point Mike tries sing another line from the song, but is drowned out by Crow's continuing guitar solo. Mike and other Bots wait...and wait... and wait...and wait...Crow continues...Mike takes off his headband and wipes at his eyes with it. Gypsy moos, nervously. Mike is looking REAL bored by about now...The Transmission Light from Deep 13 blinks...Cut to Deep 13...Frank and Dr. Forrester are asleep standing up, leaning against each other. Frank starts sucking his thumb, contentedly. Cut back to the Satellite of Love. Crow is STILL playing. Mike & Tom are playing a game of chess, while Gypsy whispers moves into Mike's ear. Cut to exterior of the Satellite. Earth hangs serenely in the background. The entire cosmos is filled with Crow's droning guitar solo. Cut back to interior of Satellite. Everyone is back to normal, except Crow who is still dressed as Garcia and still plucking away at his guitar. Gypsy is reading "War and Peace" out loud to herself. Tom is playing solitaire. Mike is folding tiny, little Bot clothes. Crow continues! Movie Sign is flashed...) Tom: Ha!!! Thank GOD!!! Gypsy: Movie Sign? Mike: Oh, we got Movie Sign! (Mike and other Bots scatter, but Crow keeps playing his solo. Door sequence starts. Cut back to the counter where Crow is still playing his guitar solo. Mike runs in...) Crow!!! We got Movie Sign!!! (Crow ignores him and keeps playing...Mike finally grabs Crow by the head-piece & forcibly drags him off)... While entering the theater, Crow loses his wig... Crow: Hey! My Jerry hair! Next host segment, Crow is still dressed like Garcia, and still jamming the same song.... Mike: Hey, Cap'n Trips! Do you want to give it a rest? Crow: Almost done Mikey! http://www.archive.org/details/GratefulDead EPISODE #203: The short of "The Phantom Creeps" has a few Dead comments: Lugosi & his stooge are escaping, and pick up (plot convienence) a hobo hitchhiking who has long hair and a beard. JOEL: "Are you guys going to that Dead concert? Yeah? Did you hear Pigpen died?" SERVO & CROW: "Pigpen's dead? Oh no!" SERVO: "If Pigpen's died, I don't want to live either." Soon after, the car plunges over a cliff; JOEL: "What A Long Strange Trip It's Been." Lugosi decides to use the bum's body as a ringer for him, so... His wife is asked to identify it, and says: "I'll go, I must know..." JOEL: "If Pigpen is still alive." EPISODE #206: During the film "The Ring Of Terror," an autopsy is being done and a skeleton hanging near a wall says... SERVO: "How's it goin' so far? I gotta eat soon. I've got a Grateful Dead concert to go to." Later, as the elderly "hero" creeps through a cemetary for a fraternity prank... JOEL: "Everyone's buried here: Jim Morrrison, the Unknown Soldier, the Dead..." EPISODE #208: During the film "Lost Continent" Caesar Romero is going through some records to find somtething new for him to further embarass himself with the girl... SERVO: "Hey look! The Dead, Mel Torme, here's one of mine. Huh?" EPISODE #301: During the opening host segment, Joel is asking the 'bots if they could change their names, what would their new name be: SERVO: "Well, personally, I've always been partial to 'Sugar Magnolia.'" During the film "Cave Dwellers" the Scientist is showing his daughter some shiny object that is supposed to have mythical powers. SERVO: "A rearview mirror. Stronger Than Dirt!" EPISODE #304: During the film "Gamera vs. Barugon" SERVO: "So if Gamera craves fire, what does Barugon crave?" CROW: "Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia, natch." EPISODE #306: A few Dead related comments during the film "Time Of The Apes": A Two & A half Ton Truck drives by with cheesy psychedelic paint.... Joel: "Hey it's Ken Kesey & The Merry Pranksters!" A scene of lights flashing at different times elicit the following comments: JOEL: "Suddenly we're at the Fillmore." SERVO: "Hey, it's a Joshua Light Show." |
Live/Dead rules. TheDom got me into that one. I'm going to get around to buyin some of their stuff in Spring when I get my job back
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amen man. 69 is my favorite so far, but I can't really call myself an expert because I haven't even ventured into anything past '77. I'm with atari on Aoxomoxoa being the best studio one. Anthem Of The Sun would be my next pick. If you want a good live album to start with, get Live/Dead. In fact, that is all you really have to get because it is so great. |
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speaking of the dead, I just got my Ratdogg tickets for February 13! gonna skank and twirl it up!
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They were somewhat ruined for me over time by their audience, but I still appreciate them as a good psychedelic improvisational rock band. The people that tried to see them as a religion really grate on one's nerves though. I saw three shows in the '90s, and they were really good live.
I'd agree with Atari that Aoxomoxoa is one of their best studio albums. |
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I beg to differ, Anthem to the Sun is one of the best studio albums of ANY band EVER. |
I saw The Dead at bonnaroo in 2003. I had listened to some songs before and liked some, but the image of the band kind of ruined my perception of them. Even though they aren't the same band without JG, seeing them live turned me on to them. I'm a fan.
I haven't bought any new albums in a while... by any band. Maybe it's time for me to pick up some Dead stuff. |
The great thing with the Grateful Dead was they basically started the whole "lets invite our audience to tape our shows and share them with friends" way of life. From this you can find countless great shows online for free.
If yr looking for live albums to buy they're many. Dick's Picks volume 1-30something at this point is a great point of reference. Dick was their archivist and released shows he thought were important. A real wild record of there's is Infared Roses which came out in the 90's. Very atmospheric album which takes instrumental sections from live shows and makes this new thing altogether. ![]() p.s. from the Lollapalooza Tour Diaries Circa Aug 10 1995 from Mr. Lee Ranaldo He's Gone, in August A few words about Garcia here: Although I haven't followed the Dead's career much this last decade, I do admit to spending much time during the seventies immersed in their music/world view, with no regrets. I have always maintained that SY shared the common ground of true interest in musical extrapolation with them, and that is one of the facets of their trip that I admired most - the willingness to get into 'unexplored" territory of the music/sound realm on a nightly basis. Jerry was a key instigator of this, of course, for the Dead, and I think it is one of the factors that most endeared him to legions of fans - his relishing the chance to get real, real gone into pure soundscapes at the shows, each member playing off the others, to see where it could take them. I spent a lot of time listening to the Dead in my youth, saw countless shows, Jerry's various solo ensembles, etc. Some of those shows still stand out as among the best I've attended, anywhere, ever. No bullshitting at their shows, no platform heels or mega light shows to mask the fact that this was just a group of ordinary mortals up there doing the best they could. Many nights they took us far over the rainbow with them. Those guys (and gal) from The Haight covered a lot of musical turf,a lot of history - and left plenty of avenues yet to be mined. It's a sad legacy that the man known as 'Captain Trips' was brought down by the very substances that he once reveled in, and exalted. One who meant so much to so many people as a 'spiritual guide', pointing signposts to new space, as it were, couldn't control his own appetite (in more ways than one) for those very substances that he proclaimed as sacraments. I take comfort in the fact that he passed on peacefully, and left a long rich legacy behind, but I would give anything to know what really was going on in his life these last years, as one with an intimate knowledge of life on the road and the trips it puts ya thru. Was he happy with his position? Were drugs a way in, or a way out? Maybe they were just a too-comfortable old pillow, too much the public facade of the man, the 'Jerry' mask which the world associated with him, and which he could not remove. In any case, I tip my hat to you tonight, Jerry - did you hear us deadicate 2 numbers to you last night, under the full Texas moon.? I couldn't believe that Melissa from Hole mentioned him too, from the stage,after Courtney went on about how Kurdt was up there in that moon, and Hendrix, etc. Melissa chimed in with "and Jerry Garcia too" and I was so pleased to hear her say it; thoughtful and centered amidst the chaos. Fare thee well Garcia; fare the well, my only true one. Gone to leave this brokedown palace, on hands and knees, to roll on home. He's gone in August, and nothin's gonna bring him back. |
I'm a so-so Gratefule Dead fan. They really did do some great work. Most notably Workingman's Dead, American Beauty and Anthem of the Sun. But mostly they were just a bunch of lazy, stoned-out hippies who took waaaaaaaayyyyy too many drugs and just dicked around on guitars for an hour for one song and charged top dollar for it. They are easily one of the most overrated bands in history. They were fairly good musicians from 1968-1975, but after that, they were just pathetic and repetitive.
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It's just that simple.
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wow. over-rated? by who? to be over-rated people OTHER then your fan base have to praise you, and generally speaking, no body but dead heads have ever heard any live dead to begin with. |
I've heard Live Dead. Some of the songs they played were really good, some of my favorites by them. But they also started just jamming way too long on some songs and it just became disinteresting. Im not saying they are bad musicians. I just think that the drugs and their own lack of good musical judgement affected their playing and decision making.
I mean come on, back when they were the Warlocks, they used to take a shit load of lsd before shows and then be so high they couldn't play and they just walked away from the shows without playing a note. |
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but the audience was so out of it as well that it didn't matter. |
It may not have mattered so much if the band performed poorly. I think it matters if the band never plays at all.
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Were they any good live after Jerry died?
Currently listening to and loving American Beauty. |
Ive seen Grateful Dead one time, back in 1988, I wasnt a big fan I went out of curiosity more than anything else. I knew all the radio singles etc but not a person deep into it at all.
Then I went to Bonnaroo last year, Phil Lesh and Friends closed the festival, I went in with absolutely no expectations. It was beautiful. Month later I caught Bob Weir and Ratdog at Radio City. It hooked me it was beatiful powerful show, the songs speak for themselves. By now the music and the scene, it really captured my imagination- the people in the scene are the nicest people you will ever meet, period. Last month I went the American Beauty Project, i wrote this at the time: in case you werent aware this past weekend we had a really great event in NYC- back to back nights tribute to Grateful Dead, on saturday we got the complete "Workingmans Dead" album, followed by "American Beauty" on sunday, Both albums were covered in entirety, as well as assorted instrumental jams in between some songs, each song got an intro and a short interview with the artist by the host John Schaefer whos a local dj here. Saturday was absolutely packed, there were over 2000 people inside, if you know the wintergarden the steps were full and people lined the mezzanine upstairs, they actually had to post security at the doors who would not allow any more people in after a certain point, too bad for the late comers (someone said of 10 years that free events were held there, this was the largest crowd ever.) You know the album- its a classic kicking off with one of my personal favorites "Uncle John's Band". This was not a typical Dead show in that for the most part people sat and listened(thanks to security guards who made sure isles were clear), but by the last song "Casey Jones" everyone was up and dancing. The encore was "Knockin on Heavens Door" the Dylan tune with all musicians on stage. Sunday the crowd was slightly smaller I think, perhaps due to the football playoffs. Still, the steps and floor was packed, though mezzanine was clear. Once again I got some of my all time favorites "Friend of a Devil" "Truckin"- done by Jen Chapin. The musical highlights though was "Till the Morning Comes" by Espers, that is one band worth checking out. Also one of the great between song jams has to be mentioned- Sex Mob, a jazz trio, drums and 2 trumpets, it was just awesome. The whole thing closed out with another encore of a song I did not recognize, however I recorded a bit of it might post later. both nights the shows were around 2 hours 30 minutes long, the crowd was great as usual, there is really no better people you will ever meet than those who go see the Dead, it just made everyone realize how much we miss Jerry and the rest of the band. The show was being recorded by at least 4 cameramen, stationary as well as people on stage, so lets hope this will show up on video or tv, it had that PBS feel to it... anyway, thats it, if you dont know the Dead go buy these two albums, and go see Bob Weir and Rat Dog, they are on tour this spring. forgot the links: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...ID=113 806099 espers, : psych folk? best band on 2 nights imo: http://www.myspace.com/espers sex mob- great jazz stuff: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...did=944 05388 |
My dad recently sent me
![]() "i had to move, really had to move" "Playing, playing in the band, daybreak, daybreak on the land" Great songs! |
true story: about 10 years ago (probably a little more than that), nobody in the family had seen or heard from my uncle for about a year or so. then the dead rolled through town and we saw him on the news.
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^ he he he he kool.
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haha that is awesome
what exactly did he do? (if you don't mind telling) |
Grateful Dead are another of those bands that just go right over my head. I've never been able to hear anything in them besides some Eagles with a few jazzed-up over-long solos.
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Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978
![]() Good things come to those who wait! First, it took 30 years to produce this ultra-cool 2CD/DVD set from the Dead’s legendary September 1978 run at the Sound & Light Theater, outside Cairo, nestled in the dunes just a short mummy-walk from the Great Pyramid and the mysterious Sphinx. Then, Dead Heads had to endure the long, restless weeks between the announcement of the release and when they could actually order it. Well, ring them bells, because the wait is over! Dead.net is NOW accepting orders for this beautiful and historic package, Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978, which includes two exceptional music CDs and a DVD with over 95 minutes of concert footage from the Egypt shows (plus an impressionistic “Vacation Tapes” mini-documentary that shows the band and Dead family at play). Much has been written about this storied adventure: About the band’s long-standing desire to play in “places of power,” as Phil put it years ago… The incredible logistical gymnastics necessary to get permission for this strangest of American rock bands to bring their peculiar alchemy to the cradle of the ancient world… The huge, scattered caravan of crazies that descended on Cairo from the U.S. and Europe, drawn to the desert by some irresistible force… The sheer magnitude of shipping in tons of sound equipment, setting up in 110-degree heat, maxing out the local power grid, trying to turn the King’s Chamber in the Great Pyramid into an echo chamber (alas, Osiris would have none of that!)… The wondrous interplay at each of the three concerts between Nubian drummers and singers and the Grateful Dead… The miraculous final show, during a total lunar eclipse… The synchronicity of that last show and the signing of a peace treaty between Egypt and Israel… Magical horse and camel rides under the desert moon…Trips up and down the Nile… High adventure at every turn! The three Egypt concerts—September 14, 15, 16, 1978—were captured on a 24-track tape recorder with an eye towards putting out a live album to help defray the (considerable) cost of the expedition. When the Dead got home, however, they discovered that the tapes of all of the first night and part of the second were not useable because of technical problems. Then the band got wrapped up in finishing their Shakedown Street album (begun before the Egypt venture), and soon the notion of putting out the Egypt album lost its momentum. But just as Howard Carter and all those other explorers in the ’20s and ’30s couldn’t stay away from the tombs in the Valley of the Kings, the Dead weren’t about to let those Egypt multitracks stay buried by the sands of time. Next thing you know there’s a phone call to ace GD mixer Jeffrey Norman and he and vaultkeeper David Lemieux discover that despite the problems with the first night’s tapes, there’s still lots of great material available from nights two and three, including: a dynamite “Shakedown Street” (just the second live version ever), “Truckin’,” an exquisite “Stella Blue,” “Eyes of the World,” fresh takes on then-new songs such as “Stagger Lee” and “I Need A Miracle,” and the hypnotic Egyptian tune called “Ollin Arageed” that features Hamza El Din and other percussionists, who are then joined by the Dead for a jam into “Fire on the Mountain.” Wow! And the concert video, though rough around the edges in places, is quite a revelation as well. Not only does the DVD include many of the best tunes on the CDs—you’ll dig seeing Jerry do some pretty energetic thrashing here and there—it contains two songs not on disc—“Bertha” and “Good Lovin’.” The concert material has been mixed in both stereo and surround sound, with two listening options: DTS 5.1 and PCM Stereo. The beautifully designed booklet (with cover inspired by the late, great Alton Kelley’s Egypt 1978 tour poster) contains a revealing essay by longtime Ice Nine Publishing chief (and Egypt trip co-organizer) Alan Trist, and many rare photos. All that’s missing is sand, the smell of camels and some “hubbly-bubbly”! So don’t delay! Order Rocking the Cradle: Grateful Dead, Egypt 1978 today by going |
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