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greedrex 10.03.2008 10:20 AM

looking for good hip hop
 
hello dudes
i want to listen to some good hip hop that would be somehow akin to Cannibal Ox. I want my hip hop to be pretty threatening and serious.
You can suggest one/two/three LPs at a time as i won't be able to check out millions of acts (that one was for Adam and the rocket scientists crew...).
You can also tell me more about Cannibal Ox side projects and solo stuff. i'm a total noob.
Thank you very much for yr attention.
I want me some good hip hop, nigga.
biatch.
GO!

greedrex 10.03.2008 10:23 AM

protip: i love futuristic samples.

lechaoscestmoi 10.03.2008 10:23 AM

i ain't no fucking rocket scientist, is that what yr saying?!

lechaoscestmoi 10.03.2008 10:24 AM

good hip hop = tha carter 3

greedrex 10.03.2008 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lechaoscestmoi
i ain't no fucking rocket scientist, is that what yr saying?!

have we met before???

SYRFox 10.03.2008 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
protip: i love futuristic samples.

Deltron 3030

Check Dizzee Rascal, he's my favorite MC - the one that introduced me to hip hop actually

nicfit 10.03.2008 10:33 AM

El-P :rolleyes:

noisereductions 10.03.2008 10:35 AM

As stated above, you'd dig Deltron 3030 for sure.

And El-P's FANTASTIC DAMAGE (he produced CanOx).

And um... how about the first Dr. Octagon album?

greedrex 10.03.2008 10:36 AM

gotta check Deltron
I know and own some E-LP ; good stuff, thx Nic

greedrex 10.03.2008 10:37 AM

yeah i also own the first Octagon CD...

Are futuristic samples that rare in hip hop?

jimbrim 10.03.2008 10:37 AM

If you're looking for something threatening check out Immortal Technique, Mobb Deep, El-P and Kool Keith.

Also, a lot of grime is serious and threatening, but it depends if grime is your thing.

greedrex 10.03.2008 10:40 AM

dunno what you mean by grime..
duh

SYRFox 10.03.2008 10:42 AM

Grime RULES. Check Dizzee Rascal for sure! He rules.

By the way, jim: TARAKO!

greedrex 10.03.2008 10:47 AM

from Deltron myspace:
Band Members
Deltron Zero The Cantankerous Captain Aptos Skiznoid The Boy Wonder



huh?
i didn't know she was an MC

nicfit 10.03.2008 10:50 AM

she also has a whole band with her name.

StevOK 10.03.2008 10:50 AM

J Dilla, Louis Logic, and Saul Williams are the only hip-hop/rap artists that I have branched out and liked. Any more suggestions?

SYRFox 10.03.2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
from Deltron myspace:
Band Members
Deltron Zero The Cantankerous Captain Aptos Skiznoid The Boy Wonder



huh?
i didn't know she was an MC

People call them the Mark E Smith of hip hop
"Yo y'all are a buncha twats look at my hipness
Trust me I'm a cooler than y'all bitches"

jimbrim 10.03.2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SYRFox

By the way, jim: TARAKO!


Haha, I didn't know it was called Tarako untill I googled it. I thought you were recommending a grime MC or something!

SYRFox 10.03.2008 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
Haha, I didn't know it was called Tarako untill I googled it. I thought you were recommending a grime MC or something!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UeunJLzilU

SYRFox 10.03.2008 10:55 AM

Seriously, greedrex, check the album Showtime by Dizzee Rascal like, right now. It's soooo good

jimbrim 10.03.2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevOK
J Dilla, Louis Logic, and Saul Williams are the only hip-hop/rap artists that I have branched out and liked. Any more suggestions?


Good call on Saul Williams.
If you like J Dilla, listen to Madlib and MF Doom, they're not very threatening though.

jimbrim 10.03.2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SYRFox


Christ!

al shabbray 10.03.2008 11:00 AM

best labels:

Anticon
Def Jux

I prefer the overall sound astetics of anticon, experimental, dreamy, artsy and yes, I just love it, artists regarding anticon: clouddead (pure bliss, really) themselves, Odd Nosdam (some of the best beat driven instrumentals, really fuzzy and dreamy)

Def Jux: in general el-p, mr lif, aesop rock (!!!) etc.

I really like the grime scene in england, which is more ruff, more testosten, more old school, with futuristic sounds: dizzee rascal (especially his debut), wiley (the old stuff is wayyyyy better I think) and a bunch of other guys.

I hope this helped a bit, I havne tread the other posts before, so sorry for mentioning twice

o'connor 10.03.2008 11:00 AM

you have to listen to MF DOOM. it's a rule. also Madlib and his little brother Oh No, he used alot of old video game samples that sound futuristic. f'sho.

o'connor 10.03.2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
Good call on Saul Williams.
If you like J Dilla, listen to Madlib and MF Doom, they're not very threatening though.


damn ya'll type fast. and it's MF DOOM, not MF Doom.

"remember all caps when you spell the man name" :)

al shabbray 10.03.2008 11:03 AM

oh yes mf doom I forgot, hes is awesome.
I like also the whole escape artists rooster. I am collabing with one of them, hes called Xczircles, I really like his voice (but there are some haters too :))
got two or three tracks with him in my myspace player, so maybe you like it.
http://www.myspace.com/catsleeph
sorry for advertising, hrhrhr

greedrex 10.03.2008 11:09 AM

yeah , what about aesop rock?
what's his must have piece of work?

same question for MFdoom

jimbrim 10.03.2008 11:10 AM

MF Doom albums - check out Operation: Doomsday and MM..FOOD

greedrex 10.03.2008 11:12 AM

i know all there's to know about Anticon yes.
thx SYRfox will check out the Dizzee LP!

al shabbray 10.03.2008 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
yeah , what about aesop rock?
what's his must have piece of work?

same question for MFdoom


Aesop Rock: Labour days
(but I like bazooka tooth alot too)

MF DOOM: not quite sure about

noisereductions 10.03.2008 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by o'connor

"remember all caps when you spell the man name" :)



yr getting repped for that.

NWRA 10.03.2008 11:19 AM

I could type a long list of hiphop albums that I love but my very favourite is Fear Of A Black Planet by Public Enemy. It's not as dated as It Takes A Nation Of Millions (which has the reputation as the best PE album) and should appeal to any Sonic Youth fan: collages of noise, made from samples of guitar solos, funk records, electro synths, the sound of a chainsaw, etc, all mashed together in a melodic way, with an angry (Chuck D) or insane (Flavor Flav) guy shouting over the top. It's awesome.

noisereductions 10.03.2008 11:21 AM

Yes, Aesop's LABOR DAYS is the MUST have album in his discography.

Also, as a side note... I have a HUGE hip hop collection, but am only partially certain that I know what you mean by "futuristic samples." If you could elaborate on that, I'd be able to recomend a lot more shiz.

al shabbray 10.03.2008 11:22 AM

when it comes to some fresh new stuff. I started to dig the Cool Kids. nice rough minimalistic beats, and a really cool laid back style of vocals.
its not the best, and blabla but its kinda like N.E.R.D. in cool, less bling bling and just better, in my opinion

al shabbray 10.03.2008 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
Yes, Aesop's LABOR DAYS is the MUST have album in his discography.

Also, as a side note... I have a HUGE hip hop collection, but am only partially certain that I know what you mean by "futuristic samples." If you could elaborate on that, I'd be able to recomend a lot more shiz.


I thought of grimey london stuff when thinkin bout futuristic samples.

for that matter if you searching for instrumentals or part-time-instrumental artists I highly recommend Prefuse 73 and Flying Lotus
both on warp records

nicfit 10.03.2008 11:29 AM

Robert Logan, then.

noisereductions 10.03.2008 11:29 AM

The first 2 Prefuse albums are top notch.

greedrex 10.03.2008 11:31 AM

you know, futuristic as spooky big layers of synth maybe mixed with other samples, as in a few tracks off "The Cold Vein".....

NWRA 10.03.2008 11:32 AM

I went off hiphop for a long time because there seemed to be a split in the early 2000s between glittery commercial hiphop, which made me feel like a moron for listening to it, and the pseudo-underground hiphop which was built on lame jazz-samples and people like Mos Def bragging about how much of an intellectual/poet they are (without actually saying anything intellectual or poetic). I'm trying to get into it again but I'm not sure where to start, or if it's really changed...

I like Clouddead's first album and Alias' The Other Side Of The Looking Glass. The whole Anticon thing seems like a minefield to me... there's some great stuff and a lot of rush-released horseshit.

jimbrim 10.03.2008 11:32 AM

I love the collaboration Prefuse 73 did with The Books.


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