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SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.03.2008 09:32 PM

Do you really exist?
 
Prove it.



















 

GeneticKiss 12.03.2008 09:40 PM

I think, therefore I am.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.03.2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
I think, therefore I am.


that doesn't prove anything. You can think things that clearly are not.

GeneticKiss 12.03.2008 09:57 PM

What do you want, for me to come to your house or something?

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 12.03.2008 10:05 PM

I can't prove it to anyone but myself

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.03.2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
What do you want, for me to come to your house or something?


only if you have any really good Dead bootlegs to share with me.. but yr missing the point.

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead
I can't prove it to anyone but myself


much more on target but, no.

let me rephrase the question.

"Can you prove to yourself that you, or anyone, or anything for that matter, truly exist?"

Dead-Air 12.03.2008 10:08 PM

I've got the bills and the bad credit rating to prove it.

I keep hoping somebody will steal my identity, but I think the curse that goes with it is common knowledge on the black market.

GeneticKiss 12.03.2008 10:18 PM

If you want proof, click on the link in my sig...most of the lead guitar playing on those songs is me. I have been recorded, so I am immortal so long as those recordings are heard.

Dead-Air 12.03.2008 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
If you want proof, click on the link in my sig...most of the lead guitar playing on those songs is me. I have been recorded, so I am immortal so long as those recordings are heard.


So you're counting on Rupert Murdoch to keep you real? ;)

GeneticKiss 12.03.2008 10:20 PM

...I don't get it...

EDIT: Apparently the MySpace is gone...updates to come if anyone's interested.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.03.2008 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
If you want proof, click on the link in my sig...most of the lead guitar playing on those songs is me. I have been recorded, so I am immortal so long as those recordings are heard.


not necessarily. How do you know for sure that anyone else actually hears what you hear in these recordings? How can you be sure anyone else even exists to listen to them, and are not an elaborate work of your imagination or some fiendish trickster?

(nice subliminal self-promoting by the way, I usually just go with, "Shameless self promotion, listen please. click here for music.")

GeneticKiss 12.03.2008 10:32 PM

I suppose I don't have a way to verify any of that, but can you prove you exist?

✌➬ 12.03.2008 10:34 PM

No, neither do you. You are the imagination of a three year old.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.03.2008 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ✌➬
No, neither do you. You are the imagination of a three year old.



 


that would be a trip!
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneticKiss
I suppose I don't have a way to verify any of that, but can you prove you exist?


nope.. I was hoping y'all could help me out. The intelligent responses I get on this board never cease to surprise and amaze me, so I though I would through this one out there, maybe some folks have more experience with this topic, I myself spend too much time reading piles of Ethiopian history books and standing in prayer, aside from crying that the sky is falling all the damned time.

so again,

can anyone prove if anyone actually exists?

✌➬ 12.03.2008 10:42 PM

I really don't get what you are trying to ask. If you want a serious answer, we are all particles of something. We exist because we breathe, eat, live everyday of our lives.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 12.03.2008 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ✌➬
I really don't get what you are trying to ask. If you want a serious answer, we are all particles of something. We exist because we breathe, eat, live everyday of our lives.

that is serious but not quite to the point.

see, yes, we may all seem to be particles of something, but what is the essence of this? Can you know if it is real? Are not dreams or hallucinations potent examples of the weakness of relying on perception or thought to define existing? surely some philosophers, theologians, or scientists have come up with some kind of reasoning on this question..

gualbert 12.03.2008 10:59 PM

Proofs are for lawyers , cops and Agatha Christie.

uhler 12.03.2008 11:42 PM

i pinched myself and it hurt. so there's enough proof there.

GeneticKiss 12.03.2008 11:43 PM

But the pain could be part of the illusion...

alteredcourse 12.03.2008 11:45 PM

i suppose that since i have a pattern in my mind of the past, that i can predict what will logically follow ahead of me, that is how i trust that the sun will rise again and i will wait for the bus and go to work. that all this logic fits into the world outside of my mind and body, i must exist. other people doing other things around me also seem to show me that. that they definately dont always act so predictably, but according to their own patterns, means they are seperate from me yet act according to similar external logic as me, is also involved.


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