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mooger_fooger 08.15.2006 10:33 AM

Ludwig-less Diamond Sea
 
I dont think thurston had his ludwig phaser with him for diamond sea.
- holy-reberb!!

this came up in the Toronto show thread, thought I'd pose the question, on recent (Nurse and this tour if it's being played) is Thurston using his MXR Phase90 for Diamond Sea?
When they played it on the Nurse tour I didn't see any equipment that Chris Lawrence dosn't have listed...so I'm ASSUMING it was the MXR responsible for the infamous 'yayayayayaya'.....???:confused:

scott v 08.15.2006 01:49 PM

When was the Diamond Sea played during the Nurse Tour???

last time they played that was 1996... perhaps they've tried soundchecking with it...

Ludwig phaser is abit different and unique than an mxr phase 90 because i believe it can also mix other effects to mimick a flanger which is different than a straight phaser...

i don't even know if they own a ludwig phasetron anymore, both of band's were stolen in the great theft of 1999.

mooger_fooger 08.15.2006 01:55 PM

There's been some arguement about this Me and my roomate went to the Toronto show, both us and our bass player, remember seeign Diamond Sea...according to CLawrence, and a few others on here, we're wrong. Now I could accept that __I___ was having memory troubles (i smoke pot, it happens :) ) but I find it hard to belive we ALL had a Diamond Sea 'trip-that-never-happened' ESPECIALLY when our bass player has a good memory for trivial details (not that sweeing Diamond Sea live is trivial or anything)

scott v 08.15.2006 02:03 PM

Don't know what to say... i wasn't there... though i don't even think that thurston had a guitar in the tuning of EGDGED (for Diamond Sea) on the Nurse Tour.

may have to ask the band directly if they did indeed play the song.

mooger_fooger 08.15.2006 02:17 PM

I hadn't condsidered that route...I mean, I'm not a terribly proud person, so it's not a matter of personal pride no gloating rights (eg 'haha I saw DS live and you havm't) it's just a matter of trying to prove I'm not insane...that this did in fact happen...I don't know, I just can't see wasting the bands time with such a petty question, but IF they did in fact play it, Thurston was DEFINITLY using his Phase 90 (speed was turned down after playing Dude Ranch Nurse to 'Ludwig' it up a bit..)

Lipslikewindows 08.15.2006 02:22 PM

ECgGCF = new tuning I've been having a lot of fun with lately.

krastian 08.15.2006 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooger_fooger
There's been some arguement about this Me and my roomate went to the Toronto show, both us and our bass player, remember seeign Diamond Sea.

 

Chris Lawrence 08.16.2006 12:23 AM

i remember them talking about playing it again, but they haven't. i used to think it was an outlandish idea to dedicate that much time of the set to an 'old' song, but w/ the 15+ minute expressways etc they've been doing, i think a 2nd encore 'diamond sea' could work for sure.

fluxequalsrad 08.16.2006 12:01 PM

theres no way in shit that they played diamond sea in toronto on nurse tour. I was there. After dude ranch i think they played Drunken butterfly...

lemme check...

here's setlist!:::
I Love You Golden Blue
100%
Pattern Recognition
Unmade Bed
Skip Tracer
Mariah Carey
Stones
New Hampshire
Paper Cup Exit
Silver Rocket
Dude Ranch Nurse
Drunken Butterfly
--
Disconnection Notice
Sugar Kane
--
Expressway

holy-reverb!! 08.16.2006 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scott v
When was the Diamond Sea played during the Nurse Tour???

last time they played that was 1996... perhaps they've tried soundchecking with it...

Ludwig phaser is abit different and unique than an mxr phase 90 because i believe it can also mix other effects to mimick a flanger which is different than a straight phaser...

i don't even know if they own a ludwig phasetron anymore, both of band's were stolen in the great theft of 1999.


were they? I dont see them on the list.

mooger_fooger 08.16.2006 02:32 PM

Hmmm....this is beginning to become a hotly debated subject, both on here and at home, as I have began to accept the fact that maybe I'm crazy...but my bandmates are insisting I'm not, that we did in fact hear diamond sea...I'm not even sure which side of the arguement I'm on anymore, b/c I recall losing my voice after chanting "diamond sea, diamond sea.." and then erupting into a massive scream upon the opening notes....So.....we'll just drop the subject and assume I'm crazy...however.....there's still a Shadow Of a Doubt in my mind...

atari 2600 08.16.2006 02:37 PM

lay off the mota???

top 40 squeeze 08.16.2006 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooger_fooger
Hmmm....this is beginning to become a hotly debated subject, both on here and at home, as I have began to accept the fact that maybe I'm crazy...but my bandmates are insisting I'm not, that we did in fact hear diamond sea...I'm not even sure which side of the arguement I'm on anymore, b/c I recall losing my voice after chanting "diamond sea, diamond sea.." and then erupting into a massive scream upon the opening notes....So.....we'll just drop the subject and assume I'm crazy...however.....there's still a Shadow Of a Doubt in my mind...


Maybe at the time you just confused Diamond Sea and Expressway... they're kinda similar, a little, maybe... or something

mooger_fooger 08.16.2006 02:58 PM

Well....I was about to buy into my craziness when an email bolstered my hopes, my friend states 'Rich, I hoisted you up to crowd surf during the noise jam, trust me, you're not going crazy'....the debate continues...

fluxequalsrad 08.16.2006 08:25 PM

Expressway has a noise jam....so does alot of SY songs.

mooger_fooger 08.17.2006 09:34 AM

Sadly I've come to accept that no-one here was actually at the show in question, or if they were did not sit out the encore(s)...as they DID in fact play Diamond Sea that evening (and no, not RIGHT after Dude Ranch, I was just referencing to the use of the Phase 90)

max 08.17.2006 09:56 AM

I think Steve could save us all. Mr. Shelley let us know!

mooger_fooger 08.17.2006 10:03 AM

Steve could save us all...with his glorious tom rolls :)

holy-reverb!! 08.17.2006 11:56 AM

someone should post this question in the question thread.

doctor dan 08.17.2006 12:06 PM

i thaught that they dont use the ludwig anymore because it was a casualty of the tragic gig theft? i read or heard somewhere it was one of the casualties. Itd be quality if they started playing diamond sea again tho. itd be a shame if it was stolen- that thing was really fucking rare, its worth a few grand...


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